@haejin EXCEEDS 11,200 FOLLOWERS!!! THIS PROVES People Follow for GOOD CONTENT NOT BAD CONTENT!!!

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THANK YOU!! I know many have made MASSIVE profits and LEARNED much about Technical Analysis of Cryptos from my analysis. The aim of my blog is to help and do no harm and I see no better way to help than show, teach and mentor everyday Steemians on HOW to analyze, HOW to buy, HOW to SELL and HOW to PROFIT!! I can either teach you to FISH on your own or spoon feed analysis.....I know that ALL prefer the FIRST!!

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Have you noticed how your post is still visible at ~$1.00?

That's because responsible people can differentiate between disagreement on reward and censorship.

I know you may have been victim of censorship first but it's not a reason to retaliate with more.

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percentage of true followers to total followers by @berniesanders looks ahead by 10%!
compared to @haejin
And our percentage beat them both. haha

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How about the real numbers. Not everybody posts. Mass media tactics always with you.....
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Do you even understand what this means on this site? @berniesanders didnt talk he posted a picture and a link.

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did you check the list?
try to answere your own question.

What a milestone. Congrats to haejin.

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What harm has he done exactly?

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https://steemworld.org/@haejin, scroll down past the first section, filter on out. Look at the past few days. Red arrows pointing right = a flag from him. Expand the posts he has flagged and investigate whether or not you believe they should have been flagged. I can see some good reason for him flagging some of them, but not most of them. But I could be wrong. Take a gander yourself. Let me know what you think.

This isn't a haejin problem though, it's a steem problem. Look at my replies dude.. I have tried to defend haejin and bernie/randowhale downvotes everything I've ever posted.

The flags I am seeing from haejin are mostly randowhale and berniesanders sheep. You guys don't see that Bernie is the one causing problems.

I have made good profit since learning technical analysis. If you see no value in his posts, then I can see why you would think is flags are malicious.

The dude deserves way more credit than he gets. I still haven't seen any valid "harm" that he has done.

He targeted the Steem Poker League, the prize pools for which are financed out of Steemit profits. That's not just bad, that's satanic.

Nice hyperbole.
Upvoted anyway. I like it!

No - it's not hyperbole. It's about right.
Making innocent people for your greed-war is actually worse than some stupid little red devil with horns under the Earth.

He fucked with the wrong people.

And honestly I think that was wrong. The explanation is that it is a reaction to the harm that bernie and his gang of bots and followers has caused our community. Bernie is attacking @haejins followers, and those who are conspirering against our community are getting the same treatment back.... Not saying its right though, just that it is the facts...

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Bernie downvoting you for defending haejin or expressing an opinion is not right. If it's not right when bernie does it, then it's not right when haejin does it. Bernie's motto is not "Do no harm". Downvoting a single post is one thing. Downvoting all posts for a user is another altogether (without a specific reason for each post). I know Bernie has done this. What many of you and haejin don't seem to understand is that we are not aligned. We are not sheep. I have 0 allegiance to Bernie. He has no allegiance with me. The same can be said for @themarkymark.

A post about a 100 Steem give away for charity has nothing to do with this. Downvoting such a post does harm.

As I said before, this is a problem with the steem platform. We will run in circles if we just say the problem is bernie or the problem is haejin.

I think steem would be better if there was no flagging whatsoever. It would be even better than that if rewards were based upon the quality of content rather than the spamming of bots.

That being said, Haejin is not here to harm the steem community. He is helping a great deal of people and I personally think he provides fantastic content. I am confident he would not need steem to promote himself, nor does he need the money from steem. Look at his donation addresses, he has plenty of money.

If steem will forever be dominated by whales, I hope more like haejin show up. While you see him as malicious, I see him as the best content creator on the platform. He is also building a community of people learning from him. I see no greater gift he could give me than the gift of knowledge I have received.

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He may not be here to harm, but he is causing great harm. His content may be helpful to many of you, but it isn't very helpful to the Steemit community in general. Now, could that change? Yes. But based on his recent actions and stated plans, I doubt it very much. He is just as malicious as Bernie, if not more so.

The knowledge he gives is fine to give to his customers. However most of the steemit community does not want to buy his product. To retaliate against someone for not buying your product is wrong. That is what he does when he wipes out a person's earnings for downvoting one of his $1000/day posts for -.02. It is harmful. I can attest.

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studgriffin (15) · 2 hours ago
Why is it not helpful to the steem community? Anyone can learn technical analysis, Haejin is just a very good teacher and a very good predictor.
I don't really see what his product is also, he is not forcing me to upvote or donate to him.

I agree with you that whales ability to wipe out earnings is wrong. That being said, as long as the flag is there it will be abused by anyone who has the money to abuse it. Bernie is definitely the worst though.

Meh, they are really about the same right now. Both pretty bad in terms of downvotes.

