Non-GumpyCompliant vote sellers are now to be used exclusively to profit from the reward pool!

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From now on Bid-bots that are not GumpyCompliant are to be used exclusively to profit from the reward pool (not post promotion). That's already about 95% of what they are being used for so it shouldn't make much of a difference to them!

All legit post promotion on quality content using non-compliant bots are at risk of being GrumpyFlagged!

What is GrumpyCompliance? : GrupyCompliance was annouced with a top post 14 days ago. and a reminder sent 7 days later. It is a new requirement for vote selling services to refuse and refund purchases for votes on posts that are more than 3.5 day old.

It is intended to fight the nothing at stake people from profiting from buying upvotes on low quality content at the last few hours.

1. Gives us more time to flag them (3.5 days > 12h).

2. Increase their risk with STEEM/SBD price fluctuation.

(normal post promoters are spending SBD that may not be worth much more than 1 USD when it pays out.

3. More at stake.

We will be able to wipe out 3.5 days worth of their reward sucking posts instead of only last 12h. (they post crap and buy votes all day long)

To know what voting bot to use when promoting legit content, refer to SteemBotTracker.com (by @yabapmatt) and only use those that have 3.5 day or less in the "Max Age" column.

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Sounds fair enough @grumpycat. Easy to fall into the greed of buying votes at the last moment though.
And thanks for the steembottracker info. Hadn't come across it yet and was using minnowbooster only so far. Now I know of more bots I can use.

I get that they are trying to curb last miniute post promotion but if the system wasnt designed for that but was designed to allow such promotion then what is the problem? Why do people need to be Grumpy compliant certainly not just because a whale says so. this is like creating centralization within steemit. Next whales will be making other Rule bots that punish people for whatever they want. Also what is the appeal process for mistakes when thy are made(or are we sol if that happens)? Just curious that this isue wasnt brought to the attention of all steemians and voted on(at least by the witnesses). Seriously this may not be a super big deal but the underlying issue of people being able to create and enforce laws that the community hasn't agreed upon is a HUGE issue. Correct me if i am wrong or misguided on any of my suppositions. @grumpycat im just trying to figure out what gave you the power/right to enact what equates to a law with this bot?

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You should really see how these people abuse bot votes at the eleventh hour:

https://steemit.com/steem/@grumpycat/sample-of-nothing-at-stake-peoples-empowered-on-6th-day-by-voting-bots

Interestingly, their timezone is in South Asia around 3-7 am US time zone where, bidding competition for bots are lower. They used big bot votes such as @upme, @buildawhale @appreatiator with total $6-$10 or more SBD. They also reinvest earned SBD and withdraw some regularly. Easiest spamming business based on ROI in the world.

Please go through these users post including this https://steemit.com/@banglabhai.

Reason behind 3.5 days compliance rule is that when they used low level contents (e.g. mostly copy and paste Youtube videos) for bot voting, they will be prone to SBD fluctuation and flagging for plagiarism. This will reduce the abuse of rewardpool. Witnesseses and STINC are slow to react, therefore, some whales have to take action. Their actions are self-servicing. If they don't work for good purposes of STEEM, their investment will go down and they have the largest stake.

Yeah and you're giving yourself 200 dollars for a bullshit sentence?

hahha dude

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Not wasting my votes on such crap :-)

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@grumpycat I wrote you a question on another post but dint get an answer. I really dont understand you. If you want to help you are supossed to be a rolemodel. Now another comment with more value than every posts I wrote together.Would be happy to get an answer for the community.

"@grumpycat I dont get it. I agree with your rules. But shouldnt you be a kind of a rolemodel. You are upvoting simple comments with big upvotes and taking much of the reward pool.That affect the reward pool. Even with one comment you got you over 185 dollar. I wrote much posts with much effort but I think all together are less worth than your comment I hope you will act like you teach people.

I have some ideas how you could help the steemit community. Check out post that dont earn much and support underrated posts. Steem rises and falls with the users."

Good luck getting an answer to this.

