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I should be more careful,....it's not that I want to burn bridges, but it is the duty of the intellectual to expose lies and tell the truth, even if that bursts the little princesses' bubbles.
So, with that in mind,....
It seems that the shot across the bow has not worked, 'they' are going to go on duping those new to the concept of anarchism, as if they didn't see my post.
If you are following those folks, they may be well intentioned, but they are definitely mis-informed.
If you want to find out about anarchism, and why anarchists have given their lives for more than 150 years to achieve it, you gotta read.
I would suggest not reading ANY book that was printed after 1940.
If you get lucky enough to find a dictionary, or encyclopedia, from before 1920 you will see why I tell you this.
If you want to know another, look here.
This is an article from the time, by a lady that should know, she shaped the word 'anarchy' like few others.
If you want heroes you shouldn't look to contemporary figures, unless they are insurrectionary, otherwise they can only regurgitate the originals, many poorly.
If you want to learn about anarchy, look in the source.
If you want to be led astray by folks that aren't even real enough to speak up when I publicly chastise them, well, you'll end up coming to the same conclusions I have, or you'll be used for purposes you don't even realize exist.
Have a perfectly peaceful day!
///"What is called socialism is not social." socialization is common ownership of the means of production
looks too autistic not gonna read the rest.//
This is the kind of reactions I get.
The person himself blocks communication.
The big issue is that when people dictate you, you must do according to my (or worse our) opinion or else your the enemy that needs to be destroyed. Is not actually good for a discussion about freedom or how to get there.
To sum up what I think a little:
People that say the communism of Russia wasn't communism, I'm fine with that. What I would suggest, ( It's a suggestion, it's my opinion and I'm not saying you must do that) Go live in a commune, work in a co-op or what you all want, live communism as you all think it should be. By doing what you want. So that people can choose to live there or to leave. But don't force your idea onto the whole world.
You can't make all people want the same, voluntarily, and it gets ugly if you go and make an enemy of differently thinking people. This is where it gets ugly.
What is wrong with starting your own community and creating that gift economy, If it turns out to work great in reality and people are truly free to adopt or reject the ideology without force, would it not attrakt more people in a voluntary manner? Is that not what you want?
You can not say this is my ideology and it's the only right ideology and just must live that way because I say so. You only can live you're ideology and show people how good it is. (Well of course you can say that as long as you don't use the violence)
I try to tell you, where I think the silence comes from because I experience it this way;
You all say; you must live this way and else you're the enemy that needs to be destroyed. ( can you imagine it is scary, Isn't this how it got out of hand in the past?)
I say please go live you're way I won't bother you or harm you, but don't harm me or anyone else for thinking differently.
Can you imagine, that if I see what you want, and you all dictate people that this is how it must be, that I'm truly scared because I can see where this is going, that if a large group would adopt the ideology that your group has, the only choice I have is to go silent, just to stay alive.
I see history repeating itself in front of me every day and thinking about where it leads to...with almost nothing I can do about it.....but talk and only talk...... that... in and of itself leave me speechless silent and sad.
And then I speak again.....it's all I've got.
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I didn't bother to read the rest of your comment, either.
It must have been stupid if it started out that way.
When you are ready to have a conversation, let me know.
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Do you mean the comment I wrote to anarchyhasnogods or my comment to you?
Cause in the comment to anarchyhasnogods
It didn't started out that way I was the 4th sentence or so. It was about how things are named that and that the opposite is often the case.
Orwellian stuff. Or would you say that socialism in it current form is social?
I would say for socialism to be social I would need a choice to participate or at least have a choice between more communities, and the choice not to participate and live in a cave.
I suspect that your only willing to have a conversation if I'm agreeing with everything 100%. You and you're friends come across as dictators with whom one can not disagree or bad things will happen. This is not to put you down, but to show you that the "attitude" you show, makes it very clearly that the world is not gonna be a free place, if your group would come to power, free born people like me would not survive very long.
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Hold up, you got me all wrong, I didn't read the comment that came to me because you started off on the wrong foot.
Then you accuse me of being a thug and wanting to rule you by force.
These have both been refuted in the post.
Either my proposal is adopted on it's merits or it doesn't fly.
If you want to do what you do, that is fine, but you will still be able to order what you need from the store and it will be delivered to you free.
If you want to persist in your crapitalust ways, I'm sure your neighbors will laugh at you.
If that is fine by you, then feel free, but I doubt that once the people accept my logic that you will be able to find anybody that wants to go back to this dystopia.
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