https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread
If you are calling yourself an anarchist, and have not read this book, you are not helping the cause as fully as you could be.
These questions and solutions that you are finding new to yourselves are not, they have been hashed out hundreds of years ago, but it hasn't been in the best interest of those that want to control you to allow these ideas into your mind.
In fact, to do so would sow the seeds of their demise.
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Chapter 4: Expropriation
I
It is told of Rothschild that, seeing his fortune threatened by the Revolution of 1848, he hit upon the following stratagem: “I am quite willing to admit,” said he, “that my fortune has been accumulated at the expense of others, but if it were divided to-morrow among the millions of Europe, the share of each would only amount to five shillings. Very well, then, I undertake to render to each his five shillings if he asks me for it.”
Having given due publicity to his promise, our millionaire proceeded as usual to stroll quietly through the streets of Frankfort. Three or four passers-by asked for their five shillings, which he disbursed with a sardonic smile. His stratagem succeeded, and the family of the millionaire is still in possession of its wealth.
It is in much the same fashion that the shrewd heads among the middle classes reason when they say, “Ah, Expropriation! I know what that means. You take all the overcoats and lay them in a heap, and every one is free to help himself and fight for the best.”
But such jests are irrelevant as well as flippant. What we want is not a redistribution of overcoats, although it must be said that even in such a case, the shivering folk would see advantage in it. Nor do we want to divide up the wealth of the Rothschilds. What we do want is so to arrange things that every human being born into the world shall be ensured the opportunity in the first instance of learning some useful occupation, and of becoming skilled in it; next, that he shall be free to work at his trade without asking leave of master or owner, and without handing over to landlord or capitalist the lion’s share of what he produces. As to the wealth held by the Rothschilds or the Vanderbilts, it will serve us to organize our system of communal production.
The day when the labourer may till the ground without paying away half of what he produces, the day when the machines necessary to prepare the soil for rich harvests are at the free disposal of the cultivators, the day when the worker in the factory produces for the community and not the monopolist — that day will see the workers clothed and fed, and there will be no more Rothschilds or other exploiters.
No one will then have to sell his working power for a wage that only represents a fraction of what he produces.
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Good Job, Cheetah.
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How are you gonna prevent me from making the choice to sell my working power for a wage?
Or to trade with anyone, cause that's what work is. I mow someone's lawn, they give me eggs.
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I'm not, either you agree that it is better to work the necessary minimum in return for full access to freedom, or you continue to slave in the paradigm that has trapped you.
You currently work in excess of 80,000 hours to retire to what ever you have scrimped by on, whereas my numbers are more like 20,000 hours and you live a lifestyle that would've cost millions in this slave paradigm.
If you want to be a bum, my proposal accounts for that by pointing out that we got bums now, but we also pay lifetime benefits to the social support system that coddles them.
That wouldn't exist under my paradigm.
We'd just carry the bum, and put the support system to something productive.
Were this transition to happen, say next Tuesday, you will be shocked at how few workers it really takes to give us this level of living.
When you spread that labor out we are looking at less than 20 years at about 20 hours a week.
The excess of those that produce beyond this minimum could drive that 20,000 hour estimate even lower.
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Your first sentence is : I either must agree or be a slave.
This is an opinion, that I only have one choice.
Being free means you have more choices not either/or.
If your opinion is different of mine I don't mind, as long as you don't use violence to make me obey your opinion. Because that's what we have now with taxation and all the other law's
Why would I be a slave if I build a homestead for example. And trade with my neighbours. It would be a different thing if I had to pay taxes and I have to spend time working for someone else, under threat of force. That is being a slave in my opinion.
I'm not saying that you plan is a bad plan ( for you) or that you may not do that, I wouldn't dare, I'm only saying that I don't want to be part of a collective if it is forced upon me as the one master plan that everybody must obey or even must want.
Now I'm a tax slave even if I don't have a job for a wage. I'm not a bum I work for myself in renovating my house, tending a garden etc. but I still have to pay taxes without the taxes and laws I would be a free human being. Not bothering anybody. I don't see anything wrong in the life I live.