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I also do not understand: why can not I get 140 usd for a photo, and you can get 190 usd for a usual comment? Not fair...

I guess he has a lot of SP

@ekaterinka exactly

@grumpycat, I think I'm starting to see the light. Sorry for questioning you in an earlier post. Things are starting to make sense now. Go grumpycat go!

Are you fucking joking?

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It’s nice when that “aha” moment happens and you realize that grumpy knows what’s up! Kudos to you.

Are you fucking joking?

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Kind of makes one feel a little silly for complaining before they see the light, lol

I guess my 8% downvote for a brand new postnatal using one of these bots was just a warning ... it could have Brennan 100% downvote very easily

I'm coming for you @grumpycat

true.. somebody posting a stupid photo or wishing a happy new year gets 100z or 1000z of $$ its so stupid.. now i know why whales and their friends make somuch... Thank you for your support..

its batter not to flag someone you should build relationships on this platform so instead of giving flag just ignore the post you don't like
@grumpycat 👌👍

Your a piece of shit scammer g-cat, and you know it. Flag yourself!

Wow After taking a look at some of that information you provided it clarified much of the issue for me. I mostly didn't understand The value of such policing but it makes sense when you look at it as they are spamming. I don't use bots personally, but my hope is that if someone malevolent creates a similar apparatus and it IS unfair then the whales will do something about it (downvote to oblivion). Thanks for your feedback its a good premise but still not a fan of the Grumpy Cat Shit. Just look at your quality comment compared to its pure shit comment and how much rewards they are earning for it. They could at least help those who are being helpful. anyways thanks for your input

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The thing is, the system is really designed for much of anything. The bid bots are a creation of users of Steemit. There are basically no laws, so it's up to the users to decide what is bad or good for the long term of the platform. No one can really make laws, but the powerful can flex their muscles. Grumpycat sees this as being bad for the platform, so he's enforcing it with his muscle.

Everyone seems to conveniently overlook that the Terms of Service forbid bots:

17.1.3. Use any robot, spider, crawler, scraper or other automated means or interface not provided by us to access our Services or to extract data;

When you are using a upvote bot, you are effectively : Hiring ( Using ) a bot ( robot ), to upvote your post ( Accessing our Services ).

I think @grumpycat is taking a step in the right direction, and I hope more whales can step up to discourage the use of bots, outright. This is supposed to be a 'proof-of-brains' platform, exactly how does paying a fee to a robot fit into the equation? I see bots as the main obstacle that could ruin steem, many newcomers here see the botting on their first day, wonder why so many people abandon their accounts? Do you think steemit will become a household name like this?

Oh there is this great platform called steemit, all you have to do is write a great blog everyday, then pay a service 500 dollars to promote it for you - it's the future of Social Media!
Get Real.

Do you forget that most of the bots are provided by Steem witnesses? Is a huge business, for a vote people pay a lot of money, so from one side they get their full vote in SBD or Steem, and then since their vote is so heavy it will bring an extra 25% as curator.
Thing is people is so greedy that they will wait until last minute to bid, making their money worthless and at the same time of those who play by the rules.

Hola, estoy de acyerdo contigo. Pienso que estan creando un nuevo problema...
¿Asumen si hago que un post de calidad, no deberia comprar votos?
Es importante reglarlo, pero dichos bots podrain mantenerse bajo otro esquema de voto


Hi, I'm with you. I think you are creating a new problem ...
Do they assume if I make a quality post, I should not buy votes?
It is important to regulate it, but these bots could be maintained under another voting scheme

Ideally, you should not need to buy votes. A quality post should gain votes because it is a good quality post.

This is failing to happen specifically because of voting bots. If they were not in the equation, good quality posts would get upvoted naturally.

Youre right menn.
Give the Upvote... Steem for life

I am new to @steem and I had no idea about this. I just poored a lot of money into voting bots for the first time (evar) this week. I probably won't do it again because I lost my shirt thanks to @grumpycat. I get that greedy people hurt things, but stealing from unsuspecting people that are new and just trying to get started in the community...YOU ARE SCUM @grumpycat. Downvoting is already wrong in itself because you are literally taking money away from people.

