the steemcleaners. I'm not saying it's not good but this group got too much power.
RE: AskSteem: What do you dislike about Steem?
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Do you think the scope or approach of the Steemcleaners can be changed and if so, what would you think a better version would look like?
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Each community should have their own scope because they know better for their communities. Steemcleaners might lower their scope and give communities more controls. This will lower your workload and better for communities to get more new users into the steem.
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That's actually been worked on since last year and as more communities communicate with Steemcleaners the better it works. The real issue is that there are users who don't fit any communities and have no interest in them. They only care about getting as much money out of the blockchain as they can and its those ones who make giant botnets, steal identities, etc.
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okay, thanks for your explanation. I feel your pain now. How to work with steemcleaners?
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Best thing to do is just blog and curate normally but keep an eye out of either users or posts or voting that just doesn't look right. If something makes you take a second look and wonder about it, there's a reason. Use the reporting form http://steemcleaners.com/reports/new to report. If it's a mistake, it gets sorted out, but usually a gut feeling is right on.
For communities, the way is to just come chat on Discord and figure out what the Steemcleaners can do and what they can do together.
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Those are actually separate things. I'm not in any communities right now. Partially because I hate discord...and partially because I hate being forced to upvote things, and haven't seen a community I really like.
Wonder if there's a maker community here...or a programmer community....
It was the same way in high school.
Some people just don't really join up into communities. They're not the type. Some just don't really know what community they fit into.
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They're not like you. You're part of steem.chat and you're invested emotionally in steem. They're here to set up automatic bots and leave. They don't speak to other users. It's like phishing, its an automatic business transaction.
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Yeah, I know. Though perhaps some of them could possibly be good users. There certainly are a ton of community members that are out for themselves and the money and are still part of the community in some way. Even I think about money...though I also occasionally do things that have nothing to do with it.
Of course, even if I was all about the money, I would have just made an automated vote service that's better than all the rest. :P Most of the people just about the money aren't really that smart...or they'd come up with better ways sometimes.
My point was just that being separate from individual communities does not preclude people from being good users.
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Yeah that's a good point. There are a lot of users that don't join communities.
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That has been quite a controversial subject, many say that they are too big as well and that they take sides on what to flag and what to ignore.
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yah, it's ongoing controversial subject. I think communities should have more control on which to flag or to ignore.
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Transparency is my biggest issue with it. They should post their evidence on the blockchain for the community to see, and not force people to go to discord to plead their case.
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There's a lot of personal info involved so it really wouldn't be right to make people post it publicly. For example, someone may tell the Steemcleaners that so and so account is their brother named whatever. Even on the Discord if something is too private, it's kept like that. The comments themselves are all on the blockchain and have reference links so everyone can double check.
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Your contests are posts where people upvote for a share of the rewards. You did get a response, it just wasn't the response you wanted. https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_is_considered_spam_or_abuse
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Didn’t know @playdice was a contest. /s
All I know is the creator had it cleared with the @steemcleaners and that’s good enough for me.
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