Anarchy Has Gone Viral - Jeff Berwick at Anarchaportugal

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Jeff Berwick delivers his keynote talk at Anarchaportugal, July 19-20, Porto, Portugal. The first international fork of Anarchapulco. Topics include: the early days of Anarchast and Anarchapulco, freedom in our lifetime, great to see forks of Anarchapulco, may there be many more, the internet undermining state control, propaganda and fake news, the battle for mind share, the great awakening, the promise of cryptocurrencies, Anarchapulco 2019 goes completely wild!

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What real happened that Christmas day.

Jeff a very interesting video, you mentioned a internet kill switch the elite have spoken about do you think they would ever get that desperate and if so what would happen to all are crypto currency’s? Thanks mike

If they do pull the kill switch and since we have so many wireless devices, we would be communicating through a peer to peer network. And that would be a true de-centralized network.

Hopefully that would work, thanks for your reply cheers mike

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that's not that simple, we would need to implement/improve (to be able to scale for that many devices) the meshnet protocols (something like cjdns) and build the infrastructure first

This idea was talked about a few years ago. Bezantine was one of a project name that I remember. Also, if Al Gore did not invent the internet for us /S, we (the free market) would have come up with something a lot better and de-centralized, which is why they came out and gave us the internet all of a sudden.

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Byzantium seems to use OLSR. OLSR and BATMAN aren't built to scale, they max at a few hundred nodes per network bc each and every of those nodes needs to store the whole topology of the network and also they need to flood the whole network with reoccurring pings to update the topology and signal liveness.

And they aren't zero-config, you need an "institution" to generate and manage addresses of all the nodes, increasing the maintenance cost. Cjdns just generates a new random address at the initial startup of a node.

Cjdns tried another approach by using DHT routing, that way each node just needs to communicate to and store just a few neighbors. If a node needs more infos it asks its neighbors. But this approach was buggy, maybe it was just a bug in the implementation and not a systemic problem, no one knows. Then they switched to a "supernodes" approach, each SN stores the whole topology of the net, if a node needs to know the route to an other node it asks a SN, there is a "master" SN, all the other SNs connect directly or indirectly to that master SN, they download all the data from the master SN, but that's obviously a lot more centralized than the DHT approach.

Im just saying that we need a lot more investment into that field, just killing the internet wouldn't magically spawn a functioning meshnet (able to replace the internet and handle millions of nodes) in no time.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation.
The internet consists of a lot of individual hardware. So even if they turned off the internet wouldn't there be a way to reconnect some of the network hardware that is more localized together? A state or a local community, for example, may be able to gather all of this existing local equipment and gave itself a local internet and eventually make a connection to the next local area network and eventually get a new and perhaps a more decentralized internet.
I'm just saying, if they turn it off, we'll find a way to turn it back on with all of that existing hardware and all. Not easy I'm sure but doable.

I wasn't speaking about hardware, that's the "easy" part. Sorry, if my last post was too abstract. You need software ("router") that "knows" the path from your device to the destination device, so you can send a package and it gets routed to the desired device. If you want that to be decentralized it's very hard to do.

I think without changing the routing software we would end up where we are right now as it would need to be controlled by a centralized institution of some kind.


Also im not speaking about websites such as facebook, those are running on the internet. Im referring to the internet itself.

I understand that you are talking about the internet itself. How would they implement a kill switch? A true kill switch in my opinion would be to physically destroy all of the hardware. And I don't see that happening without of sort of huge magnetic pulse, and that would destroy everything else as well. Shy of that we as a people are resourceful enough that it would come back up as most likely a different network. And if it's a true free market that rebuilds it, it will end up being a better network structure. That is where we were heading before Al Gore forced the "internet" down our throats.

Well, you need a router with internet service. Things won't be able to just go straight P2P. 5G might bring us close.

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How would 5G do that? It's still built upon old centralized internet protocols.

I am your post upvote@reasteemed done

great steemit promo in the middle of it :D!

You've got some special insight it seems. Calling the collapse and btc popping up so shortly afterwards must be interesting to look back on.

when is dollar vigilante going to open a bank - so that we can deposit our gains of cryto, gold, silver in a safe , trustable account - when the inevitable comes?

Hopefully never. That would send us back in the direction of centralizing control.

Thanks for your support, I truly appriciate it (irony)... an anarchist that kidnapped a child with the use of the coersive state in Germany, how does that work???