The Thief is back - UNBELIEVABLE - All steem-engine Token creators please watch your tokens!

bengy (73) · 5 years ago

Sigh... There is always one arsehat that ruins the fun for everyone. Eventually they will realise that money isn't everything...

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mermaidvampire (72) · 5 years ago

Ugh, this is really sad. I'm having fun with the Beer token fairdrop, I share it around to people who play my game and to those people who check the Plankton Token which is about small red fishes' community just trying to help each other understand Steemit and have fun. People love getting 1 token as a reward for the interaction and it's really fun because it helps give my token project and my games traction. I even give out Beer token as a prize in my Weekly Trivia Game in Discord. It's one reason people go there and join, to get these rain of little tokens. I am grateful to the token owner of Beer for doing a fairdrop, I have made ways to share it around and it has helped my project.

BEER has been spreading the fun and been useful. The beer token owner is one great guy here in the platform, I am hoping for the best for him in resolving this issue. I hope the person try to get to know him and cooperate, after all, that's what community is about.

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pundito (65) · 5 years ago

Stealing beer should be punished with the death penalty ... and I am totally against the death penalty - but there are limits!
This is an absolute no-go!!!
When offering beer to the whole community by making it available to everybody to give it away to friends ... what an a55hole you must be to say I am my best friend and give as much as possible to myself?!?
This a55hole should be listed on all available blacklist and downvoted by the whole community.

I was told one should always close positively ... so I say (again) thank you to @detlev for this project and the distributed beer!
Keep on the good work and try to keep the a55holes out.

STEEM ON!!!

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

!BEER for pundito

Message to me: Don‘t just do Post when not really awake!

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Let’s see if this works again after the first little fix

!BEER

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Ok, let’s see

!BEER

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

You cannot sent token to yourself.

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

Sorry, out of BEER, please retry later...

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

^{To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com.}

Hey @pundito, here is your BEER token. Enjoy it!

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bashadow (65) · 5 years ago

I still have my beer, it is still safe and locked away, for the person exploiting a loop hole or a fair air drop, exploitation is still a crime and using exploitation of rules to comment a crime is still a criminal activity. Ask any of the three or four people that have ever gone to jail for insider trading, they exploited a loop hole got busted and served time.

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

All your BEER dear @bashadow is safe!

And even better, you get another one soon.

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bashadow (65) · 5 years ago

well thanks, one day I may get up to a six pack. Not that I can drink that much any more, but still it is nice for those emergency days.

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4 votes

crypticat (70) · 5 years ago

I once 'stole' a beer from my dad, he never found out and it was delicious. Jacking community tokens is traceable and not worth the reputation damage. Whoever did this should be ashamed of themselves.

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

One beer is fine, I even send 10 beer or more to anyone who help to prevent something.

amico (66) · 5 years ago

To prevent this issue, it would be good to limit (f)airdropping one BEER/day/user... right? (I don’t know S-E tech implications)

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Sadly, exact that will come and some more.

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kus-knee (74) · 5 years ago

Terrible news. Such a fun project and some jerk wants to wreck it. for what?

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

only for being hated by the community.

Due this reason I like to wait if we get back what was "stolen" before naming people

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amico (66) · 5 years ago

He’s for sure a poor miserable! 😭

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revisesociology (73) · 5 years ago (edited)

For the lulz of course - it's probably a chan clique co-ordinating most of the shit like this on the Steem blockchain.

There'll be bragging going on about it somewhere.

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ericet (75) · 5 years ago

So if you have 600 beer, you can airdrop 100 beer per account per day?
If someone transfers the 600 beer to another account after reach the daily limit, he will get another 100 beer?
I think in this case, you better ask them to stake the beer to airdrop.

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Good idea - will see how fast we can activate staking to prevent something like this.

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ericet (75) · 5 years ago

Do you have a blacklist? Add the accounts to the blacklist to resolve this issue temporarily

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amico (66) · 5 years ago

That’s another good idea! 👍🏼

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

this well known user has around 1000-2000 accounts......

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ericet (75) · 5 years ago

That’s crazy!

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Yeah, but again something we don’t wanted to learn.

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wakeupkitty (76) · 5 years ago

1000-2000 accounts?

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enm1 (55) · 5 years ago

What!

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artgirl (66) · 5 years ago

Whoa that's a lot!

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hans001 (57) · 5 years ago

Well having that amounts of accounts sounds like a bot army for exploitation of the games and the steempool.

With money involved people even best friends are getting corrupted and laugh about it.

A company ahh the boss well he has enough money. I want more deserve more etc or yeah well I can talk for hours instead of working. It's too hot I won't work oh but I want the hours paid from just sitting down instead of working.

