The workers already do all the work, why don't we get all the money?
It's not like money makes widgets, nor loads them on the trucks.
Why do we insist on following the rules of the very people most benefiting under those rules?
It's not like it is an original thought, or anything.
We've known for a long time that something just isn't right with crapitalism.
You do know that working and consuming is not all there is to life?
Don't ya?
Why don't mothers get paid for raising the kids?
Don't they deserve a share of whatever they want for turning out good kids?
Why is it that you agree to trade your labor for less than a tenth of what it is worth?
Because crapitalism is our lord and savior?
Really?
You do know that your 'education' was a well engineered planned procedure?
You do realize that the folks controlling things have been doing it for a very long time, yes?
How long has it been known that teaching the slaves to read is bad for longevity in a slave economy?
Look around, literacy is at an all time high.
The greatest library known to man is in your hands.
It's past time for you to look around and start researching options.
Rise up, while you still can.
Learn what they have kept from you.
Yea you are right. Because capitalism is our lord and will remain our lord. This questions is funny that why can not mothers get their own share for raising thier children but i guess i believe it is the right of the children to pay her back later in the future after he or she has grown up. This line also cut my attention that you said "Rise up, while you still can.
Learn what they have kept from you."
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Keep working, stop paying, and mom's across the world can have whatever they want.
The workers, too.
Instead of the profits going to the few, they get spread out among us all.
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I can't tell you how much I agree with this post. The pie was made big enough for everyone, but if we don't collectively demand our fair share, we get crumbs.
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If we continue following these rules we will continue being slaves to an economy built on wars.
Nobody is white knighting us some freedom, we got to take it ourselves.
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The workers already do all the work, why don't we get all the money?
It's not like money makes widgets, nor loads them on the trucks.
nor do the workers buy the trucks, or the machines to make widgets, or pay for th lectricity ro run the machines, or buy the stok to make the widgets..
That seems very unfair to the guy who is investing in all that machinery, stock and transport, with no extra reward for his risk.
So wouldn't 'the capitalist lords and masters' ensure that didnt happen..?
because of capitalism, maybe...?
The two statements are contradictory to each other.
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salaries and individual value work against the system because fundamentally all humans are born equal (inalienable birthright). That is a flaw embedded in monetarism, which wants to quantify and monetize everything.
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All humans are born equal.
Outcomes are not equal, becuase meritocrcay and hierarchies are real, and endemic throughout the natural world.
I see us as part of nature, as natural beings, and do try not to fight it.
We are part of nature, why would be any different then every other living vertebrae animal?
Money finds value, (in a free market) nothing more. It doesn't quantify.
The price discovery mechanism is the most sensitive, dynamic, sophisticated model of discovering value, known to man.
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And if the workers that did those things for the crapitalusts decided to end their enslavement by sharing?
Just lop that layer of parasites off on any given tuesday?
The truck driver drives because the truck maker made, the loader loaded, and the crapitalust got a productive job rather than leach off the backs of those doing the work.
Supervisors will continue supervising, somebody has to herd the newbs, but instead of being in that position by birth, luck, or connivance they will be elected by the general consent of those being supervised.
By and large they have.
The vast majority of 'the best educated soldiers in world history' couldnt explain the fed, or a constitutional republic if their lives depended on it, but they fight for 'god', gold, oil, and drugs, anyway, huh?
They think that the tiny fraction of history that they have been fed is all there is, and worse, they will fight to deny the reality i point out.
We've been having this discussion for more than a year, you ready to accept the truth of my words, yet?
You only get things for free if you are the product being sold,...
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...do you have experience in any commerce/business, btw?
Or is this just all theoretical for you?
they do share - its called a wage.
there is no enslavment - (except in your inaccurate perception of the world) - it's a free will contract between to consenting parties.
as opposed to the ukraine in the 1920's where you got shot by the communist party if you kept a grain single of wheat from your own production!
(quite literally. It was a capital offense).
Are ready to accept you that you are suffering from a mental delusion and I'm trying to help..?
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Lol, said the kool aid drinker.
Ive sourced my purview, here, let me do it, again.
You are still pushing revisionment definitions.
And yes, ive managed a labor contracting company for more than 25 years, if that is important to you.
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...not important to me, but individuals experience, matters.
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How would you do any of the work without people with money investing first, btw?
If the government were to do it, then taxation is theft and the infrastructure would then be a product of theft.
You would be working with tools that were the spoils of theft.
Hardly moral....
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Here is your clue.
The miner mines because the refiner refines because the manufacturer manufactures because the delivery guy distributes, all symbiotically because it improves the standard of living of all workers.
If we all had to grow our own food, and weave our own cloth, we wouldnt have much time to mindlessly meld with the flashylight boxes.
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Your comment doesn't answer my comment..
...because it can only be answered with 'yes, at some point we must use theft as a tool to implement my political ideology'. There.
So - if you disagree with the the principle of capitalism so much, on the most fundamental, and guttural level, then why do you then utilize the very products of this evil mechanism, that you hate so much?
It's intellectually dishonest to do so.
(Or does it fall into the islamic logic of taqiya? If so, then your ethics are dishonest).
To utilize the very system you hate, to your own benefit - is not honest.It's hypocritical.
(if a moral compass has any bearings in your political beliefs).
Computer/phone
Internet.
electircity.
Complaining about meat eaters, while eating a burger...
have you noticed that you have no answers, only other comments, to my direct questions?
Does this tell you something?
Just... maybe?
I'll start from the beginning, if you like....
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No, that is what you need it to say to maintain coherency in your delusion.
How many times do i have to restate that the bums will be free to exist, we only want willing workers building stuff?
You conflate mass production with an accounting scheme designed to do exactly what it has done.
Make the rich richer on the labor of the poor.
I have proposed a way to avoid the wealth concentration of crapitalism while maintaining the benefits of the division of labor.
Seems that you would support such an endeavor, but you remain too enamored with the paradigm foisted upon you as a child and never rationally contradicted until you met me.
Just as muslims will never defame allah, so too are you unable to brwak your teaining.
You are an unknowing victim of mind control.
Until you come to grips with this fact, there is little hope for your recovery, and eventual attonement.
IF i can deliver, would you sabotage me out of spite?
As long as the workers keep working, the accountants and tax lawyers could jump off a cliff and nobody would notice.
I can only lead you to the knowledge, i cant make you read it, nor accept it as true.
You have to leave your indoctrination behind.
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I have bookmarked the anarchylibrary link... interesting
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Yes, a lifetime isnt enough to read all that is there.
Tell your friends.
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