The Negative Effects Of High Cryptocurrency Taxes

in bitcoin •  8 years ago 

Recently we have been seeing a few countries like India and Russia debating the way forward for how taxes will actually be calculated for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general. While some have chosen to be more hands off, others have chosen a more aggressive tax policy. The thing is, with cryptocurrency like Bitcoin where the government doesn't know if you own it or not. Economics needs to be used to realistically find out what people would be willing to pay.

In economics there's the idea of tax policy as needing to be handled very softly. Basically there is a point where if you tax too much, people will go to lengths to hide money and not pay at all. So hypothetically if you make the tax lower in some situations, you would actually make more money overall. This type of thought especially needs to be transferred over into tax on cryptocurrency.if it isn't I believe that governments are going to have a bigger problem than expected.

Obviously no one wants to pay taxes, but if we are getting double taxed or going to pay a high capital gains tax no one is actually going to pay. Benjamin franklin said there are only two things certain in life, death and taxes, so it is unrealistic that countries like the United States would ever just completely not tax it. However there is a value to paying taxes , which would be to moving some of your gains to the stock market which is a safer investment over a long period of time. The key is to diversify and not hold all your assets in crypto so if one market is hurting you don't lose everything.

So what options does the government actually have in taxing crypto, or rather what would I recommend they do? First of all if Bitcoin is being used as a currency, in exchange for goods, only sales tax should apply. If money is pulled directly into dollars, pounds, euros ect. Then there should be something like an alternative money tax similar to sales tax. Something like 5-10 percent , no more. If the rate is any higher people will do what they have done since the beginning of modern civilization, hide money.

There is also a possibility that those who don't want to pay a high tax rate, will migrate to other countries in order to pay a lower one. Countries that are tax havens or have very low taxes will benefit with the influx of new money and there will be little that the countries people are leaving can do about it. You're still technically supposed to pay taxes even if you move to another country if you are an American citizen, but with no way of actually enforcing it, it's near impossible to collect. Ultimately they will just be missing out on revenue that could have been made by making a smarter long term decision.

After all is said, no matter how you feel about taxes , even though they could definitely be appropriated better. There is a marginal benefit to them SOMETIMES. However countries that don't adapt to lower tax plans for crypto will soon find out what happens.

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I believe it is in the best interest of all cryptocurrency holders and investors to proactively resist any sort of taxation. Cryptocurrencies were developed as a way to decentralize money and blockchain technology makes it possible to bypass or render unnecessary many of the state functions that taxation supports. If crypto is to be the future of money, it must not be taxed. Otherwise, the future is no different from the present.

couldn't agree more.

Taxation Is Theft.

What's the government going to do with all that tax revenue? Sell it straight back into fiat and create a downward pressure on prices?

I support voluntary taxation

At that point it isn't theft, but you wouldn't really call it taxation either.

Taxation should be abolished in all forms in all locales just like slavery,

Currently cryptocurrency is being used by early adopters and techies. Also, in New Zealand, at least, Bitcoin is still seen as being used only by criminals, and 90% of people I talk to outside the blockchain space have never heard about "blockchain". (People have to be careful about living in an echo chamber.) If cryptocurrency is going to enter mainstream, ie the average person using it and most businesses accepting it, and more importantly the government accepting it, ie to pay taxes etc, things will need to change. Part of that change will include taxes. I agree that if they are set too high people will be encouraged to hide their cryptocurrencies - better to have a low tax which most people will pay rather than a higher tax which most people will attempt to evade.

When the currencies they are taxing us in become obsolete and hyperinflation takes over, we will be having the last laugh, because modern day currencies will be no longer.

That's an interesting topic. But it would be very difficult to tax it in my country Nigeria.

Thank you for bringing this up....much debate is taking place at high levels about all of this. Maybe a new way of taxing is appropriate like a sales Value added tax on all you purchase. I say this because power or govt will wan taxation, that will never change .

Initially Indian government came up with a statement stating use of Bitcoin is illegal in India since it is not governed by India's central bank RBI. But after a lot of criticism from public they decided to take public's opinion on this matter. According to one of the country's app based bitcoin exchange company they are adding 2,500 users per day. So, now the government is planning to have some kind of regulations on crytptocurrencies. In my opinion it shouldn't be under any regulations since the fundamental of cryptos is its de-centralized system.

Good news, you cant force a decentralized system to pretend to be centralized.

Agreed

It is time to create some crypto Financial paradise.

Nice one

What would they be taxing? Capital gains? But that would be like taxing dollars versus euros if dollars was more than euros at the time of exchange. A minimal transaction tax might work. Just to let them get a piece of the pie and get off our backs. Throw the dog a bone.

The problem with this logic is once this dog gets a taste of your bones, it wants the whole skeleton.

That can be a problem. Especially for wild species.

Just had this discussion the other day, and how removal of capital gains taxes is the key to everything. It can be done state by state.