Hi everyone, today I grew up! I discovered that photographers are not artists !!!
and guess who made me discover it!? @daio
It is her, that beautiful girl who ...make the same mistake as her friend ...
copy and not declare ...
she exposed herself a lot during the confrontation with her friend @yakubenko, this made me think that “ bad company will teach you bad ways”...
it's not yours, and certainly no one will compliment you any more if you don't mention the sources ...
https://smoke.io/art/@daio/it-s-time-for-a-little-smoke-my-picture-is-watercolor-portrait
After finding this first plagiarism, I continued to investigate,and guess what I found?
recycling!!!
same identical post published before on this site...
omg also on steemit?
ohhh yesssssss and not only one..
""the other part, do you bring it back in 2 years?""
in the final, the image you copied is copyrighted
"All rights reserved", You know what that means?@daio
ah...
I almost forgot
"now let's wait together!"
Photographer is an artist or is more artist who are stealing her photos to do a carbon copy with a pencil? Copyright doesn't exist when "all rights are reserved" and there's no authorisation for derivative works? Let's wait a response from the real author.
"Congratulations for your art" @daio
Post in collaboration with @lagiaguara
This is @ilGiaguaro, not jaguar.force @logic
Reporting directly from the jungle.
Onwards!
Can you specify which term of service of Steemit violated this user? I didn't understand. Thanks for the clarification. I also asked yesterday but I didn't get an answer.
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That is the part of the TOS she is violating.
The author of that photograph could easily request a DMCA so the post in question to be taken down by Steemit since the user has no permission by the author of the photograph to monetize derivative works. That would be a big problem from Steemit.
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I did not take her photo. I painted a portrait!
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right, that is called a derivative work of her photograph, to monetize said work you need, according to the law in any country, the permission from the author.
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This is not called plagiarism! This is an art loan!
Read the meaning of the word plagiarism!
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plagiarism is taking the work of others and passing it as your own without crediting the authors. In this case the photographer created his work of art/composition, your work is completely based on the work of art of the photographer, a derivative work, and you dont credit the author, hence, its plagiarism.
Additionally, you dont have permission to monetize derivative works of that copyrighted photograph, so you are also infringing copyright law.
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From one of the forums:
"One of the biggest scandals in the field of copyright with the participation of Russian contemporary artists happened to the artist Georgy Pusenkov, who has been permanently residing in Cologne for the fifth year. Like all modern artists who use elements of postmodernism, Pusenkoff used a citation in one of his paintings a nude girl, a pose and even highlights and shadows copied the model of one of the works of the famous photographer Helmut Newton, famous for the series of artistic shots of naked models. Puzenkova’s plagiarism is not very clear: the rough and unattractive (unlike the original) silhouette of the girl is depicted as dead lilac and black, and the “all the most interesting” covers the yellow square. Actually, Pusenkoff’s work is very ironic - “Power of Blue”. Unfortunately, it was this picture that was exhibited at the Venice Biennale and caught the eye of the maitre of photography. Newton was outraged, finding that it was the work of a malicious plagiarist before him. Pusenkov, in turn, implied that the open quotation flattered the author of the original, because ku it is - a sure sign of recognition of the artistic credibility of international importance. However, the master of the “world” did not go, unambiguously hinting at Pusenkoff’s lawyers that everything can be quoted, but subject to appropriate deductions to the author. At the first stage of the instant trial, the Land Court in Hamburg upheld Newton’s lawsuit, banning Pusenkova from exposing the painting and distributing its reproductions. Pusenkoff sold the painting for an extremely high price - 16 thousand DM, at the same time filing an appeal with the court. On the day when this issue of Money magazine was signed, we contacted Cologne, where the artist lives, by telephone. Here is what George Pusenkov himself said:
“I beat Newton this process today.” I appealed to the High Court in Hamburg, and this court found me right. All his absurd claims are removed. After the first trial I was forbidden to exhibit this work, otherwise I was threatened with fines and almost a prison. Now all these sanctions have been lifted from me, besides, Newton pays all legal costs, pays lawyers. One could also file a claim for moral damages, but that would be a separate story. The absurdity of the situation, from my point of view, is that a painting, an object made by hands, is a completely different area of perception than photography. Of course, this is a quotation, but when a quote is used in a work of art, it is used as a stone, as a tool used for construction - and the building is completely different. It may be, in addition to this, any other elements.
