RE: Compulsory Schooling, Where Self-Confidence and Independent Success are Cardinal Sins (A brief reflection from my time as a teacher).

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Compulsory Schooling, Where Self-Confidence and Independent Success are Cardinal Sins (A brief reflection from my time as a teacher).

in anarchy •  6 years ago  (edited)

It's not as simple as the government merely stealing from you. That's the difference. It's not so much that the government is stealing from you in a direct way, but that they are stealing from you in an indirect Way by forcing you into an association.

Right. It’s stealing. Thank you.

what you have to remember is that there are other people that have been forced into that Association who have come to rely on the benefits of that Association. So if you dissolve that sociation immediately you are creating innocent victims.

So I have to make sure everyone is okay before choosing to send my child to a different school, or deciding not to pay for bombs? I didn’t say I was going to end the system for everyone. Just that it is wrong to force me to pay. Get it? The end.

If you think you have some sort of “right” or moral high ground to tell me that I cannot be free until you deem everyone to be “ready” then you are an authoritarian, and do not understand morality. It’s not about practicality. My point stands.

You would have been the same guy back in the 1800’s saying “You can’t leave the plantation just yet! Too many innocent people depend on the crops!”

Fucking disgusting.

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Oh and one other point. Had the South acknowledge the immorality of slavery they could have actually come up with a solution we're by the slaves were freed in a methodical way over the course of a few months or maybe a year or two. If they had done that, they could have avoided the Civil War, and then we could have avoided hundreds of thousands of American deaths. Honestly, I think that would have been preferable. So actually, even though I think that in practice chattel slavery and conventional taxation are very different in terms of scale and should be approached differently in terms of response, if the South have been willing to take the approach that I'm suggesting towards public education Visa V slavery, a lot of unnecessary death and destruction could have been avoided

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Of course the civil war could have been avoided. The civil war didn’t end slavery, anyway. Individuals that gave up owning slaves did.

Regardless, a slave owner saying, prior to the war, “I’m going to free my slaves” is a win, right?! Even if it was prior to everyone else being freed by the state in your “orderly” manner. Or is it your contention that they all should have waited to do so, until a consensus was reached?

See what I mean, or nah? It may be best for you to buzz around someone else’s blog for a bit.

I'm not debating the desired end result with you. I'm pointing out that the situation is not as simple as you seem to think it is, and pretending that it's literally equivalent to absolute chattel slavery in practice is just dumb. That's like saying getting slapped across the face is literally the same as someone firing a 12ga at you. The same in principle? Sure. The same in actuality? No. Requiring the same response? NO! This particular issue requires a methodical, thoughtful planning process to get from where we are to where we want to be.

Your arguments have no nuance whatsoever. You're like the libertarian version of an SJW.

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You’re slimy as hell man. I just said I will be free. You and everyone else can do what you want. Keep your hands off me. Get it? I am not going to “pull the rug out” from your beloved system of theft. I am telling you that I will make my own choice regardless.

Asking for “nuance” when it comes to owning other humans is about as inanely pathetic as it gets. Your arguments deserve the highest ridicule, as they are not only nonsensical and illogical, but extremely dangerous and violent.

Have your little system! I’ll have mine ;)