@grumpycat If you're going to do something despicable like downvote people that hired voting bots, you should at least leave them with the amount they put in. That way, you're just taking away their profits. Instead, you're taking what they put in. You don't know where that money comes from. It could be really hard for them to make and you take it just by clicking your mouse. It's horrible.

You're not getting it I think. @grumpycat is not downvoting people at random here. He/she/it is downvoting those users who use the voting bots at the last hour to suck up upvotes.
Now I think it is fair enough punishment for them as most of these users are boosting their non qualitative posts very near to pay out and hence decreasing the voting power of the bots for genuine users.

That may be, but they're not very selective either; otherwise, more meaningful downvotes would be made. They may not be random, but it's not better than just throwing mud on a wall and seeing what sticks either.

You can't just hurt people and take the moral high ground thinking you help more than you hurt, so that's ok. Taking is taking. Stealing is stealing. The point of the downvote is to adjust the value of the post.

I worked for hours in the AZ heat to get nice sunset photos on my way overpriced camera that I really can't afford. I used the upvote bot to set a fair value for the photos and the time I put into taking them. Then @grumpycat comes and downvotes it to $5.

Yeah. Maybe they're not random, but they might as well be random. This is a ABSOLUTE ABUSE OF A DOWNVOTE. The point is to adjust and prevent abuse, but this account has taken it to the extreme and it's just abuse on the other end. There is no balance.

I still think it is not random. It is not only about the time, read the first few lines on the comment and you'll understand, I hope.

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I've read it. You'll have to spell it out for me. I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Let's say for the sake of argument it's not random, then it's arbitrary. @grumpycat arbitrarily chooses. Here are my points.

  1. @brandonfrye uses @jerrybanfield which is listed as a compliant voting bot. Not only is it compliant, but also @brandonfrye gets dinged within a day of posting. He did not abuse the voting bot nor did he use an abusive voting bot, so why? You should read @grumpycat's response. https://steemit.com/steemit/@brandonfrye/steemit-upvote-bots-still-profitable-or-waste-of-money
  2. @purepinay used @appreciator which is also one of the compliant voting bots. She also got dinged and took it like a champ anyway. Read @grumpycat's response https://steemit.com/steemit/@purepinay/thinking-about-tomorrow-today-reinvest-and-power-up

Even better...@grumpycat also uses @appreciator

So maybe it's not random. If it's not, then it's definitely based on an arbitrary set of rules that can be changed on a whim because they have nothing to do with actually compliant voting bots or 6th day voting. It's more like

Just because

Maybe I don't get it, but I'll say something about what everyone else (including @grumpycat) doesn't get. The purpose of downvotes is not to correct voting bots. Downvotes are to correct rewards. I think we all look at them wrong when it comes to @grumpycat. We think

Oh, whatever @grumpycat thinks is right

But in reality, the downvote is intended to adjust the payout to what the community thinks is appropriate. By completely negating a bot's influence we forget the see if we're actually adjusting the payout to what is appropriate or not. What ends up happening is a guy like me that wants to get what has coming to him uses a bot to adjust his payout to be proportionate to his effort. Here's an example:

I spend several hours in the sun to make sure no one gets my prime spot for taking a sunset photo. I sit and wait in the AZ heat and sun for hours with no shade with my camera that I really can't afford. I finally get a series of photos that I post on steem thinking people will appreciate with some upvotes. I notice that I'm not getting upvotes. Why? I have no followers and I have mostly no steem power compared to anyone else. I get a voting bot to help me out and push the vote up so more people will see it and so I can get paid for the hours I spent in the sun.

@grumpycat comes along and wipes it out down to $5. $5 for hours in the sun.