The flag is necessary to judge the value of the content. I agree that his product (teaching and analysis) has potential to be useful to everyone, but not everyone wants to make use of that potential. I doubt most people would bat an eye at your upvote. This whole thing started from a single user with a +300 upvote on every one of his posts. Now, while the system allows such power over the reward pool, it does allow the steemit community a method of recourse. That recourse is the downvote. Now, it got a bit too overzealous and blanked out one or two of his posts, but that was it. While he doesn't force your vote, using his considerable influence over the reward pool would force the reward pool to pay him if the community members didn't have the ability to downvote him.

I get your guys' point though. The flag really does have a negative connotation everywhere, but it doesn't quite mean the same thing here. It really should be two different things. The flags on haejin's stuff should stop at around $120 or whatever similar post types dictate. I'm not even that upset with 200, but if they were unchecked, they would be $1000 per post, and I don't feel like that is an accurate representation of the value of that post to the community.

For example, I sell a product here on Steemit that costs 20 Steem. Now, if I accepted upvotes as payment for that product, I would be wrong. Here's why: it cost the community, not the upvoter. The funds belong to steemit and the community is given the responsibility to spend it. If they do not have the ability to counter the whims of a whale, the system will continue to be scammed.

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@moeknows You got downvoted by @haejin in one of your posts above. I believe you aimed it at @berniesanders but the message was unclear exactly whom you were addressing. So much confusion and inevitably friendly fire.

Edit: Maybe I'm the only one confused.

Nah, I'm sure he meant to give me a full 100% downvote. He has learned well from Bernie. I kind of called him out on the fact that his motto is "Do no harm" yet harm he does. Oh well, such is life. You can read the conversation below...or above...I always get mixed up where these posts end up once the flags and upvotes start getting thrown around.

Anyway feel free to join the conversation. Be careful though, there be hungry whales in the water.

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What lie, libel or fabrication existed in the charity give away post?

If I could provide a middle ground opinion I think what you bring to Steem is people not content. Steem users are use to payouts being content based with a few whales getting payouts due to investments. You @heajjin are getting paid due to outside fame(unless you care to argue that each article you post is worth thousands of USD in its own right).

This new aspect of Steem is confusing to people and the fact that you exist outside of the general Steem community is scary to some. How about you checkout some of our other content, and try to spread a bit of love? I’m sorry you got such a rude welcome but I don’t think returning the favor will help anyone. What hobbies do you have? Maybe I could suggest people to follow.

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Your mother suck Japanese dick! Keep it up! Toss another flag you coward! You are harming my friends. Get the sand and Vaseline out of your buttcrack. Keep going... I dare you to come to STEEM speak cuntmouth!

I agree

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Flags are given for mostly no reason. You're just new to a platform you don't understand the rules of. I am sure once you catch on and stop fighting the entire network except those who followed you here you'll do just fine. I'd even be willing to bet if you upvoted some content other than your supporters you'd gain some respect. As it stands now, you are fighting a losing battle as you haven't even started to be flagged by the big accounts yet.

@haejin remember you carry a huge stick. With that comes responsibility. I say the same to @berniesanders
I'm speaking in protest to huge debilitating flagging. Flag at a couple percent for crying out loud. Accounts shouldn't get cratered because you disagree.

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You are right but a large flag that is without hate (unless used to counter spam) should not get close to 0$.

@haejin post may not be worth 300$ to some people but they're clearly worth more than 1$ for a few people.

Flags that takes away most or all of the reward should be accompanied with an explanation, and here is mine.

To be able to see the result of a flag you can use the Steemit MoreInfo addon for chrome/firefox

That's boss. Getting that immediately.

Yeah i also did. ;-)

I understand your disagreement. I spammed the BC. Thank you for being rational.

Too bad they're all fucking poor and have contributed absolutely nothing to Steem except shilling your bullshit.

Uh oh, voting power is getting low! Keep on flagging, bitch!

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@berniesanders Your analysis is... vapid
Good of you to judge 10,000 random Steemians as worthless.
Our comments become us. The mirror is harsh my friend.

Edit: typically avoid self upvote but my comment got hidden even though it wasn't apparently flagged. Why is that?
Edit 2: Removed self upvote after receiving a vote which kept my comment visible. Thank you.

@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

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Trading is risky. 90% have to stop after 3 month. They should all get a lesson. We just protect them. PLZ get it. Just buy and hodl btc. If you cant do this you shouldnt even think about trading. Your selfupvote is just protection in digital war. Well done!

Spreading the word that trading is risky is a fine thing to do. I'm not behind flagging content to protect others unless it's directly harmful or misinformed. @haejin presents speculation on his part. I can't see it as being presented as fact. Seems to me he has a right to say it.

He has. And he is doing. Whats the problem. I have a right to flag.

