I just though of this yesturday. They seem to be afraid of programming, and getting all the UI's to agree. What if we had an advertising model that ran like focus groups?
What if we convinced small businesses and companies, to purchase temporary Steempower, and used their upvotes to get the community to engage with their upcoming product development?
Say if a fashion company, wants some ideas about their brand. They could spend $300 an hour on consultants, or drop $300 on 1 weeks delegation, and provide high powered upvotes, for those who give them the best feed back.
Use the corporate advertising model, to fund paid reviews through high-powered upvotes. They would do what there are doing, but have an official Steem account.
Say if their upvotes are worth $1 each. If someone gives them a good idea, they could provide them with a full upvote. If someone just participates, they could be generous enough to give them a 10% upvote.
I'm a firm believer that the future of advertising can incorporate self-feedback loops to mutual benefit. We no longer need Static advertising. Our experience could be interactive and community driven.
Steem could be a platform, where advertising runs like interactive focus groups. There post get trending, but many people are paid along the way for helping them out.
They could also have a Steem market to sell some of their products, and offer discounts to everyone who participated, and resteemed their post. This could go a great ways to divert our dependency on investors, and boost the Steem price.
It gives the community opportunities to earn high powered upvotes, by helping companies make some decisions. It could be an interesting experience for all sides. I would love to hear your ideas on this. What would you include in this model?
@remotediscovery,
DELETE this comment immediately!!! Those are ALL my ideas! :-)
My initial comments still stand, however. Steemit would only be valuable to companies if it operated as it was designed to operate. All the "cheating mechanisms," would skew results making them worse than worthless ... false intelligence is worse than no intelligence. Companies need ACCURATE feedback.
There's a LOT of ways Steemit could generate TREMENDOUS WEALTH for its users ... but it has to run a clean game ... or all that potential becomes meaningless.
The cheating is TOXIC to institutions. They will not sully themselves with our disrepute (they create enough problems for themselves without dealing with ours as well).
You are a smart fellow. Perhaps we both ought to be consultants for the company! Nice to make your acquaintance. I've followed.
BTW ... the next time you have a brainstorm ... don't put it in the comments section ... DM me! :-)
@timcliff ... HERE, is a guy who's thinking.
Perhaps what the blockchain needs is to assemble a braintrust of people ... who can't code to offer up some non-coding solutions. To a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. There's no "diversity of thought" ... it's all tech-heads. Not every problem has a solution that can be reduced to an algorithm.
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When brainstorming, they need a new way of looking at things, everything in nature can be broken down into classifications. Everything has its own frequency. You observe the dynamics, and mix things up. You got to start with the abstract first, before you say it's not possible. How do you direct message people on here?
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@remotediscovery,
You have to join a Discord Channel.
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$300 = 420 Steem
420 Steem = 0.02 STU upvote for 100% (0.01 after 90% :))
meaning, daily 0.2 STU, weekly 1.4 STU of upvotes without 25% curation and 50% of SP -.-
if my math is not failing me. I hope it does but..
for 1 STU upvote you need 28.000,00 SP
these could be usable on specific dapps but not in the main sites.
Say steemhunt (clone of producthunt) could benefit from this approach, has a targeted audience, has a front-page so why not.
where will that fashion ad will be displayed? near my logo design post? :(
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I'm talking about spending $300 on 1 weeks Steempower delegation. If they go to minnowbooster.net, and they spend $300 at the standard 15.6 Apr, they will get 50000 Steempower for one week.
If they prepare a well designed focus group, they can reward the community with a $2.29 Steem Upvote at full power, or $0.29 at 10%. This will incentive's a ton of minnows, to join their debates and help them make important product decisions.
One consultant at $300 an hour, vs getting a great debate going with hundreds of comments.
For corporations, a dirt cheap focus group would cost them $1500, so if they spent $1500 on Steempower, they could get 250000 Steem for a week, and reward $11.42 full upvotes.
The whales might not bother, but the minnows would flock to their online focus groups!
Just look at Tim's example. Tim's been rewarding 0.08 and 0.15 Steem upvotes for members of this debate. Look at the feedback in these comments. If Tim got one hour from a consultant, do you think he would get pages and pages of useful ideas, for improving advertising on the Steem platform?
We got like 30 or 50 people bouncing ideas off each other. This could work on a massive scale, and they could use a professional moderator to Steer the debate. This is Steem's hidden potential. No other platform, that I know off, could implement this on a wide scale. They NEED to look into this! This idea wouldn't require a hardfork or any programming changes. Maybe just create a new tag, so people know where to find the corporate focus groups.
I'm just using https://steemnow.com/upvotecalc.html
Steem has significant edge. Hardly anyone is trolling these debates. Advertisers don't want to waste time on amateur forums, with a bunch of losers who post PEPE the frog memes all day. They would love the maturity of the Steem community. Thanks to downvotes punishments, there is actually civil debates here.
I think Steem has one of the most mature online communities on the planet. Yes maybe their a few idiots, but the majority of us, aren't here to Troll one another, we see this as an investment. It's hard to find the same high-quality feedback anywhere else.
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This is not the hidden potential, this is the wasted potential.
I missed my 0.08 even tho I wasn't here for that, I can see stellabelle name right under this box, whose reputation is 76 and has already a $1.66 vote value, I don't think she's here for that 0.08 either :|
I'm just here because 2nd top witness proposing something which I don't agree so I'm sharing my opinions.
Sorry for my miscalculation, and misunderstanding. I didn't think it was just for one week.
As you said it's not hard to achieve but we are busy with circle-jerking, self-voting. debating about how should we call promotional coughbidbot services.
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I get that, but if it's all we talk about, will turn new users off. There is always going to be insiders on any platform. If we get the corporations in here first, then we will begin to raise some of our standards. Will have something positive to focus on. And they will be less circle jerking in the focus groups.
I'm not so worried about changing the Steem system, I just want to make it bigger, and boost the value of Steem. I think focus group advertising, would give people something interesting to do, and many minnows would find a new revenue source.
We got to stop infighting, because it spreads FUD and looks bad to investors. I want to boost the positive opportunities first, and worry less about some of the crap, that is always going to exist. They can catch more flies with honey, than vinegar.
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This is a great idea and I will work on it. My community @rutablockchain has everything necessary to develop it locally in Venezuela and we could expand it. I'll get intense with this: D thank you
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Alot of people are knocking Steem. The metrics might be messed up, but we got some of the best users on the planet. Even if the rewards aren't fair, the Steem users make this an amazing platform. We need to stop always complaining about Bots, and "Cheaters Paradise", and focus on bringing new money into the system. Some bad things won't change, so instead of giving up, we can boost the positive opportunities.
What I love about corperate focus groups. They money would go to the grassroots. The minnows would be chasing the $2 or $10 upvotes, and the whales would focus on their own posts.
Corperatate focus groups, would support the minnows first, and the grassroots. It would reduce the income inequality, and boost the price of Steem. Steem would shift towards an economy based upon disposable income.
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