I get @grumpycat is trying to change the community and hit the voting bots, but voting bots and their management don't care. The only ones getting hurt are content creators. Voting bots will survive, but we suffer and die. It's not voting bots killing us. It's @grumpycat.

my brand new post wasn't downvoted ... If I got a comment that said don't use particulate bots I would listen. Especially if the self upvote of $40 was given to me as an upvote with a warning comment

Nice post!
Thanks for this!
Upvoted :D

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He's the hero Steemit needs right now, but not the one it deserves.

why do you say that? what do you mean not the one it deserves?

Chill, it's just a dialog from Batman.

LOL, just imagine it like this:

"When the bat-signals glow,
The Grumpy-Bat says NO."

Should that not be the Cat Signal?

"Why so serious?"

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hehe not sure if you are being funny as well, but to clarify it was a joke my friend ;) Cat signal for a Grumpy Cat, makes sense no?

Oh ho ... missed the reference lol. thanks yesaye. Dam marvel movies have me forgetting my batman lines :p

No probs dahlsom, we fall so that we can learn to pick ourselves up! ;)

we are full of shit... 💩

Post-promoting at the last minute is not usually beneficial. In my opinion though, it's a decentralized system and for as long as we don't hack into their algorhythm, we are free to observe how the system works and maximize the use of it. On other social media, people hire promoters to increase their 'likes' and shares. People create many dummy accounts and email adresses to help make videos viral for example. -But it's their freedom to do that. Celebrities, for example can pay people for more likes on yT as 'investment'. The only difference here is we use bots and they're accessible to any member following their rules.

Although other social media doesn’t have a reward mechanic built into it, you’re not taking away from other people by using it.

The main thing here is that, on a social network, content is king. If people quickly learn that they can game the system with terrible content plus bots it will - drive new users away as all they see is awful stuff riding high and draw away rewards from those who are actually putting the effort in.

It’s nice to think that the network is self-governing within its own mechanics, but if you take your hands off the wheel and start to drift off the road, you have to put them on it again and enforce a correction.

The issue is, (as I see it) that there is already a promotion mechanism within Steem. It exists so that when people come to actually advertise something, it burns STEEM for the good of everyone who holds it. The idea of post promotion was, yeah, you can pay to get eyes on your content, but it has to be good for you to recoup your cost and promoted content isn't at the expense of the users, it is to all of their benefit. The bid bot system pays someone for having their own content promoted. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

That's a good point. I think @fourfourfun is right saying "content is king". That's the beauty of it! You get paid for promoting your content with bid bots. -But it doesn't mean anyone can get away with posting a blank page (or random letters) and paying a robot to vote it for easy money. I would flag it if I see one. -A video won't go viral if there's just static in it. No matter how many promoters get paid. -There's still a natural law of society (normal human behavior) governing these. Gumpy, I think, just goes to the frontline, like the first line of defense for abuse. What I'm saying is it's a good project. It helps reduce abuse so that the reward pool won't be 'raped'. Maximizing the use of the system doesn't mean abusing it, you know because real people read posts. Content is king. - That's right.

Yes, keep it real and organic.

Bots are NOT human, and cannot really write or create.

Keep rockin,
@steemrockin

wow amazing.
yes agree with your opnion.
@qami

Great idea!

Hi~ goof post and interesting

While your heart might be in the right place and I certainly can't stop you, I do want to take the time to say, I do not appreciate the spirit or actions you are taking. I do support the idea that you are passionate on the platform. I feel this behavior is every bit as bad for my investment and the occassional shit post making money from voting bots, or your own upvotes on comments.
@whatsup

I feel that his intent may be in the right place as well but think that his efforts would be better directed at Steemit Inc and the Witnesses by encouraging a change to the in-built functionality of the platform itself. It should be able to self-police all users via an equitable rule set that applies to everyone, irrespective of status, SP amount, etc. That would be the ideal change on a holistic level.

People are self-policing right now, what sort of change are you proposing?

Self-policing is problematic because it's unwritten law. Newbies can get penalized for doing things that they don't necessarily know are wrong, and that seem to be legitimate and OK.

It's ridiculous to expect every new user to learn an unwritten set of rules that are enforced by various community whales and their bots.

