ASK STEEMIT: How steemit can be improved :- best reply gets 2SD

in asksteemit •  8 years ago  (edited)

Hey steemers ,
Today I was thinking of joining this Asksteemit concept of @nextgen622 and I would like to do this contest as TeamIndia.
My earnings are low currently so I'll start with 2SD but with time the giveaway prizes will increase.

Q: How to Improve steemit in a best possible way ?
The best reply and comment with maximum upvotes will be given 2SD.

You are only eligible If you have commented upvoted and resteemed this post.
PLEASE include your answer in the comments below
you can follow me for more contests @alokkoshal
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  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Personaly, what i am missing most, is a good search function. Where I could specify my interested time fame, like 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 6 month, & alltime. Present asksteem search results are hard use, it gives a mix many very old post, which in most cases are not relevant at all today

Agreed.. I popped in here to say .. search function

try https://beta.chainbb.com/ for what you are describing it is a forum style interface of the STEEM blockchain and as far as I can tell interchangeable with Steemit.com what you post comment and reply there is also visible on steemit.com as normal. Post payout rules differ slightly though.

Basically it takes the tag structure to order posts in a forum style.
I find it very useful to browse all kinds of post new or old by topic.

As an application it is still young but shows promise.

The feed of steemit.com as it is currently is unusable with too many following (I started over again with my following list, only follow those that have commented on my posts)
The metrics of followers are becoming pretty useless.

I have 130 followers but few seem to respond to posts.

I even am running an experiment this week where you can earn 5 SBD as the best commenter, nobody is even bothering to comment! (Pro tip, the first one that is able to put a one paragraph sensible comment together will win it, there is no competition!)

https://steemit.com/minnowsupportproject/@the-traveller/127-followers-already-rewarding-followers-prizes-for-the-best-comments

Thnks for stopping by

Sorry to hijack your thread! Good initiative, I am glad it is working for you, will resteem it. I would appreciate your own comments on my post to generate quality comments
(that one has a 5 SBD reward for the best commenter and so far noone even has bothered to make an effort!)
https://steemit.com/minnowsupportproject/@the-traveller/127-followers-already-rewarding-followers-prizes-for-the-best-comments

No worries enjoy your time on steemit.... I have a big heart... :)

You will be eligible if you resteem it, else a good ans...

Exactly...

Hello @alokkoshal! I had actually posted a wishlist few weeks ago! Didn't have that much attention from steemians though! ;)

Here the link with few ideas: https://steemit.com/steemit/@omwith/steemit-wishlist-what-would-you-like-to-have-available-in-steemit

Good post.... And very fine ideas too :)

thanks! I hope some of them get implemented soon! :)

i think one thing that is missing is a way of forming micro communities.. like groups.. RIght now it feels like we are all in the same pot! That can be great but also it can be very nice to have a more cozy area where people can engage

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

First, I've rest'ed, up'ed and foll'd..
As for my feature suggestion. I am going to keep it real simple. The platform needs hundreds of basic UI/UX improvements (user interface/user experience) but I know one that could be done in 5 min by a dev today, if they would just handle it.

On the following/follower list pages. all the buttons are the same color. When I scroll the people that follow me, I have to really squint and go slow to find the ones left for me to follow in the bunch. pages and pages worth of scrolling to follow back the people who follow me. (something i consider only fair and nice and considerate to to)

Either let us just sort them, literally a one line, 2 second code patch to sort tables like this list or multi-color the damn buttons, steemit, green for followed (click to unfollow) and say, red or yellow for follow (not yet following, click to follow) - the buttons are merely different sizes now and it's blinding to dig through and find them.

I want to fish slap the developer who thought that was acceptable to release.

(it would be nice to be able to search followers and followees as well)

good one sir...

Do you not find that process infuriating too? Searching your followers for the ones that need a follow back?

yes , many times

Great post idea, I hope it goes viral and the devs pay attention to it.
Good luck!

  1. Nameable Folders/Playlist directories for each user (so we can bookmark/save and organize some of the awesome information found on Steemit).

  2. Expand user profiles a bit more. Each user can display 3 to 10 photos. Visitors can click on a portfolio which shows a users best work.

  3. Prevent users from getting flagged into oblivion by one member who is targeting that user!

Thank you!