Well, given the loudness of Newton's worldwide fame, the exceptional interest of the Western press in the just-completed litigation and the unprecedentedness of the final — few expected that the court would take the side of an émigré artist from Russia — the current owners of the ill-fated picture could make a fortune this week.
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There are many ways of borrowing, in which there is nothing bad, and resorted to by the most eminent masters.
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You can learn more about art plagiarism here: https://steemit.com/abuse/@jaguar.force/what-is-art-plagiarism-by-francis-leverett-golden
what you are doing is not borrowing, since you dont have permission by the author. borrowing is done with consent.
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plagiarism is when one artist sketched a picture from another artist!
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I must inform you that a photographer is an artist
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The photographer is not an artist! If you are so stupid about it, then we are not going to speak!
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You did not hold a pencil in your dirty hands! the photographer is not an artist!
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copying does not make you an artist, but only a draftsman
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Assignment of authorship (plagiarism), if this act caused major damage to the author or other copyright holder
plagiarism is the appropriation of copyright works!
I did not assign this photo! I painted a portrait! Portrait is my art!
And I created art myself!
Learn the law!
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@ilgiaguaro You want to say that all the artists who paint a portrait to order, just draftsmen?
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Omg my love, I'm just telling you that you have to mention the sources...
You are beautiful and you have a good hand, you just need to put the source .. why do you insist on not understanding?
I don't have it with you, but it's right that you put the sources of your work...
And above all check the cc of the images ..
And don't post the same content several times, it's considered spam
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I do not understand? I know my rights! I did not steal and did not expose her photo for my own! I draw portraits to order. I draw portraits of people!
Do not confuse plagiarism! You do not have the right to call me that. Plagiarism is the appropriation, pictures, photos, names, and so on. Assignment, it means giving someone work for their own!
I painted a portrait, and this is already my art! I was inspired by this child and I wanted to draw it! What's not clear!?
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You do Not have the right to Monetize derivative artworks of a copyrighted photograph Without the Permission of the Author.
We are not confusing the definition of plagiarism https://steemit.com/abuse/@jaguar.force/what-is-art-plagiarism-by-francis-leverett-golden inform yourself about the true scope and shades of art plagiarism.
Plagiarism is not only taking someones drawing/photograph/artwork and passing it as your own, thats called art theft, and its only the most blatant form of art plagiarism, the most common one is called art paraphrasing, which is what you are doing.
If somebody gives you a picture so you make a portrait of them, thats a different thing, since they are the model on the photograph and have the right to use it.
In this case, the photograph is Copyrighted by the photographer, that means that the photographer reserves all the rights of the picture to herself, and that means that to make derivative works of that photograph, as for example Your Drawing, you need permission from the author to do so. Additionally since by posting it in Steemit you are monetizing it you also need permission from the author to do that as well.
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oh my god, you're so stupid!?
I have the right to draw a picture from a photo!
Secondly, I can send my artwork to my, and my soul will wish it as many times as I need!
This is a portrait of a boy!
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You need permission from the author of the copyrighted photograph in order to monetize a derivative work.
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She did not do a mechanical reproduction of the photograph. It took great artistic skill to accomplish her rendition. Are you telling me that if I made a clay sculpture from looking at that photograph it would be plagiarism? Or if I wrote a song about the image in the photograph I would be violating someone's rights? You're full of shit.
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Makes no difference, its a derivative work.
What Im telling you is that derivative works of copyrighted photographs require the permission of the author, even more if it is to be monetized.
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Please take it to court and see what happens; that way you can stop wasting people's time with your misinformed nonsense. Cheers!
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No need to take it to court Sir, a simple DMCA request will be enough in this case to have it pulled down from the interface. We are already in contact with the author of the photo.
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Good luck with that. LMK what happens, or better yet, publish it.
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Not! I did not post a photo of someone!
This is my art!
All artists paint portraits from photographs!