While most automated down-voting is targeting larger accounts and is done with good intention, the better approach would be to set up community guidelines for what actions are and are not appropriate, and modify the code where possible to prevent inappropriate actions from taking place to begin with.

Yeah, a lot of stuff on this platform is not self-explanatory, so newbies can come in without knowing how stuff works and get burned. It can be a bit uninviting.

Be a normal human and don't try to shill bid your post and @grumpycat would go to sleep. He is only awake because a group of youtube shills have appeared on steemit producing shit content and gaming the reward pool. This is how the community reacts to shills.

I don't think you know what the word shill means.

Yup, I am sure you are the smarter of the two of us. That's why I understand and you don't get it.

As @weaselhouse noted in his response, self-policing is counter productive as it imposes a set of rules onto Steemit which the platform itself does not uphold or expect users to abide by.

For example, many users complain about self voting abuse but it's permitted by the platform. So until Steemit stops allowing it, then complaining about it is inconsequential. The founders themselves acknowledged its propensity as a feature to be abused in the Steem White Paper, where it's said: "...each individual voter has incentive to vote for themselves at the expense of the larger community goal." And here we are today, two years later and self voting is still an issue.

In reference to @grumpycat's initiative, it appears to be predicated upon a desire to root out users that engage in reward pool abuse, with an emphasis on targeting those users and voting services that seek/offer upvotes 3.5 days after a post is published. The problem with this is that Steemit itself allows upvotes on posts up to day 7. And there are some voting services that are manually operated and thus have backlogs - a user may pay for a vote on day 2 but not receive it until day 4 or 5, for example.

As the saying goes, "Don't hate the player, hate the game." There are no doubt users that play the game here, but they are doing so within the rules of the platform. So for wide reaching and constructive changes to be implemented, compliance initiatives such as what Grumpy Cat is engaging in are better enforced by being coded into future iterations of Steemit itself. In this manner, the updated rules of the game apply to all users equitably. And that requires buy in from Steemit Inc and the Witnesses. That is who Grumpy Cat and others should be engaging for reform.

I feel like witnesses are reluctant to speak their mind because steemit inc has such a huge stake that it would take just one click to vote any of them out . It's an intimidation game, even if not directly perceived as such.
I can't think of any other reason for witnesses to be so passive on these issues.

If there was ever a time for Witnesses to speak up, it's now.

Steem has broken out above its previous all time highs and momentum is bullish to kick off 2018. However, for that to be sustained, constructive improvements to this platform will have to be implemented. It is after all the prevailing proof of concept for the steem blockchain, though that may soon change with the introduction of smart media tokens.

I assume that is Grumpy Cat's intention, among others pursuing similar initiatives. Ultimately though, the reform has to come from the top and not from self policing efforts led by different whales with varying points of view on what users should and should not do. Their intent may be sound, but the execution isn't in the long run.

Hopefully SMTs and Communities will break up the ability for large stakeholders to create such drama.

Agreed and upvoted

I think I understand what you are trying to do, on the other hand do you think that mathematically this is a good thing to do? I mean you are doing this because the reward pool is being drained by people who are using up vote posts in a way that hurts others right? But the way I see it, I might be wrong , is X person invests 500 SBD on 5 upvote posts, now he gets a return on this which gives him say a 50 % profit that would make the amount he gets to be 750 SBD (about say $4,000.00 to just put a price on it) you then downvote these posts for the same amounts. So we have $4,000.00 the upvote bot gave which are lost and you also lose $4,000.00 without any curation reward (I am not sure if a downvote doesn't give curation rewards) but what I am getting at is that both of you lose, and I don't see how this helps the reward pool. I think you would do the community a better service by upvoting say 200 posts with a 3.75 SBD vote.
I always try things out, I tried 3 upvote posts, I lost on one and got a 20% profit on the other two, now I know upvote bots are here to stay, but personally I don't like them that much, of course that is my opinion I respect whatever everyone else thinks.

