Gay Male Friendship

in advice •  8 years ago  (edited)

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I am a gay 21 year old and I have a gay 21 year old best friend who I love dearly. the relationship is in that weird blurred space of not being sexual but cuddling and I cycle between viewing him like a little brother, a parent, an older brother, a friend, and a husband. It's now in a place where (not that stereotypes matter but just background information - I'm femme and typically bottom, he's less femme and always tops. we often assume those roles as well in friendship and in cuddling) we're fighting a lot. I am sensitive and find him to be cruel and uncaring sometimes and not following through on the commitment to our friendship. He says I am possessive and expect way more out of him than he can give me. we have been fighting so much for the past month and I just can't get through to this person anymore. He's coming over in 4 hours and we're going to talk. I need him to know how badly it hurts when he dismisses me and I want to say like yeah we're more than friends but not dating or sexual. Like literally no sexual thing has ever happened so we're very clear on that. I think there's a little bit of a power balance issue because I'm attracted to him and I don't know if/think he's attracted to me. I really cant lose him and I'm going through a hard time where I need his support more than ever, but when I;m needy he gets nasty and pulls away more and I get more panicked about being alone and abandoned. I know I demand too much and I really want to be better, but I cant help feeling trapped right now between either being given the cold shoulder and treated insensitively when I don't say anything, versus having him get mad and view me as a chore and be exasperated all the time. We have so much fun together and neither of us lives in the same state as our parents and as two young single gay men I think having this kind of intimacy is normal. I hate to feel powerless and like I'm too attached but my life has really emptied of people recently and I just need someone, but he's not understanding that. He thinks me telling him that I'm upset is me being critical and making him feel bad, but really I'm just trying to get closer. If two people care about each other then why cant we connect? I think its because his annoyance and need to win overpowers how much he cares about me. It's more complicated than that, but anyway I'm looking for advice in the coming hours: is there anything I can do if he legitimately doesn't care about me being in his life? It feels like I'm trapped and its going to hurt with him or without him. Any tips for the talk we have when he comes over? Im very skilled in like therapy and DBT etc so I know all the basics but what's something I may not be seeing clearly?

PS feel free to answer even if you're not gay. personal experience in conflict resolution is universal sometimes.

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I don't mean to disrespect your emotional trumoil or anything, but it reminded me of some relationships I had, so basically, for whatever that means, it's kind of normal. Which I think is a good thing.

I'm straight and in a similar situation with a girl who used to be my best friend. The main difference about our relationship was that we would sleep together regularly. Shit hit the fan when I started dating a girl she didn't like. My bestfriend thought that I was looking her over as girlfriend material but the truth is that I don't take my romantic relationships seriously, not nearly as seriously as I took my relationship with her. I gave her all of the 'girlfriend benefits' and more, much more than I ever gave any girlfriend, but it reached a point where her toxicity about my girlfriend was too much and I had to choose. I chose my girlfriend and lost my best-friend.

The best advice I can give you; accept him as he is. He's going to fuck up for sure and make you feel terrible sometimes but that's the price that you pay for the good times. You have to learn not to take shit seriously. I'm sure that he loves you in his own way. As long as he's not being intentionally abusive then you'll have to either accept that he is who he is or cut him off completely. Your choice.

really good advice!
how should I approach this now though? 3 hours he's coming over to talk. he has been mad and mean all day and I know he doesn't care as much as I do. Honestly sometimes I think It would be healthiest for me to get over him and move forward but I really am codependent on him a lot.

Maybe you should give up the cookie. It may not solve your problems but it seems like there's a lot of sexual tension between you two. Once it's dissipated then you'll know if he's worth pursuing further. Cuddling with someone you want to bang and not banging can turn anyone into a grouch. I'm speaking from experience.
Full disclosure: sex is my answer to every relationship problem so take my advice with a grain of salt...and some lube.

it went really well.....
he heard me, I had to calm him down a bunch but it ended up being really helpful. he still doesn't like me as more than a friend though so that sucks a lot but ill have to get over it.

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