Yup... True.. Flagging should be reviewed

@alokkoshal thanks for the agreement!

Great points. Also change the "flag" icon into a "downvote" icon. As to my knowledge Steemit is the only app on the Steem network that currently shows a flag.

thank you!

Upped Bro!!

the only thing can be improved that is not yet mentioned is the tag thing!!

@alokkoshal

If I tag you somewhere you will not get notified by steemit.

you'll be notified for this as I have commented on your post

Good one... The core members will note it

This post received a 3.2% upvote from @randowhale thanks to @alokkoshal! For more information, click here!

Thanks I hope its beneficial :/

And here is how I think it can be improved. Used to run and then own an online forum and I did so quite successfully. At the moment my understanding is that a post is pushed down by all posts after that in all sections. And those with the biggest followings get more views and upvotes. That is great and there is nothing wrong with that. However with so many steemiteers now posts barely have a few minutes before they go into the oblivion and never be seen again. Especially for minnows without a huge following.

What I would love to see is posts pushed back up to the top whenever someone comments on them. Not just an upvote... but a comment. I believe that is a fair and justified way to reward a post when it is good enough for people to make the effort to reply to it.

What do you think?

I would strongly support this!
In the end upvotes, as the system works currently, are the wrong metrics to determine the quality of the post. If the stated goal of steemit.com is to get quality content to float to the top I think it is failing miserably currently... it is a complete lottery so far.

Upvoting encourages gaming the system (and can be automated) and will not grow quality content for the steemit.com platform long term.
Also it will simply encourage piling on established authors with auto voting giving them default earning on their post no matter how mediocre their efforts.

At the moment the system is gamed by low effort /massive amounts of posts, with the hope to win the whale and curation lotteries.

Comments are very undervalued currently. And that biases the system against quality thought provoking posts.
Comments should be determining post earnings alot more than upvotes. Because they can't be automated as much as upvotes, it keeps people from gaming the system.

Because comments and then especially the amount of subcomments by different people will signal value much better than upvotes.
I would even square the weight if there are more sub-commenters on the comments (not made by the original poster) then you know you have an engaging post which has generated some kind of discussion.
(Of course flame wars should not be rewarded in this way, dunno how to account for that but I guess the flagging system would kick in)

For the curation system, I would combine the first upvote with the first comment to determine the curation rewards. If you find supposedly good content but are not even bothering to give it a comment, that sounds fishy to me!

Thank you for your support. And you are right, comments by the original poster should not be counted. That is kind of like steempower rich people upvoting their own posts. I still love the upvoting system, it makes things quite exciting.

Ye your reference to the whale lottery. As a minnow I see no way of doing that. It feels like trying to get rich in Vegas by owning casinos by going up against what is already there. Do you know what I mean?

I consider it growing pains, it will hopefully work out in the end. They are at least experimenting often which is important.
The frustrating bit is that I earned 22 SBD on a quick comment on an interesting thread on HF19, which is more than my 13 long form posts earned put together.
They had lots of comments by people who took time to read it.

It makes the whole system less interesting if your earnings depend more on luck than effort. If I would be a cynical person I'd give up on long form posts and just go whale fishing, following their comments and reply in the hope to provoke a massive upvote.

That would be a very big waste of time for me though and would take a lot of the fun out of it. At the moment I have the most fun ever in social media writing ideas and interacting with commenters.
But if things don't improve in a few months I am going shopping around for other platforms. Steemit.com will not be the only game in town for long... you can count on that.

I agree.... and I feel it check out my profile and follow if you think I deserve it. I made that many posts and made very little steem dollars. I got myself caught up in going for the steem. But in the end I am going to do what I love instead. I love writing and interacting and this place is better than Facebook. But yes I get it, if upvotes are what it is about, it is hard to not act with a vested interest. I wrote this not long ago. I meant it, and it got bugger all viewings.... It is a lost post already lol.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@yoda1917/the-purpose-of-steemit-i-have-finally-worked-it-out

already following, mu policy is to follow people I interact with through good comments, you already qualified! If you want to earn more, check out my comment challenge, I have 5 posts where you can earn 5 SBD as the best commenter. So far it is up for grabs, some posts still have no comments!!! https://steemit.com/minnowsupportproject/@the-traveller/127-followers-already-rewarding-followers-prizes-for-the-best-comments

Alright I will thanks

Good suggestion....