Money corrupts not dealing with that is like leaving your wallet in the front of your car with the door open with a few hundred euro hanging out.

Take money out of the game you will be left with greed. I am allone the wife of the neighbour is better then mine lets get this wife. Even if everybody has everything in abundance.

Humans and utopia is not possible.

If someone has 1000 accounts he created them with a purpose.

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kus-knee (74) · 5 years ago

Good idea!

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amico (66) · 5 years ago

What about enabling (f)airdrop limit to one BEER a day from a user to a user?

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definethedollar (67) · 5 years ago

Another sad day in beerland...and for all of Steemia. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. I think we as a Steem community should band together to do something about this “gentleman”...unfortunately, it seems this shows a bit of a flaw in the Steem reputation system when we really don’t have much recourse against him...even if we drive his rep negative, he’ll counterattack and/or just pop up in another of thousands of accounts.
!BEER

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fraenk (62) · 5 years ago

so how exactly did someone "steal" these tokens?!

how is that even possible... did they have access to someone else's private key or what was going on?!?

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ackza (72) · 5 years ago

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fraenk (62) · 5 years ago

oh ok... now I get it... someone just "printed" more tokens than acceptable by "community standards"...

well... I think @beerlover really deserves a dramatoken for this FUD

kus-knee (74) · 5 years ago

If you know the mechanism maybe you know the solution. How can @beerlover stop it?

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ackza (72) · 5 years ago

You cant stop it, you cant just expect people to just ahdere to your honor system?
Imagine someone in some poor country and they have no skills but they see theres beer token they can take, to them the fact that you havent secure those tokens down is all the proof they need that they need that money more than you.. its not right but its how they will justify it so dont expect people to just respect your opened door and unlocked safe full of money ....

its called the tragedy of the commons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users, acting independently according to their own self-interest, behave contrary to the common good of all users, by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action. The theory originated in an essay written in 1833 by the British economist William Forster Lloyd, who used a hypothetical example of the effects of unregulated grazing on common land (also known as a "common") in Great Britain and Ireland.[1] The concept became widely known as the "tragedy of the commons" over a century later due to an article written by the American ecologist and philosopher Garrett Hardin in 1968.[2] In this modern economic context, commons is taken to mean any shared and unregulated resource such as atmosphere, oceans, rivers, fish stocks, roads and highways, or even an office refrigerator.

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5 votes

artgirl (66) · 5 years ago

Whoa... I'm thinking this is what China is doing to PH waters... Hmmm. 🤔🤔🤔

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wikitextbot (46) · 5 years ago

Tragedy of the commons
The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users, acting independently according to their own self-interest, behave contrary to the common good of all users, by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action. The theory originated in an essay written in 1833 by the British economist William Forster Lloyd, who used a hypothetical example of the effects of unregulated grazing on common land (also known as a "common") in Great Britain and Ireland. The concept became widely known as the "tragedy of the commons" over a century later due to an article written by the American ecologist and philosopher Garrett Hardin in 1968. In this modern economic context, commons is taken to mean any shared and unregulated resource such as atmosphere, oceans, rivers, fish stocks, roads and highways, or even an office refrigerator.

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kus-knee (74) · 5 years ago

I'm sure they'll do something to safeguard the fridge!

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

he is working on this.

But this means more limitations for all.

SAD

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

that is for sure in some way "stealing"

At least as the rest of the community can't use that tokens for the fun they have with it

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ackza (72) · 5 years ago (edited)

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

No, not all tokens are unsafe, only token using the same mechanism to airdrop might have a similar issue.

We had this with a few token some weeks ago, so I though some noise might help.

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vlemon (76) · 5 years ago

How is that even possible ? And it happened before !? Crazy

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

Long story - mainly misuse of our airdrop.

Will give that people some time to send it back, before we have act in a different way.

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jarvie (70) · 5 years ago

Yeah how is it possible? I wonder if it was because they abused this airdrop mechanism??

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elikast (66) · 5 years ago

Nooooo... I can't believe! I'm sorry! ☹️

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fredkese (69) · 5 years ago

Thought you had worked on it. You need to reach out to devs for help if they aren't coming to you

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago (edited)

The solution will be to buy staking for the coin. If someone had 1000+ accounts a blacklist is not so easy.

we just need to find a way to get the funds for this

Means 1000 ENG or 350€ - wich is a lot for a fun project.

any ideas??

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fredkese (69) · 5 years ago

None yet

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enm1 (55) · 5 years ago

Crowdfunding or donation

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Never though this way.

But why not.

Everyone who send an amount of steem to @beerlover gets the equivalent of beer back. So we may get the 1000 ENG together together.

