Thus, I own the fruits of the labor of this body. If I homestead or acquire land with this body legitimately,
But when I don't accept this government-made rules?
Don't forget that "homesteading" is a legal construct that is only existent in a few countries. I certainly have never voluntarily agreed to that!!
And again - how can you legitimately acquire land if the land is something that cannot be owned? The earth is owned by no one! Only governments claim that they own it!
To force your view of land ownership on me is the same as what governments do. Where is the difference then? In that case I prefer government who can (at least theoretically) be hold accountable and changed.
Excellent. I'll be at your house tonight to use your stuff, and sleep there. You don't own it, right?
The difference is that the government makes rules not based on the reality of self-ownership. If I am not on my property, I cannot force my rules on you, of course.
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I did not agree to your POV, so you don't have the right to put me under your rules.
On what basis do you claim ownership of land? The earth is not the property of anyone, how you can dare to steal a part of her?!?
Don't forget that "homesteading" is a legal construct that is only existent in a few countries. I certainly have never voluntarily agreed to that!!
And again - how can you legitimately acquire land if the land is something that cannot be owned? The earth is owned by no one! Only governments claim that they own it!
please answer those basics
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My friend, you are completely misunderstanding what I am saying here. I have no right to put you "under my rules."
However, if you come to my house, and barge in, I have total nature-conferred right to defend myself. You disagree? I do not have the nature-conferred right to defend my body?
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My friend, you either are not able to react to my questiosn or are will fully ignoring them. So lets make it very very easy, one question at a time:
On which basis do you put your claim on land that I should respect, if I do not agree with your government-induced "homesteading" legal fiction.
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If I, for example, use my body to build a cabin on unowned land, absent a government, you have no nature-conferred right to enter said cabin without invitation.
The reason for this is that you have no right to enter my body, or to aggress against my body. My cabin is a product of my body's labor expended over time. To claim you may also own the cabin is to claim ownership of the labor and time required to build it.
If you disagree with this, logically speaking, I do not need to request permission to enter your house, even if you do not wish me to.
Now I have answered. And now, I would like you to answer my question before we proceed. May I, at any time I wish, even if you do not wish me to, enter your house?
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No, you have not answered my question. COME AWAY FROM YOUR FUCKING HOUSE!
I just put that in as a joke and you are running around it and avoiding the basic question.
Why you think you can own land? What is the reason? You didn't build the land after all!
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Not running away here. Just...if my house is on the land, and you cannot come into my house sans invitation (we agree here, I presume) then for all practical intents and purposes you cannot enter the land upon which it sits unless you dig underground, right?
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All you said amounts to
"I don't own the land, I own what I build atop of it, so I can force you to not use the land beneath even if I have no right to do that because I don't own the land"
Is that right?
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Further more, if I improve the land surrounding my house, say, via landscaping, other buildings, sidewalks, roads, paths, etc, it is mine as well, because I have used my body to expend time and energy in making it so. If you claim you can destroy my improvements because "no one can own land" you are right back to contradicting yourself in asserting I cannot enter your house freely. You cannot own the land upon which it sits, so stop putting your house on land you don't own! Nobody owns it!
Have you traveled around? There is plenty for all of us.
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The issue is not about 'owning the earth' or not. The fact is that as physical creatures we must occupy the earth and its fruits to survive. In some cases, conflicts may arise when two or more desire the same portion. Homesteading, and voluntarism are principles whose function is to provide a fair and equal mechanism whereby property may be legitimately acquired and exchanged without resort simply to 'might makes right.' These principles are being offered for acceptance, no one can force another to agree with them. However, it is hoped that if they have any value, they will be accepted toward a less chaotic and violent future
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