I however don't like other people making a master plan for my live I don't need a plan and I don't need a master. Or the collective as master.
I'm free to choose how I live my life because it's mine. To think otherwise would mean , i think, I am property of someone else and they get to decide, how I must live, how I must work, with whom I may trade, and what I must do and pay. To be the property of someone, be it a government, a collective or a slave master, means your a slave. This is my opinion also, I know but I'm not forcing you to do it my way. I hope you will let others be free in their choices as long as they let you be free, to live your live the way you want to live it.
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I'm sorry if dichotomies confuse you, but the choice is black or white, freedom or slavery.
They are mutually exclusive, I cannot be partially enslaved.
I can be partially free, well, not me, but you know what I mean.
Me and Albert Camus.
If you require me to starve outside your overflowing food warehouse because I am poor, you have forced me to live the way you want, and you propagandize me as the bad guy for stealing rather than you for being greedy/selfish.
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So if I have a homestead and you are hungry you think you may come and take what you want because I'm somehow greedy and selfish for wanting to sustain my own life, for example by growing food and saving seeds for the future so that in the spring I can sow the food I need and the seeds to safe for another year.
You think you can propagandize me as the bad guy for thinking and planning ahead my life by growing my own food and saving seeds (future food), and call me selfish and greedy to justify you taking food without asking. (or working for it)
You think that if you need food you just can come and eat my food and seed crop. And you think that somehow that is not slavery.
Me working my ass of for you and everybody, to come and take it without asking.
That is slavery you know. I work without getting the fruits of my labor to sustain my life, because you think you can take what I worked for, just by needing it. (You forget in the meantime that i planned ahead for what I need in the future not needing anything from anyone else.)
You might as well call yourself a greedy/selfish slave master stealing the work and future of another human being.
I'm sorry if it confuses you but it is, black or white, it's stealing or exchanging.
If you steal from someone you make him your slave.
(he worked, you take, no choice, violence)
If you exchange with someone you let him be free.
(he worked for something and is willing to exchange it for something you worked for, or will work for, or for free, with choice , non violence)
Stealing is slavery
Exchange is freedom.
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So, tell me how you plan to sustain a modern electronic lifestyle on your survival plot?
You must have the industrial complex to create the solar pump that pumps your water.
You have to have the industrial complex to make the solar cells that create the electricity that powers your wifi.
Or was that just a red herring?
If you want to escape to a cave, that is fine, I won't be bothering you, and would defend you from attack, but when you come out and find that we just give you the generator you need because we know that as long as everybody joins in on the production of consumer crap we can have all kinds of consumer crap for about 20,000 hours of production, each.
By dividing the work among all able bodied humans everywhere, and distributing this production to the planet, not just to the oligarchs' warehouses, we can escape this war/murder/death/ paradigm to a much higher lifestyle than a survival cave.
But I'm afraid that your lord, and savior, crapitalism, has been put into you just like the training the most zealot assassin gets, you are not capable of taking the steps it would take to enlighten you from the dark path instilled in you as a child.
If you were, you would read this book: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread
I think I got a safe bet here.
Just as it is likely that me saying, 'FUCK Christ', or insert your favorite man in the sky here, would offend you, so to is it impossible for you to look at alternatives to crapitalism, and for the same reasons.
I mean, I got out, but I am an exception that had exceptional circumstances that led to years of reading over decades of thinking about what I have read.
It is the propaganda that you got in school that leads you to believe that a survival plot is the epitome of what humans can create.
And realistically, without a reason to band together into group endeavors, it is all we can hope for as individuals.
So, don't confuse what I have proposed with any rule by force paradigm that has preceded it.
Anything that was done today could have been compensated by the privilege of ordering anything from the interwebz to be delivered to your door for free, but instead you want to account for most of the 'value' of the 'production' through the 'price calculation' to crapitalusts/oligarchs that just want to bomb some more Syrian children in a world wide satanic ritual.
I mean, unless that isn't what you meant,....
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