I was chilling in the sun with a pigeon and a rabbit when I thought about this article

in anarchy •  7 years ago 

No one is for taxation in and of itself

People who advocate for taxation aren't actually for taxation, they aren't even for everything that is funded by taxes. What they are for, is some of the things that are funded by taxes. And what exactly it is they want funding for? It differs from person to person. They have never thought about how things could be funded, they just feel it's important that it gets funded because they value what the politicians promised to deliver. They have been told that taxes is how it is and has to be funded, they never questioned that.

Hitting people in the head with taxation is theft! 

So when someone asks them to justify theft, they don't want to. They want to defend the funding of things they value. They don't want to think about the fact that it is being done in an immoral way. Hense they prefer the euphemisms like taxes to avoid cognitive dissonance. When you describe something reprehensible as something nice or neutral it doesn't sound that bad, you can pretend like you're advocating good things and feel like a good person.

Don't make them defensive!

When people become defensive, arguments are usually without effect. They see you as the enemy and assume you are of ill intent. Obviously, you hate education, you only want rich people to get healthcare, You hate safety and cooperation, you kill poor people for shits and giggles, you pray for a world without roads so nobody can get anywhere, basically, you're a selfish, evil, stupid, lying bastard! They don't want to be convinced, all they want is to defeat you.
When you change your mind, a little piece of you dies and a little piece of you is born. This, just like any change, can be very painful for a lot of people.

Finding common ground

So if you want to convince people that cooperation and voluntary interactions are preferable to violence and coercive authority, it helps if you start by trying to find some common ground. Maybe start by asking if they value safety, education, helping the poor, having access to health care or protecting minorities. I'm just speculating now but I think most people will answer in the affirmative. I also suspect that you value these things, at least you're not opposed to them in and of themselves, right?

Don't start by tearing everything down!    

Think of it this way, if you're trying to convince someone to hire you to build them a house, you don't start by blowing their current house up. So don't start the conversation by stating your end goal, abolish all government! It's going to be perceived like, let's blow your house up! If you're an anarcho-capitalist or voluntaryist you have spent some, or more likely a lot of time thinking about how things could work without governments. You know a lot about how ineffective governments are. You know that when a central banker says that there will be no more financial crisis in our lifetime, prepare for an imminent financial crisis. The person you're talking to hasn't spent all that time thinking about this stuff. They will most likely fall back on what they've been told to believe without questioning it.

Okay, I get it, don't tear everything down, so tell me what I should do!

Well, my suggestion is that after finding common ground, you ask them for example if they think that the Swedish government would get more tax revenue if they lowered the taxes seeing as the Laffer curve dictates that people are incentivized to work less the closer you get to 100% tax on income and the Swedish taxes are higher tan the "sweet spot" for maximum confiscation thru taxes. Not because you want the government to get more tax revenue, but because you're getting the other person to think about it, you're planting a seed, not convincing them to agree on everything. Then maybe offer them some resources to read something about Austrian Economics or something.

Thanks for reading, let me know what you think, am I making any sense? If you liked this maybe you will find some value in my previous article about letting go of possessions.

For more on philosophical, psychological, and economic perspectives on morals, politics, law, and other topics give some love to @morality2, follow and check out his latest article. War, taxation, and ultimately government itself will eventually go the same way as slavery and human sacrifice

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When my structures of belief are crashing down (has happened a few times, now), I do prefer a pillow over a punch! Awesome insights, @pomperipossa. Wish I could double upvote it, but will Resteem, instead.

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Thank you! :)

You really speak the truth😊 great and interesting reading.
Im from Sweden so I know how high our taxes are compare to others.....its crazy really.
Robbery.....we pay taxes on everything over and over....
Thx for sharing this. Followed upvoted

Thank you, I'm also from Sweden, it sure is crazy. Följer dig tillbaka.

Oki😊 kul att träffa nån mer från sverige. Var kommer du ifrån? Jag är född o uppvuxen i Ystad men bor med pojkvännen i Trelleborg

Jag kommer från stockholm och bor där för tillfället. Siktar dock på att bli mer nomadisk.

Okej. Stockholm är fint är där emellanåt vår släkt bor där. Vart skulle du bosätta dej då?
:0)

Tanken är att inte bosätta mig någonstans, inte permanent i alla fall. Men jag kommer nog befinna mig mycket i Acapulco. :)

Yep, I can concur with what is said here.

If you want to change people's mind, do it with love!

Yes, and trying to figure out what the person is thinking and feeling, using emphaty.

Most people are not black and white on moral issues. They will remain in what they see as status quo and believe morality is a grey area. I think they really need to hear taxation is theft over and over, but not by one individual but many. If they hear "taxation is theft" and "immoral" and then "backed up by violence and coercion" from enough people then their minds may be disturbed enough especially if they have some rationality to their thinking to reassess their view. Eventually "slavery is immoral" was totally accepted. I think the same can happen if "taxation is theft" and "immoral" is a common response. I don't think slavery would have been eradicated if we were soft on how wrong it is.

You make a good point! I'm glad that more people are hearing taxation is theft. Some people will be convinced by getting hit in the head, metaphorically speaking. And some will be convinced using a softer approach. No one individual is exactly the same as another. Following you. :)

Unfortunately there are millions of slaves being forced to work in America.

While the proposition that 'slavery is immoral' has been accepted, people are easily led to ignore 'special cases' like prisoners. Slavery may be universally reviled, but it is practiced today in all 50 states.

Very good point! And very unfortunate indeed...

Very nice article. Positivity is key in convincing people, so finding common ground is the best strategy.

Thank you!

You speak the truth... taxes taxes everywhere. It's basically stealing from our pockets in the middle of the day.

Yeah, for sure!

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See your post mentioned here

Yey :)

Where is the rabbit? :-)

To the right of the pigeon. :)

Great insights, and I hope to improve my blog on Steemit as a result of reading them.

Thanks!

Thank you!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

tax is forced.
force = not good
;)

It doesn't sound complicated when you put it like that. ;)

I'm for taxation if it is robbing from a thief

So two wrongs make a right?

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I like your post. Though I think there are many who do not possess forethought or compassion for their fellow man and therefor we wouldn't have enough to provide for essential services or things like education and value adding research if things were voluntaryist. If there is a right outcome than perhaps the second wrong as you call it could bring about a right, yes. Was robinhood a villian? If cigarettes increase the burden on the healthcare system and on socialized premiums is it not fair to tax such a thing if it were to recoup that loss? It should probably go towards subsidizing premiums in this instance. And what of a corporation which uses its leverage to set contracts and unreasonable prices upon its consumer? Of increased efficiencies yet increasing prices? Does a massive profit indicate a lesser value of service/product which should be levied for other social benefits? Is it possible or even fair to determine a price cap to be imposed on a corporation's good or service? Of splitting them up and reducing efficiencies? Taxation seems the best scenario in a capitalistic society. Though less taxes on the middle and lower working classes seems prudent. A capitalistic socialism where we determine the markets and enforce efficiencies(which are barriers to entry) to be given back to consumers. Who's the biggest advocate for small government? Big business which wants to abuse their power.

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