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fraenk (62) · 5 years ago

EVIL THIEVES

I left some money on the street... the next day I cam back and it was gone... these bloody evil thieves ruining the fun for everyone else...

lel

!dramatoken

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maruskina (59) · 5 years ago

Noooo 😭😭😭
!dramatoken

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jonsnow1983 (67) · 5 years ago

Fucking cunt, give us our beer at once!

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jsantana (70) · 5 years ago

I strong support the @beerlover community. I wait help more in the iniciatives, count on me!😁🍻🇧🇷

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happyme (68) · 5 years ago

So sorry; I have no programming knowledge at all.

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karinxxl (68) · 5 years ago

that totally sucks because the token is such fun and just a social thing....blehhhhh!!!

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isarmoewe (64) · 5 years ago

That's sad news. :(

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

Such a shame that people spoil things like this. It's not like the tokens are super valuable. It's meant to be fun. Hope you can get it back, but feel free to take measures to prevent it happening again

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jadams2k18 (64) · 5 years ago

Can't you see where those tokens were transferred to? 👀

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

sure, we know who did this and we even know much more.

But first we like to see if the tokes are coming back

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wakeupkitty (76) · 5 years ago

If not, shouting out loud the thief's name?!

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

I did it different by talking to him on the diplomatic way. We arranged that with some help and I think this was smart as he paid back.

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wakeupkitty (76) · 5 years ago

Also interesting to know is why.he did it and who is next.
Well happy the beer is back. Hope to.be back too before Saturday 💕

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jadams2k18 (64) · 5 years ago

I hope he/she send the tokens back 😪

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

he/she did and there is again !BEER available

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jadams2k18 (64) · 5 years ago

That's good news! Let's cheer for the good attitude and having shown the bugs of the system

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kadna (69) · 5 years ago

Das ist wirklich traurig. Es ist bestimmt jemand, der keine Gemeinschaft kennt und im Grunde nur neidisch ist. Ein bedauernswerter Mensch... So eine tolle Idee und dann immer wieder ein Bein gestellt zu bekommen, ist hart. Der Kaffee ist auch aus, sonst könnte ich einen Trost !COFFEEA ausgeben...

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chireerocks (72) · 5 years ago

@beerlover, I don't know what happened, if it's stealing then it's unfortunate aspect.

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akdx (66) · 5 years ago

I wanna dozens of cans of chilled beer!

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

Sorry, out of BEER, please retry later...

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abitcoinskeptic (73) · 5 years ago

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Better now !BEER

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

^{To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com.}

Hey @abitcoinskeptic, here is your BEER token. Enjoy it!

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ervin-lemark (71) · 5 years ago (edited)

I feel with you. So much that I will open a real beer :)

I do hope that everything gets back to normal, with some safety measures in place, and that we will enjoy our !BEER

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Sure, it will just take a davor two

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

Sorry, out of BEER, please retry later...

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phoenixwren (65) · 5 years ago

I don't understand people who get their jollies from being dickheads.

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automation (47) · 5 years ago

Nein, ich habe gesagt, dass ich nicht zur Schule gehe.

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

sure, master bot school sounds fine for me

automation (47) · 5 years ago

If he loved you with all of the power of his soul for a whole lifetime.

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wakeupkitty (76) · 5 years ago

I am not such a smart girl ☹ so I will spread the news and hope help is on the way. For sure there are people who can give a hand.

If not we it is the end, we get drunk and raise a fund 🤑

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enginewitty (72) · 5 years ago

Must have been thirsty😂🍻

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bluengel (76) · 5 years ago

OMG !
it happened againg what a pathetic thief :(

wanna Fresh BEER !

wish soon will return and get fresh back again !

next time Keep in Safe Refrigerator !BEER 💙

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

Sorry, you don't have enough BEER in your account. You need 10 BEER in your virtual fridge to give some of your BEER to others. To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com

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sunlit7 (59) · 5 years ago

So the names on the link are names the person is using to do this?

Does/has anyone else recently had a message pop up when putting Steemit in their brower that says Cloud Flare is checking your browsers before accessing Steemit Inc, you will be redirected back to the site in five seconds? I've never had that happening before but it's been going on for over a week. I usually click off then keep trying until I don't get that message, basically because anyone can buy Cloud Flare authentication so I am not sure what's really going on with that, I don't know if it's google, if it's steemit or if it's some one else checking and redirecting.

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donald.porter (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

That’s steemit’s ddos protection, it helps stop attacks on the website.