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The reward pool stays the same. If he downvotes $4,000 dollars worth, that isn't taken out of the reward pool, it just means $4,000 is divided equally among all the other posts. Think of upvotes more as shares of the reward pool than actual $. So, if the reward pool was $1,000,000 it will stay fixed. If every post and comment got downvoted to 0 except yours, you would get the full $1,000,000, no matter how small your upvote was.

cute!!

it's good!

Can someone explain to me, does it cost vote power to flag someone's post? If so, then I see no issue with anyone flagging posts for this reason..

Yes, and no curation reward.

I believe the Germans love @grumpycat more than David Hasselhoff.

Great move @grumpycat, it best serves the community.

I openly use bots and often check what other posts are in the list for an upvote and yes. Most of it is shit. I have a post I want to promote because I want engagement not because I want money. Steemit #openmic has also been over run with scammers as of late. Fight back genuine steemers! FIGHT baCK !!!!!!

Today is only my fourth day here but it doesn't seem like the bots should be allowed at all. It's an unfair advantage that steals money from the pool. The biggest problem is that it promotes shitty content into the trending list... Which drives away new users from the platform. Just my opinion from an outsider looking in perspective. Love the wealth of information on here though. Still in the research stages so I could be way off base.

Are bots for vote selling worse than this?
https://steemit.com/@checkthisout/comments
Check for grumpy's votes there. It is his other account.
Why is selling votes worse than this?

I dont think either practice should be acceptable in this community. If it where banned it would level out the playing field and we would have more active daily users. My opinion may change on the matter, still trying to figure it all out...

@stimialiti Difference: Upvoting is allowed, Bots are forbidden in the terms of service. Also every flag that grumpy makes is from their own investments, and they get no reward from flagging.

Did you check checkthisout/comments ?
You justify it by the flags he dished?
It may be the biggest case of comment farming in Steem's history.

Yes I DID, @stimialati , two separate issues, if you dont think bots are bad, well we are never going to agree on that.

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Thanks for explaining the difference.

I certainly couldn't afford much voting power. I'm still glad to join while it's new and I can grow in time. Need to improve my writing skill in the mean time. I'm ok with it not being a level playing field, just happy I got invited to play. Lol. Thanks again for your input.

It is not new.
I believe that not only it will never be 1/100 the size of Facebook, it will not even last to be 1/2 as old as Facebook is now.
It is unsustainable to store and make accessible all the spam that is here and will only continue to grow, without deleting it.
And deletions are problematic in a blockchain, for the witnesses and developers are considered herecy.
They prefer to try to maintain a lot of garbage than to get rid of some of the garbage.
Freedom and decentralization do not bode with efficiency, profitability and sustainability.
If you want to grow in time, use the bidbot I use to upvote your not voted comments once they reached a certain age of your choice lesser than 6 days and a few hours.
Trading Steem for SBD back and forth in the internal market through your wallet here is another way to grow, it does not use bidbots, but it is not guaranteed to succeed.
Most bidbots here I recommend to not use regardless of your wrong opinion about bidbots.
Paying to most bidbots is a risky business since most of them have a "no refunds" policy, and shit does happen a lot, it includes misses, owner use of own bidbot to upvote own, family's and collaborators' accounts which comes at the expense of the real customers, and more.

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seems like exactly what we have been looking for

Ridiculous! now the cat is eligible to destroy humans.

As I said before, a noble cause you have taken up here, @grumpycat. I wish you the best in your efforts to secure the reward pool for quality contributions.

Sounds like very good intentions but some negative consequences for all the new users of Steemit that might fall victim to a down vote.

Well .. Underatand .. Thanks

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So judging from this post...

-Appreciator
-Buildawhale
-Upme
-Postpromoter
-Upmyvote
-sneakyninja

Are all grumpycat complaint vote bots?

@grumpycat thank you for helping the bid bots be more for marketing a post than for just taking a profit out of the rewards pool and for using my GumpyCompliant bot! The majority of the bots used to upvote this post were not GumpyCompliant!

LOL. This is what I was wondering... Which ones ARE grumpy cat compliant?

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wonderful..

