Since yesterday I used a lot of my VP to downvote comments. Most of them were just one sentence with a self vote. Some even just a "Hi" or "Hello".
I dont mind if people self vote their posts...I do it as well. I dont even mind if you upvote a really thoughtful comment you made for better visibility or because you have put some work into it as well.
I do mind however if any of those things get out of hand.
I used it and I will use it again. Since I have also financial interest for this tribe being a success and I ve put some of my money were my mouth is and bought SPORT tokens, I see abuse as an attack on my stake and I will do my best to defend it.
I dont blame you if you want to earn a lot of tokens...Hell I want to earn a lot of tokens myself.
I dont blame you if you want to sell some...Hell I want to sell some myself
I do blame you however if you just upvote yourself excessively especially if your post/comment has the only purpose so you have something to vote on.
Upvoting is taking from everyone, where downvoting is giving back to everyone
The rewards are still very generous and curation is well rewarded as well...there is no need to be a selfish dick.
I am very happy to see that a couple of people see it similar as myself and also are not afraid to us their free downvote and also their VP.
If you feel your downvote was not deserved feel free to talk to me. If you feel user x deserves some downvotes feel free to talk to me as well.
Abuse will always be a problem but as we are such a young community we should set the rules now what we see as acceptable and what is not.
I dont think anyone thinks it is fun to run around and police this community but it is required imo.
I have seen these, unfortunately I don't have any SPORT staked yet to be able to flag them and lower a possible payout. (can't afford to buy it, but am waiting for post payouts to do so)
It was in the middle of the night when I saw it while on my phone:/ Your post is exactly what I would have done and thank you for bringing this to peoples attention. Good job!
Yeah, how to avoid lazy bums who want to farm the F out everything good for their own selfish reasons? We cant imo
Flagging them seems the best option at the moment but we definitely need a flagging department around here.
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I think the flagging department is forming as we speak as I was not the only one downvoting and a couple of people care about that which is great.
I hope you will stake some and maybe be able to help out as well when you get your rewards.
Will be a community effort to counter the abuse
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That's great news!
Of course, I am grinding towards that goal. Trying to put out as much quality content as possible. Your an "MMA cat" right? Have a look if you find some time. Edit: you stopped by, thank you so much!
I'm out until evening time, gotta bunch of work at home. enjoy your day/night :)
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I think the flagging department is forming as we speak as I was not the only one downvoting and a couple of people care about that which is great. Afaik there is also a community account which hopefully bring down the hammer.
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I strongly agree with this step, because it really disturbs the ecosystem of the platform
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true
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Da hast Du mal sowas von Recht, Hammer them out of the community :-)
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We shall :-)
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Hast auch separaten Account? Hmmmm
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ging zu sehr in die normale Steempower.
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Kann ich nachvollziehen, hab andere Maßnahmen ergriffen, mal schauen wie die greifen.
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weniger voten?
ich muss sagen so richtig zufrieden bin ich mit der mehreren account lösung noch nicht
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hab dich mal auf den autovoter gesetzt Sport - hau rein, ich werd auch eher mehr hier posten als generell - mal schauen
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dank dir. kuriere noch mit hand zur Zeit.
mal sehen ob ich auch wieder auf auto gehe?
kann man jetzt tags in den autovoter nehmen?
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super danke.
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ich bleib bei meinen accounts erstmal und hab gewisse voting patterns "optimiert" - mal schauen, wie das funktioniert.
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It's good to see there are plenty of stakeholders unhappy with some of what they see here and are willing to do something about it.
I suspect that 1 'free' downvote may not be enough and think that mirroring the proposed 2.5 in Steems EIP might be required.
Also I think a daily report from a 'central' account on comments and maybe posts that are past upvote time but still in the payout window would be a good addition.
Then we can mostly focus on sports blogs as our content and dip into this report each day to find out who is in need of a little MC Hammer.
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That would be awesome because searching for them is a pain in the ass xD
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Du erhieltest aufgrund deiner LanaCharleenToken ein Upvote von @sebescen81 und von @lanacharleen
Vielen lieben Dank für euren Support. Der Account meiner Tochter wächst und gedeiht.
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Hopefully something will appear soon :)
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Yes a central account you could check would be very handy as looking for the right people to downvote is not really fun.
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No fun at all, I can't focus on creating content if I spend time searching for abuse.
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Usually I do not usually interact with other users, but I would not like that this project that makes itself felt as the principles of the steemit network, falls back into the hands of selfish people who only think of themselves, I have always said a little bit to little you can get to the top but with despair you only get exhaustion.
I emphasize these words, because I also consider that this is something important and delicate, for others it is like a mockery.
I do not have voting power, I'm still starting, but as far as I'm concerned, I've seen many accounts making very annoying comments that may involve any of us in the platform, I'm really expressing myself with all sense.
I've been ahead, some I have given a flag for being only comments with the word "hello" repeated times with different accounts, I do not know what they earn with this, but it is very offensive.
If it is to pleasure, I can create a post to have identified the accounts that improperly use this platform. I hope that by the end of this week I will have enough voting power to be able to collaborate with the community.
My most precious respects to you, and really thank you for this thoughtful publication, that said, because many must put more heart to achieve something beautiful.
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Der Hammer ist ein richtiger Schlegel geworden, find ich gut!
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manchmal muss das halt sein
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In essence I think it's the right thing to do because protecting the reward pool against these turds comments matters a lot, I think basically people just comment to get rewarded, I wonder how they'll fare when the Hf21 kicks in
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it got a lot better already but I think this is one reason why HF21 will be a good thing
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Excellent review @flipstar and I completely agree with you, doing business on spam comments is categorically not acceptable!
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we shall teach them to behave
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I don't like downvotes, but I think it's important to build a team, maybe create a discord server where you can explain the down vote, you have to be careful not to abuse too, indeed is there an official @sportstalk discord server?
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afaik there are plans going into the future
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good to know that there will be updates, if you work well, sportstalk can bring about all steemit
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I've done more downvoting here than I did in the past 2 years. I like what we have here and don't want to see the old problems resurface from the early days of steemit. The last thing we need is the wrong people having too much stake and abusing the system. This time we have a chance to prevent it.
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yeah me, too. Downvoted a whole lot the last days.
Good to see people joining and the people who got downvoted also admitting their mistakes
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Hopefully we can educate them into becoming better users. I'd rather not have to waste my VP downvoting people but I also don't wan't to end up in the same situation as steemit with powerful users abusing the system and not being able to touch them. At least here we can get ahead of it.
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Now that's what a Right whale should do you are doing right for the community and making this place a better one than ever before :)
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Action absolutely necessary before other users start playing the same game. We must immediately have the hard fist and proceed also with means like the ban, where this behavior was repetitive
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I think the ban is pretty dangerous and I have mixed feelings about that.
But many people are trying to build something here in a not donvotable way which is good to see
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A good initiative. You are right, rules must be set while the community is at its early stage.
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hopefully we will get it right this time :-)
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