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Your art is clearly a derivative work from a copyrighted photograph, hence you need the permission of the author to monetize it. It very simple and the rule is the same all over the world.
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I did not take her photo. I painted a portrait!
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right, and your painting is a derivative work of the photograph, which you have no permission from the author to monetize. Additionally you dont cite the photo nor the author, so its plagiarism.
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"Reading those post I see a lot of other (well known here) artists who replied to tat user in the same way I'm doing with this post, so, let me say: if a lot of artists (well know here and with a good reputation!) here have the same doubts about the posts of that user who are accusing randomly, maybe there's something right in what I'm saying or all we artists are in wrong and just that user is in right? Just to know. Maybe he/she have to be a real life or he's a just a person who doesn't have enough skill to be considerer and artist and so he/she's envious? "
https://steemit.com/art/@silviabeneforti/learning-day-by-day-thanks-the-great-artists
So apparently, @jaguar.force, you and your cohort @ilgiaguaro have been bullying real artists in steemit for quite a while now, building your self-righteousness careers, while paying little attention to real plagiarists.
I suggest that you stop NOW!
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"Just an example (just one of a lot of crazy posts tthat user wrote) that can help you to know how much this user is just a troll, look at here(1). I don't know the user he/she accuse to be a plagiarist, but that artist (I think she's a student) simply drew something from a photo online! She didn't copy an artwork, she painted the subject from a photo and she made a good exercise. Sure, it's always good to write the name of the artist/photographer/etc that inspired your work, but plagiarism is something different!"
https://steemit.com/art/@silviabeneforti/learning-day-by-day-thanks-the-great-artists
(1)https://steemit.com/abuse/@jaguar.force/art-plagiarism-case-3-caso-de-plagio-artistico-3-akarantain
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show me the real artists, these are just draftmen as ilgiaguaro said.
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I should not put a source on my art! Because this is my picture!
This is not a copy! This is a portrait!
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When posting content that either is owned by someone else or inspired by someone else’s works, it is proper to list the said source in your post with a link to the original.
Failing to do so is considered plagiarism, and could result in being blacklisted by curation groups or even flagged.
Examples include:
If you understand the rules explained in this comment reply to this comment with "I understand"
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You certainly dont have the right to monetize a drawing of a photo if you dont have permission from the author of the photograph to do so.
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I have not assigned a photo! I painted a portrait! This is allowed by law! I can draw everyone! And this is called artistic intercourse!
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When posting content that either is owned by someone else or inspired by someone else’s works, it is proper to list the said source in your post with a link to the original.
Failing to do so is considered plagiarism, and could result in being blacklisted by curation groups or even flagged.
Examples include:
If you understand the rules explained in this comment reply to this comment with "I understand"
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you are misquoting her, get a life. what have you done to create content? nothing.
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you don't know me either, please let me work
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It is clearly obvious that all the references you gave do belong to @daio.
You are simply trolling genuine artists as you previously did with @yakubenko and you did fail in both cases.
For next time, try to utilize your skills in finding real plagiarizers.
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The reference does not belong to daio, as you can see in the comment above its a pocyrighted image by another author, in the case of yakubenko, its exactly the same, shes making a derivative work of a copyrighted photograph without permission from the author, which is required, and without even crediting the author.
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you are not sensible!
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hi @bluemist!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87122581@N06/8688993467/
"All rights reserved"
I really like his hand, but he has to learn to cite the sources ...
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I should not indicate the source of the photo which I draw
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yes, you should, the photographer is another artist from whom you are taking creative work from, hence you should credit the author of the photograph or the photograph itself
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This is not called plagiarism! This is an art loan!
Read the meaning of the word plagiarism!
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plagiarism is taking the work of others and passing it as your own without crediting the authors. In this case the photographer created his work of art/composition, your work is completely based on the work of art of the photographer, a derivative work, and you dont credit the author, hence, its plagiarism.
Additionally, you dont have permission to monetize derivative works of that copyrighted photograph, so you are also infringing copyright law.
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Borrowing is not prohibited by law! Do not confuse these things! Plagiarism is the appropriation of work!