Nice one @loonatic
👍👍

thx😺

good job @grumpycat!!

I really appreciate your effort to balance Steemit @grumpycat.

We must bring balance for this community to continue rapidly expanding. I fully support this effort.

What about when you down vote posts that are not breaking this rule?, Then what? Do we keep making posts about your activity like I was force to do with this posts: https://steemit.com/steemit/@dineroconopcion/is-grumpycat-abusing-it-s-steempower

You never replies to comment. SteemCleaners are least let users know how to get the Downvote removed: Fix this and that. You are not even capable of doing that. Who runs this account?, a 9 year old?, asking the real questions that other are too afraid to ask :)

Guess what pal, those with the greatest stakes make the rules. Hence why @grumpycat is able to flag the shit out of you and you can't do anything about it except make a post whining about @grumpycat abusing his power. If you haven't noticed he has quite a bit invested in the platform and the platform is designed with those having the biggest stake wielding the biggest stick. If you don't like it call STINC Human Resources. Their number is 1-800-WE DONT GIVE A FUCK.

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@Dineroconopcion,

You are obviously tilted, I suggest you call it a day. I think you don't see the bigger picture that @grumpycat is in for. If you ask me (a simple minnow) yóu are the 9 year old who keeps whining because he got a downvote. Please stop being so self focussed.

Can't read?

hahahahahhaaahahahahahahah!!

Grumpy cat

Who puts out such poor articles that with 10,000+ youtube followers needs to purchase 1,000 sbd in upvotes? You can go back to youtube and take your followers with you. We don't need your kind shitting everywhere like a non house broken mutt.

How many bots are there that this is an issue? Back in the day I used randowhale but we’re talking about an SBD or to not thousands.

That’s a lot of bots! I might have to look into using the non spammy ones to get a bit more visibility and hopefully avoid any issues with other users. Thanks!

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thanks for nothing grumpy cat

IF YOU UPVOTE YOU GET A FREE REAL CAT WORTH 700000000 etherium

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@grumpycat now I get your idea...
Sorry that I somehow support this kind of voting bot, @sneaky-ninja, but I'm not using it for last minute up-votes. I used the bot to promote my post about Ethereum sharding technique right after I published it, and I still get and big downvote from you, I don't think I deserve that.
Now I get it and I promise that I will switch to other bots in the future when I need them. Could you please remove the downvote? That will mean a lot for me as a creater on Steemit.
Thanks and have a great day!

Not sure I follow, but I like it! God dammit I'm not smart enough for this platform.. #guppylife

Thank you! I say the same thing to myself every day. I'm not smart enough for this platform and I swear to God, I don't understand half of what's going on here.

A co-worked got me on here and now I can't stop. But it just all seems too good to be true, right?

I feel the same. On one hand I can't believe this thing is actually real and you can find everything on this platform, even porn lol, and on the other hand I'm frustrated because everyone else seems to know so much more and I barely understand what's going. Learning a little more every day though.

Lol.
Nice write up tho. A fair and easy campaign

Resteemed!
No war no peace!

Can we lobby steemit to block users who sell votes? If so, how do we do that?

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That's nice post, most people come to make money, but making a content post without having significant gains discourage you, I try to create original content and my posts are valued, u get my vote...
Guys u can follow me ill follow you back!

I dont have a problem if you're doing this with your own original content. If you're plagiarizing or trying to pull some shady bs, now we have a problem.

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@grumpyheart, I must confess I concur with your opinion. Keep up the good work

I think a deeper look at what goes on needs to be looked at and a more permanent solution to abuse is found.
I ask from been in the blind, how much is acceptable for an article put here?
I see this one earns 1.3K and it is a repost of information put up previous. should this post get the rewards or the previous two?
Maybe a cap on the amount a post can make and if more then one post per 24 hour , the max amount goes down for each post there after.

So bast post..😇 plz vot me

Grumpycat try looking at this for a while...
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I'm confused: So you're endorsing vote selling on posts <3.5 days old. What is your position on this steemit FAQ policy? > "What is considered spam or abuse?">"Selling or offering to buy votes/resteems/follows, or schemes that facilitate this."

