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Still suspect I'd say. HRC lost in no small part for lack of vision. So after she helped elect Trump via HRC/DNC "pied piper" strategy elevating him in primaries she perhaps is rationally trying to rebrand as having some deeper vision than she chose to run on her second time at bat.

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They're all the same. They all have an epiphany after they've had their chance to implement it. It's easy for them to make bold pronouncements when they don't have to risk putting their head on the chopping block.

precisely

Thank you for publishing this topic and also the clipping!

The concept of a Guaranteed Basic Income I got to know in 2006 the first time and it never left me again. I started a special blog in 2008 - writing over 100 articles just about this topic. I got excited because my blog was well visited and I remember vividly the first day I got 700 readers.

Eventually I stopped blogging for I ran out of headlines and content. It is all in German. I give you the link - and hope you don't mind - most people I guess, cannot read it:

https://bedingungslosesgrundeinkommen.wordpress.com/

Here in Germany the politicians on top mostly ignore the topic although the citizens did a huge amount of work on it and it entered also partly the program of the political parties. Our election this year offered the opportunity to even vote for a new party with this single topic.

So there is a lot going on. The biggest movement is though in Switzerland. The best known figure is "Daniel Häni" when it comes to Public Relations- he has a huge "fan base" as well. I can give you a lot more information if you are interested.

They actually got 23 % for their application that the basic income should be a referendum (Switzerland). Which is quite impressive for the first run. There will for sure be more.

Sounds encouraging, hopefully we can abolish poverty someday.

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I do own the domain name basicincometoken.org

kind of long though??

Yes but look at 'basicattentiontoken.org'

looks interesting will have to read white paper at some point. Thanks!!

nice snatch.

Government takes money out of the economy, squanders most of it, and then redistributes the dregs to buy more power.

Trickle-down economics, anyone? No thanks.

Anything being endorsed by someone who both has ties to George Soros and the illuminati is automatically suspect.

Good post. Universal basic income is an interesting idea. It can certainly remove stress from families struggling to get enough money to put food on the table. Then again, I would not want this to be a step towards socialism.

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Lol. I find great irony in billionaire capitalists "supporting" UBI. It is completely contrary to what they actually have practiced in life. As someone who grew up poor and who has had their fair share of struggle in life. I can say that I could never support UBI as a serious solution to the poverty issues our world faces.

great irony in billionaire capitalists "supporting" UBI.

excellent observation... and one more reason to reject it

While I imagine the proportion of billionaire capitalists who are awake enough to realise that capitalism will quickly fail without a cashed up consumer class is pretty small, it's not really a surprise to find one or two of them who have worked it out.

given free stuff with no strings attached ? Honest guv'nor. lmfao.

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basic income will lead to the hunger game society, who and what will determine the income.... if somebody used to earn 5K monthly and loses his jobs to robots... UBI will not fill the gap

it is also irrational that the tiny top owns most of the world wealth, which they obtained with the manipulation of boom-busts cycles, and that nothing is done about it. Wall street is a legalized scam because if that. Too many insiders. It is easy to control the money supply with interest rates. So, indeed what to expect from UBI... just think Orwell's 1984

I started a movement for a money-free and futuristic society. 5000 years that the elites fiddle with money at the expenses of the populaces, and it is enough to thrown in the towel. Money is meant to enslave

Quantum computing will end crypto currencies, I wrote several blogs about it. Nothing lasts forever. Materialism is meant to be overcome because it is an metaphysical illusion

i believe ubincome to be immoral unless the income is created by robots. universal basic income in a fiat state is a very bad idea.

...or canibalizing other important programs..

Like the ridiculous military budget...

So, who pays for Basic Income? Likely taxes on your Steem profits will cover it.

Earth Dollar is an interesting model - and even Hilary's take addresses the concept - based on the Natural Capital Accounting system, in which value is assigned to various natural resources - i.e. trees kept from getting cut down, new trees being planted, waters being kept clean, sustainable solutions implemented - which are then utilized as backing assets for the currency (i.e. the Earth Dollar, in that project's case).

wealth cannot be created nor destroyed, but merely change hands. A major reason as why monetizing nature is monetizing life and humans. The best is to get rid of money since. the flaw (quest for profits) is embedded in the premise itself. Bending Natural Law can work for a while but at the expense of everybody.

Changing hands from the rich to the poor, to a just degree, sounds perfectly reasonable (and necessary) to me.