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You can find more about what art plagiarism is here: https://steemit.com/abuse/@jaguar.force/what-is-art-plagiarism-by-francis-leverett-golden
What is prohibited by law is making a derivative work of a copyrighted work and monetizing it as you are doing without permission of the author of the original to do so.
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I use photography as reference / stad. And the fact that I drew this uzhemoy work, and the photo that made the photographer, this is his work
You probably do not know the definition of the word plagiarism!
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Plagiarism is taking the work of others and passing it as your own without crediting the authors. In this case the photographer created his work of art/composition, the user's work is completely based on the work of art of the photographer, a derivative work, and she doesnt credit the author or photograph, hence, its plagiarism.
Additionally, you she doesnt have permission to monetize derivative works of that copyrighted photograph, so she is also infringing copyright law.
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Plagiarism is an appropriation! I have not appropriated photos of the author! I painted a portrait!
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Plagiarism includes derivative works. The type of plagiarism you incurred in is called art paraphrasing.
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Again! Plagiarism is the assignment of someone else's work, photos, names, and more!
You probably do not understand the meaning of the word "appropriation"!
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You can learn more about art plagiarism here:
https://steemit.com/abuse/@jaguar.force/what-is-art-plagiarism-by-francis-leverett-golden inform yourself about the true scope and shades of art plagiarism.
Plagiarism is Not only taking someones drawing/photograph/artwork and passing it as your own, thats called art theft, and its only the most blatant form of art plagiarism, the most common one is called art paraphrasing, which is what you are doing.
In this case, the photograph is Copyrighted by the photographer, that means that the photographer reserves all the rights of the picture to herself, and that means that to make derivative works of that photograph, as for example Your Drawing, you need permission from the author to do so. Additionally since by posting it in Steemit you are monetizing it you also need permission from the author to do that as well.
Appropiation only applies for famous artworks as for example say the monalisa, where the original is easily and readily recognized because of its popularity, or in cases where the work is transformative, and not derivative as your drawing.
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This is not a copy, this is an artwork!
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its artwork which is a copy of another artwork in the form of a photograph.
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Plagiarism is an appropriation! I have not appropriated photos of the author! I painted a portrait!
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Lol are you a bot?
You wrote the same sentence like 20 times under this post
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@ luegenbaron hear you to me? I repeat the Fa! If you have heard of this, of course! And if this person does not understand the first time, then I will repeat to him 1000 times!
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Lol and the other side does the same cuz you just dont want to understand it.
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I know the Law! I know my rights
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Lol. You definetely dont.
But that's okay.
I dont think law has any legitimacy.
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This is not called plagiarism! This is an art loan!
Read the meaning of the word plagiarism!
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plagiarism is taking the work of others and passing it as your own without crediting the authors. In this case the photographer created his work of art/composition, your work is completely based on the work of art of the photographer, a derivative work, and you dont credit the author, hence, its plagiarism.
Additionally, you dont have permission to monetize derivative works of that copyrighted photograph, so you are also infringing copyright law.
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There are many ways of borrowing, in which there is nothing bad, and resorted to by the most eminent masters.
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Borrowing implies consent, you do not have the consent of the author of the photograph.
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Plagiarism is an appropriation! I have not appropriated photos of the author! I painted a portrait!
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Go ahead and learn more about art plagiarism here: https://steemit.com/abuse/@jaguar.force/what-is-art-plagiarism-by-francis-leverett-golden inform yourself about the true scope and shades of art plagiarism.
Plagiarism is not only taking someones drawing/photograph/artwork and passing it as your own, thats called art theft, and its only the most blatant form of art plagiarism, the most common one is called art paraphrasing, which is what you are doing.
If somebody gives you a picture so you make a portrait of them, thats a different thing, since they are the model on the photograph and have the right to use it.
In this case, the photograph is Copyrighted by the photographer, that means that the photographer reserves all the rights of the picture to herself, and that means that to make derivative works of that photograph, as for example Your Drawing, you need permission from the author to do so. Additionally since by posting it in Steemit you are monetizing it you also need permission from the author to do that as well.
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so much crap over something as simple as adding 6 words to a post
shrug
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