Investigating the competition Part 1 πŸ”Ž Mask Network [TLDR: SCAM!]

in ausbitundercover β€’Β  8 years agoΒ  (edited)

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So the owner went straight from replying here, to pushing through my single payment the exchange manually (and not others), and then posted about it on the site. Takes quotes completely out of context and shows a complete lack of reading comprehension, and the echo chamber votes him up.

This whole thing is a fascinating look at psychology and group-think.

Sounds about like how the major countries are ran at the moment. :)

Wonderful write up! Thank you for taking the time, and the money, to check out the other sites around our community. Its a great asset to know first hand which sites are excelling at what it is that they do. It sucks that you lost $8, but this post here surely makes up for it!

Your article is clearly written with a wonderful format that allows readers to easily take in the information you have presented. Thank you sharing this pertinent information with our community.

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These transaction costs apply to EVERYTHING.

Weird, I was expecting that from Yours Network since they use bitcoin.. why so many fees with a new currency?

What gets me is the ongoing rental fees for basic things. Seems like basic fundraising tactics to have users constantly burning their coin on features that have no ongoing processing cost (like making a new address).

Nice write up, glad to see your using the status tool!

Thanks Kurt , although seeing it in action is kinda triggering my ocd with the blue link thats not a link.
I would much prefer if it could be balanced a little better like:

Powered by steempixel.com | Vests 1337 | Created etc timestamp etc

Sort that minor annoyance out and I'll make the signature a link to steempixel.com wherever I use it ;)

haha glad I'm not the only one thinking that about the blue non-link ;)

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The Steemit Spy Net has been established. SteemSpyNet

Oo I like it

Ok Mr. Bond )))

You are doing a good job there

Thanks @serejandmyself :D

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Hmm... Where to begin. Ok well some of what you say has no meaning. No crypto currency is written in php.... facepalm The reason everything costs mask is so ot shows up on the blockchain that is how it works. Every actio. Is recorded on the block chain so obviously to appear there , there must be a charge made. Im not very impressed with mask network either. Most of their stuff soesnt work and glitches. I cant even change my address name like you could. I also bought some mask and they were wuick to get back to me like 6 hours. Then i waited 4 days !!! 4 @#$%ing days !! The onpg reason they got back to me was because i sent 6 tweets on their wall asking wtf is going on amd i pm the dev twice on bitcointalk as well as post on each of their forums. Finally the next day i fet a message saging i got my money. They never even opologised. So yes masknetwork is crap. Dunno about a scam but certainly it is shit. I was very pissed off. Best thong to do is blow up their spcial media pages ehich i will do again of they mess me around more. Good article. Will follow and keep up with you.

Where to begin indeed.

Some of what you say has no meaning. No crypto currency is written in php facepalm

If you read the words around PHP in the post you'll see the lead developer saying he used php . Or the screenshot of the PHP error I encountered that would confirm that reality.

Every actio. Is recorded on the block chain so obviously to appear there , there must be a charge made.

Every action is recorded on the blockchain in steem too, without constantly asking the user for money or requiring the user to buy-in . The added element of repeated costs over time makes the masknetwork user have to actually budget over time for even simple things like following somebody.

i fet a message saging i got my money

Sorry to hear you got burned too, did they actually send you the mask coin or refund your btc ? (Or just message about it)

Best thong to do is blow up their spcial media pages ehich i will do again of they mess me around more.

"more" - are you still using masknetwork ?

Good article. Will follow and keep up with you.

Your feedback is inconsistent , and you facepalmed me because you got confused again. Will you turn randomly hostile on me too if you can't understand how replies work ?

A web node has 3 components.

  1. A java module that maintain the connectivity to the network and does all the "ugly stuff" like encryption, message signing and so on.

  2. The database (it can be mysql, oracle ...). The database stores all the blockchain data and acts as link between the java node and the web interface.

  3. The web interface written in PHP. The interface uses the db to communicate with java node. It's just the frontend.

In cocnclussion masknetwork is written in java but uses php for the frontend. It's a very flexible architecture. We made tests where the web interface was hosted on a server, the db on another and the java node on yet another server.

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Yes thank you. Someone who knows what is going on.

You seem to think i didnt already understand this, reread my responses were saying the same thing, except your being a condescending dickhead.

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Php is for websites not wallets. That error has nothong to do with how the wallet is programs. Omg.

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No i face palmed you because you think a currency is written in php. I did read amd he clearly says java. Php is for the output. Obviously you cant wrote a fork and node in php. Most use c++ I think you can use java bit he is talking about a java kernal. This display error just means the target can ot be found in the specific directory. You see thst error alot when you stsrt making website interfaces. For a normal page you will just use .html not .php so if you want to use an api you have to have a .php

He uses php, java and mysql together - and the website IS the wallet.

Its also far from the first currency written in php, see neoscoin for a 2014 php-only coin.

Ive been coding since I was a kid and have read the source code of at least dozens if not hundreds of shitcoins.

I have more trouble decyphering your responses, then the php error. If this isnt a language barrier could you try reading your own responses first because this is painful to read, and after looking at your comment history it doesnt get better..

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The best bit about Steem WP is the part about how they got around to charging processing fees for any interaction with the blockchain. That part in itself is pretty revolutionary!

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Fortunately your scam arguments are so weak, you did masknetwork a service writing this article. You have spotted some bugs in a beta stage product. Scam and bugs are 2 different things.

I have never dreamed that a 2 weeks project will attract the attention of a huge community like steemit and making a lot of money. Anyway, thanks for this article. It's a boost for masknetwork. You have presented step by step how easy is to use the interface and some really cool concepts like MaskNetwork Scripting Language (MSL).

Every article involving MSL mentioned that is an assembly-like low level language. But it allows you to do a lot of interesting stuff like a dice game in 110 lines of code.

And if an app is upvoted, the owner is rewarded.

I will write a series of articles in the future presenting masknetwork step by step. Right now it's the only true contender for steem.

So are you the lead/only developer or just someone here to shill masknetwork ?

Its a little hard to make a detailed argument for or against it being a scam when its so buggy I can't test any of the features. But straight stealing my money and refusing to respond across multiple channels seems like a pretty scammy thing to do.

If you are the owner, you look even worse for coming here and trying to defend your tactics instead of FIXING THE PROBLEM being complained about by multiple people on your own site.

Also, you're delusional to think this is even remotely close to a serious contender for steem.
I actually chose to feature masknetwork first because its the LEAST likely contender by far, and would be "easy" to make it look pathetic for my first post in this series.

Masknetwork and its developers have been completely unprofessional in every aspect that I've investigated so far.
Thanks for dropping by! Now ..

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If its a scam its a pretty crappy one. Also you should be the last person talking about shilling.....

I agree its pretty crap, and what .. Im a shill because?
So far your comments have been completely useless lets see if you have a point ..

Upped and followed!

Hmm. Consensus is pretty much that steemit is a scam, with 100% inflation per year, and doesn't let you cash out quickly. Those are what I call solid arguments. Your arguments however are weak. I bought mask coin and it processed just fine. And it has dapps. I think both claims are BS, just different models.

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