Sorry, I worded that poorly. I don't get the impression that you're arrogant, I was just referring to the concept of thinking your way is the only way is arrogant.
I'm also not uncomfortable with my own statements. They line up perfectly with how I view the world, which is why I think the way I do.
You're right about the definition of murder, and as I intended to allude to murder is wrong by definition. If it's deemed just cause, then it's not called murder. As I said though, self defense is the easy one that we can easily agree on. What about the police shooting a fleeing suspect or shooting someone trespassing on your property? I would say both of those should be considered murder. Am I indefensibly wrong? Are the people who disagree with me indefensibly wrong? Abortion is another good one I think. Is it moral to force a woman to carry and birth a baby? Is it moral to prevent a fetus from being born? There are things we can almost all agree are bad, but most morals are a matter of opinion. I'd also say things that are always a crime aren't always immoral. We can probably agree that there are plenty of laws that only serve to restrict and suppress that should have never been written down.
I would agree slavery is one of those conditions, but I'd also say the government is the only thing preventing slavery in certain areas in situations. Without a federal governing body each smaller community will do as they wish, and I would put money on some of those communities allowing actual slavery. So while you might find your own safe an happy place, many others will find themselves in that very hell.
Humans evolved, physically and culturally, to work in communities. You have to go pretty far out of your way to truly take on the world alone. I think there should be somewhere for people to go if they want to drop out of society and live a truly free life on their own strength, but I don't think government should be dismantled as a whole.
The government doesn't assault me. I pay taxes like I would pay for any other service. By staying a part of society, I agree to carry the burden of cost to support the services that I want from my government. If I don't like a particular service, I speak and vote accordingly. I liment your lack of options to find your own utopia, but I'm quite happy with my current situation. I'm not a slave, as I still receive money that I can do with as I please. The amount I get paid is based on the assumption that I have to pay taxes. If I didn't pay taxes, the company I work for would almost certainly take advantage of that and pay me less. If I change my mind about my situation, I have the freedom to leave this society, even if it's just floating on a boat in the ocean.
I think we agree pretty soundly on the idea of education. Indoctrination is unavoidable. Be it from government, teachers, parents or any form of authority, there will always be someone telling you what to think. We have to get better at looking deeper into issues and making informed decisions.
I've weighed my options and chose the path that seems optimal. I can change that path at any time I feel is necessary. That is my freedom.
Sadly there are many points I would have to disagree with. Your statement do not reflect a organized social group of human beings, but a free for all. You can by your own admissions recognize immoral behavior, but you have no moral character or moral fortitude and refuse to support moral behavior.
"What about the police shooting a fleeing suspect or shooting someone trespassing on your property? I would say both of those should be considered murder."
The fact is that it is not considered murder and yet you knowingly are in support of a system that has legalized murder. As a human being you get to believe whatever you want. I would however suggest to you that the fact that you will suffer the consequences of that support of murder is proof that you do not have a choice about being responsible.
That actually makes you a knowing accomplice to murder, which by the way in much of the western world is punishable by death. Thus the belief that it is OK to support murder is in direct contradiction with your knowledge that murder is wrong.
The above facts about what you have said is what makes below statement either a lie, or the statement of a very confused individual and at the very least morally ill person.
"I'm also not uncomfortable with my own statements. They line up perfectly with how I view the world, which is why I think the way I do."
There is no way a intelligent person cannot know that the above statements can only be from either a victim of Stockholmes syndrome or from someone who is morally depraved.
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If you wish to live in a commune then sure, have at it. Pretty sure that's by and large an option to you. But a country wide removal of government would be a free for all. Millions of people can not organize themselves.
In my country, Canada, the police are not allowed to shoot people, shooting someone for trespassing is illegal, and the death penalty is completely abolished. My conscience is clear in that regard, but where my government has failed I support politicians that I trust to change the country for the better. I get the impression you don't trust any politician, but there are those with a record that I can get behind to represent me.
If you want your way of doing things, join or create a commune. En masse, new governments would ultimately form, many of them more oppressive than you experience now. You can't change human nature, and human nature consists of followers and leaders. Followers will always gather around a leader, making true anarchy unsustainable.
So if you want to damn some of your fellow man to actual slavery and death so that you don't have to pay taxes or adhere to laws, make no mistake that you lack any morals of value. I do not share your morals in that regard, and I feel the better man for it.
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