I think it's wonderful

I know I’m not the only one. I have no idea what’s going on in this post. It’s trending so I checked it out.

@din you are correct. I also have no clue. Rule of thumb everywhere else in the world seems to be, if it sounds like bs and talks trash about someone doing something, they’re probably doing the same. But again, I don’t have any clue what’s going on with this. I just like grumpy cats.

@grumpycat He's the hero Steemit needs right now, but not the one it deserves.

This is the best post on Steemit upvote me.

like your entry! Hope it can win ;) Btw, my upvote doesn't worth anything 'cuz I'm a newbie here, but I'm posting this comment as a support. If you want, you can check my introduction post and leave me some feedback. And yeah, I'm 20 :) PEACE!

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like your entry! Hope it can win ;) Btw, my upvote doesn't worth anything 'cuz I'm a newbie here, but I'm posting this comment as a support. If you want, you can check my introduction post and leave me some feedback. And yeah, I'm 20 :) PEACE!

Is the best. Good post.
I like it.

wow the cute cat i really like the cat

very impression your post, I really like, I want to like you what is its secret?

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This a very interesting article. Thank you for sharing

totally in accordance with his argument

hmm that is so good post
thank you very much

I love grumpy cat. There should be a grumpycat coin same like dogecoin.

And thanks for the steembottracker info. Hadn't come across it yet and was using minnowbooster only so far. Now I know of more bots I can use.

thank for the bot :)

thank you for information, to me as to the novice it very useful, I put the vote for you.Throw on anymore such information to me it very interestingly)

This is my first week on Steemit. The more posts I read, the greater the learning curve appears to be. I love it.

Well done, this is beautiful

I still don't understand much about this buying votes... but I'm willing to learn from this people sharing their ideas and opinions... Thanks!

Good stuff, people gaming the system cheapens the experience for everyone.

Follow me. #notabot

okay, a bit confused here: in your post you refer to GumpyCompliant, GrupyCompliance, and GrumpyCompliance? Are they all the same thing - just that the GrumpyCat doesn't type well without opposable thumbs? Also interesting to note that no one has mentioned that the Grumpycat name and image are both trademarked??

What ever happened to grumpy coins? I recognize that cat!

Cool

i like your post and follow you, i hope you will do same @grumpycat

go get laid by a grumpy mule you twat

A mule train? That won't add many miles but she may enjoy it.

Good profil grumpy

wow .... !! cool, which I definitely like

Just bought 100 k. follow for follow : D

I think if you get wind of this from the wrong direction it is very easy to see @grumpycat as the bad guy, glad I saw this post now and understand clearly what your intentions are.

Thank you for your hard work.

Q honda

gran post amigo.

Hey @grumpycat, since you're fighting the good fight, I made this artwork dedicated to you to spread your message!
Let's make Steemit great again.

Excellent post, I follow you.

Good

Good

The most lol part of this is that the rounds are so over bid most the time they are negative ROI

Great way to protect authors as well!
This was one of the things that actualy bothered me! You guys are doing amazing job.
Keep it up!
Resteemed!

it seems fair, so that in this way everyone has the same benefit or possibilities

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well, I suppose this is needed to discourage those who tend to abuse the system

Grumpy cat wins!

Good

great keep it up #grumpycat we can expect anything from you :P

At some point it will no longer be profitable

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Very well done and thanksvto inform steemit community about this @grumpycat

Keep this up @grumpycat

Good evening, you may not read my comment, but I am particularly new to this community and I think that the beginning that can be caused is that those who have more power to buy votes will be the only ones who have great profits and I consider it disloyal to the We are starting in the big Steemit family, there is always someone who wants to put the game in their favor who wants benefits for him or only for a group, what a serious thing, one trying to raise and others trying not to raise, I consider that if the rules are not written they can not penalize anyone then because they do not do the Steemit manual and so you know what to expect, it's my humble comment

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