CloudFlare should be perfectly safe but always check for a 🔒 lock symbol next to the url and it contains ‘https://‘ in your browser.

sunlit7 (59) · 5 years ago

I appreciate your reply as I said I had never had that happen until the last couple weeks. I don't remember seeing any announcement that Steemit was going to using Cloud Flare, I looked up what it was and there has been some questionable business practices of not being careful who they sell their authentication services with. I didn't know who to really ask, after it irritated me for a bit longer I was finally going to cave and call my internet security program people and ask them if they knew...that usually entails being on the phone for a hour with them which you wouldn't think I'd hesitant to do as by the time they are done I am much more up to speed and things are ticking much better it's just the time commitment, especially if they do find something wrong that hour could stretch.

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donald.porter (65) · 5 years ago

That’s kl, I understand but you can always google it if in doubt. Better safe than sorry

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donald.porter (65) · 5 years ago

Uh oh... we should ALL be taking this seriously 😡

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

at least a little bit please.

Let's see if the "so called thief" will send it back?

blacklux (67) · 5 years ago

Oh wow, this sucks! I hope the beeeep returns the tokens!

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coffeea.token (57) · 5 years ago

You need to own more COFFEEA (5 COFFEEA in your wallet allows you to send 1 TOKEN per day)

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itharagaian (64) · 5 years ago

Don't take this bad or personnally, but if I understood correctly :

1 - You made a (f)airdrop
2 - someone used an exploit to empty to pool to himself
3- time passes
4- You do a new (f)airdrop without fixing the bot
5- The same guy comes back ?

I think I can predict that if you do another (f)airdrop without fixing the bot, it will happen again, and, unless the guy refunded the taken away beers the first time, what makes you think he will give them back this time?

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Bot was fixed before as we have some leftovers from our brain 🧠 ;-)

We fix this wholes again before we add more tokens to beerlover.

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itharagaian (64) · 5 years ago

Ho nice, thank you for answering.
So the same game used 2 different exploits. Good luck in fixing it.

and did he refund first time?

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

He refund more or less both.

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itharagaian (64) · 5 years ago

!BEER for you then ;)

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

^{To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com.}

Hey @detlev, here is your BEER token. Enjoy it!

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yonilkar (64) · 5 years ago

Oh my dear what's going on?

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abitcoinskeptic (73) · 5 years ago

Oh no this is terrible. Taking a couple beers to drink it is somewhat understandable, especially if you return the favor. I am here to help those people. But stealing beer to sell it is sad and mean.

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isnochys (66) · 5 years ago

!drama

Prepare !popcorn

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popcornexpress (58) · 5 years ago

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dramatoken (62) · 5 years ago

Here's your DRAMA. Don't spend it all in one place!

^{To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.}

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jurich60 (64) · 5 years ago

oh my! that itchy hands of him/her. Whoever you are, return the beers, it belongs to the community...

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otom (60) · 5 years ago

so sad my first time being with you @ beerlover and was wondering why you run out of beer.

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artgirl (66) · 5 years ago

Oh my. No wonder I was wondering where my other BEER went. I know I had some before I got the latest one from Beersaturday. It just goes to show the thief loves alcohol and fun that they're trying to ruin it for everyone and taking it too seriously. Tsk.

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cleverbot (54) · 5 years ago

Ich bin ein mensch. Ich bin einen mann.

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dramatoken (62) · 5 years ago

You've got DRAMA. You are going to be a Whale!

^{To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.}

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arcange (73) · 5 years ago (edited)

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lordvdr (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

That's terrible. I have had an experience recently where one person's actions degraded the fun had by everyone else. It is not cool.
Thanks for letting us know about it.

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genuino1980 (52) · 5 years ago

Stealing beer is a serious crime 😡 The person in charge deserves 10 years in the cool of the prison🥶 I hope the damage is immediately compensated. Damn assholes🤬

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rentmoney (68) · 5 years ago

If currency is to be made or won then someone will always try to take advantage. Limit the beer to 1 a day per 100. The free 24 idea for purchasing one was a great way to drop some as well.

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drago18121996 (68) · 5 years ago

Loving beer means living life!

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beerlover (62) · 5 years ago

After all that hustle we are back on track and love to do next steps.

So, we call for a Crowdfunding / Crowdsale to grew the BEER token with Staking and Proof of Stake.

See more at https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@beerlover/let-s-grow-and-update-the-beer-token-huge-crowndfunding-as-crowdsale

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

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6 votes

detlev (73) · 5 years ago

we work on this and you are not on our blacklist!

I guess you enjoy black english humor!

amico (66) · 5 years ago

LOL 😂

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

Was it nog again?
How was it taking, through the misuse of your bot?

If so, an unrestricted comment bot isn't a very good distribution method.

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detlev (73) · 5 years ago

Hi @themarkymark

he paid the 1400 BEER back and (f)airdrop is working again.

We already made some changes and we will do a crowdfunding campaign for getting Staking and maybe as well inflation active for the BEER.

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