How post payouts are affecting bid bots ROI

in bid-bots •  6 years ago 

Today I had a long conversation with @brandonfrye as to why 10% ROI is not really 10%, but way less. Since I already ran the numbers, I thought, I will share those with my readers as well and make a few cents out of it too.

The way post payout used to work was, you get 50% in SBD and 50% in STEEM, but if you have noticed, that has changed since last month. That is because of dept ratio. When it crosses 3.5%, steem reduces the number of SBD printed and gives out part of the reward in liquid steem. As of right now, SBD print rate is at 62%, which means you will receive 31% (52*.62) in SBD, 19% in STEEM and 50% in SP. SBD is always treated as 1$ value by the system, irrespective of its actual value, but when it comes to steem, it is awarded based on price. Because of this, we are getting less money then expected.

This is an analysis I did on one of the posts that was voted at 10% ROI but in fact, it is below 3% ROI. That is the reason I have stopped using bid bots for now. I use it in a very narrow scenario, and if you have read my other posts, you would already know.

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Having said all that, I do want to give a shoutout to @therealwolf 's @smartsteem and @smartmarket bots. They have modified their formula to take care of this change in post payout. As fas as I know, they are the only one who have made that change. You can read more about it in this post.

https://steemit.com/steem/@smartsteem/important-update-for-smartsteem-com-roi-and-author-payout-calculation

Also, I just noticed that @brandonfrye has updated his minimum ROI to 10% and maximum to 15%. Appreciate his effort to create a fair bot.
I will be using these 3 services until others are fixed.
I will maintain a running list of all the services that fix their bots to reflect new steem payout changes.

Fair bots to use:
@smartsteem
@smartmarket
@brandonfrye

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Great job! Is the Steem Bot tracker website wrong now?

Yes. And the software that bots are using.

It seems like you should be a witness and/or bot operator.

I am long way from either.

Thank you for the information on the fair bidbots I will use them. Also thanks for taking the time to do the deep analysis. I wish I had the time to dig so deep.
Please keep me /us up to date on the bid bot profitability status going forward. Its a great learning tool for the community.

I figured one more thing recently on how to get more roi from price action. Will post that soon.

Ok I will look out for that post.

Thanks so much for sharing this information. I have been looking for this the past few days, but could not find any information regarding the updated payout. Do you by any chance know where such updates are normally announced when there are changes? Thanks.

They are not announced anywhere, you just have to stay on top of these things.

I knew that the numbers looked slightly off but never bothered to actually calculate.

Thanks a lot for sharing this information, this should prove useful to many.

I hope it does.

How is your relationship with Brandon Frye? I heard very mixed things about him and would like to know your opinion.

I like that guy. I watched his videos before joining this platform and even though he doesn't hold lot of SP, he runs contests and allocates some of his SP to minnows.

I saw some videos of him as well and found them decently useful. I may have to look a bit closer into him, thank you.

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Excellent post... I will upvote some of your more recent post since this one already hit payout.

Thnks