Any chance that can happen? It kept people motivated on my forums. And it is an extra incentive to put out good content and generate discussion.

Yes certainly it can be in near future

My opinions:

  1. More notifications, maybe separated into different categories: Upvote notification, Resteem notification, Follow notification, but allow them to all be turned off.
  2. When you check a person's profile, it should let you know whether or not they follow you.
  3. Resteem count on posts

Only By This Three options:-
1)Always reply on your comments and comments on others post as much as possible.
2)Create Good Content which readers get interested.
3)Chat in Steemit.chat and made many friends.

Improvements in steemit ... ;)

Integrate Steemit and Steemit Chat more, kind of like how Facebook lets you chat while doing everything else.

Good one, resteeming will make you eligible :)

Thanks (: Done!

It would be nice to have an integrated chat feature. As steemit grows I think the possibility of trolls will also increase. If there is a way to block them from harassing us that would be a nice feature.

Yes certainly.... :)

Ad maybe also so animation for photos.. like a slideshow.. or even a video feature would be nice.. presently the only way to upload a video is by first uploading it on youtube and then posting the link here..

True.... I don't prefer uploading videos on YouTube :)

They need to automate new account validation so that people don't get frustrated waiting to join. I can understand that they need to reduce fake accounts, but Steemit needs a lot more users to be taken seriously.

Yes... Certainly.... My special one is still waiting for confirmation but didn't got it... 1 mnth still no mail

I know someone whose husband is waiting to join. I wonder how big the backlog is now

Resteeming post is a condition to win :)

I'm happy to let someone else win anyway

Ok thnks for stopping by and sharing ur thoughts :)

I've re-steemed anyway. Got some good comments here

Thanks sir.... I appreciate your generosity

I'll resteem this post. BUt can someone tell me how to do that? I don't want to plagarise by accident and get a Cheetah on my back lol.

Just below upvoting symbol An arrow going from right to left and thn up and right again... Click on it and thn ok

I upvoted already but I don;t see any arrow under it

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Looks a bit like this hehe

Not trying to be a pain but I really don't see it. Can you show me a screen shot?

Maybe there is some problem I'll check out

yes please. Let me know what happens

Sure

It is available... Everyone else is doing

Right now needed..scalability, scalability,scalability

Hahaha... Very true :)

thank for the support..

This is all in the hands of the community, We need to provide value to the platform.

agree..!!!

By helping steemers upvote their posts..
By helping each other..

Yeah.... True...

Thanks for agreeing with me..simple but thats true..

Found the resteem function and resteemed. I like your article.

👍

Share you thoughts and be a moral for everyone here.

Lol... Read the question again :)

meep

First thing is by not reducing their SBD if someone have voted for you because I felt that wrong. And 1st day my post received lots of appreciation and $46.07 and it's been 3 days and now my sbd are 42.31. that seems unfair and reducing as well..
2nd thing why people only appreciate on day 1 coz after day 1 I felt that I'm lost. Only 2-3people like ur post who are new and the old steemians don't even like so much not even upvote Nd even I got advice from someone that if I will ask someone to upvote then people will give u a flag to reduce.
That also seems unfair .
And 3rd one is the Steemit chat. I think everybody will suggest for that too
These kind of stuff should be improved for newcomers..

To have the ability to use all of our upvote power on one post if we cared to

I believe this is implemented in HF19, or at least it's now possible to differentiate in the amount of Steem you would like to give.

You need a certain amount of Steem Power to do this.

My account is too small right now, and thus I have to really on other people for information,
so I could be wrong.

A way to cut down on all of the blatant copy/paste from elsewhere would be nice...

wow there are good comments great ideas thats why iam upvoting every one in here

Besides a proper search engine, I would really like to be able to separate blogs. For example I would also like to write in my native language.

But currently I won't because I can't separate my post's in different subject, and otherwise my feed would become cluttered for English only speakers.

Good one

Just keeping increasing your engagement with the community in one or either way.have patience and keep engagement.

I think we need to implement a dark mode to change the background. Night typing in front of a bright white display is horrible! vote to make this happen

Maybe... a better blog editor?

I think we can add a "live" feature to sharing a story. That would add in more people wanting to sign up on the spot.

I mis a good personal chat system