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Your mom cries when I pull out

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You got all no money in wallet but tell all time that @haejin is making you all fucking rich. I dont get it.

@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

It's because most of us are sickened by the way the community is acting and wouldn't touch this coin with a ten foot pole..if this goes on all over Steemit, I don't see it lasting long

Amen Brother! I had ideas about writing and posting stories on this platform, but after this debacle, I am not so sure about that.

Thanks blue...the most tragic thing about this is that an honest man who is giving his gift to everyone is being crucified for his efforts...and all these downvoters had to do is write to haejin in a respectfull manner asking his followers to help support them as well to "even out the rewards pool" as they say, and they would have had 10000 possible loyal supporters and upvoters..i hope they let that sink in

Shawnster, Tragic is a good word for it. I didn't come to Steemit to follow Haejin, but am damn sure glad I came upon his posts and started to listen and learn. I can't put a value on the knowledge and skill he offers to this platform because to me its priceless. I have made life changing money because he has taught me how through his blog and tutorials. Haejin has often spoken about a "visibility campaign" in his videos to get his teachings out further in an effort to help more people. It is a shame that new people to this platform are having to wade through abusive language and other garbage to get to the videos or tutorials. I am saddened by the fact that there are those out there that will miss this information.
I came to Steemit for the chance to read and learn from others that knew more about this crypto world than I ever would hope to know. I found knowledgeable people and for that I am grateful.
Cheers friend, maybe someday there will be a place where knowledge and the spreading of it becomes a larger driving force than money.

Very well said my friend...let's hope this agreement just announced calms things down..this is how it should have been handled in the first place..i told haejin that his generosity will ripple for eternity because each person he has helped will do it for another person and it will have a lasting effect for generations...good luck on your trades my friend...cheers

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How a blockchain should go down?
New users joining or not? Power stays the same i dont care if steem price drops to 1usd. I wouldnt buy power now. You look like selling anyway.

How reputation can possibly go down when steem rockets?
You all pump a useless coin?

I don't mean the blockchain..i mean it's reputation

you don't get it because you are dumb. The money is being made by investing not by collecting the steem coin on a shit platform where people are being blackmailed into using a bot for upvotes.

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i mean steemit wallet. its transparent. i dont care about your other coins.

LOL, you do realize @haejin has analyzed well over 50 coins, and Steem is only one of those.

I made my mind up ~6 months ago that Steem is a community that isn't worth investing in, both with my time and with my money.

So why you comment here?

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Because Haejin is here, and his analysis are here...

Edit.: I hate getting upset over this, so I'm removing the name calling.. It's a dumb war. You should be trying to change steemit if you think his content is not worth that much, not blaming him. This is so obvious to me. Speaking for myself, I think he is the greatest techer in TA I have ever found online, and I will be forever grateful for him. The internet is full of obnoxious TAs that think the world of themselves and their analysis. Not haejin. Haejin is confident and true to what he does and teach, and he is humble on doing it. Just watch any of his videos and you will see.
This bernie guy is so ridiculous, how can anyone take his argument seriously when he acts like a child and a troll on every post he makes?

Because @haejin is the one thing that has made me interested in reading a Steemit blog again.

Why are you commenting here?

Fuck you! STEEMit bought my device and pays my bills you dumb motherfucker.

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Fuck you! STEEMit bought my device and pays my bills you dumb motherfucker.

You are such a sad little specimen. You come across as having the intelligence of a retarded amoeba .

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But what you want to do if you can not downvote him? You are right you shouldnt put all your worth into power. But holding steem away from power is useless to me and just gamble a useless coin. But on this site you get a voteing weight if you power up. If you just want to sell at higher price then go for it.

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We could be poor but hes teaching us how to "turn 8 to 20, 20 to 100, 100 to 1000. That to 100,000."

Unlike everyone else i dont hate @BernieSanders. I think he does a great job at playing the "bad" guy. Guy has a lot of energy and seems to be a genius online. I wonder if hes invested in any of Mr. Lees's suggestions. Either way it has brought more light to the genius of Mr.Lee

So why you got 1.5usd in wallet?

u startet with 1 cent?

What you mean plz be more precisely. Its about your idol. you all follow just 1 elliottwaver drawing random arrows. He doesnt even explain risk management.

if you play with fire without learning about it first, its dangerous.
@heajin actually teaches how to work with the fire, not saying that you can not burn your fingers! should he teach all of us everything? than he would sit on is computer whole day an dont have a life beneath.

google it and you know that buying cryptos is risky, google more, than you know your bankaccount is risky aswell.

we need to put efford in to learn how it can work with the eliot waves.
@haejin will not do everything for us, he just show us the way.

So thats why he is only drawing arrows up? I mean he should also teach about security. @benben-ben @elgeko @matrixdweller

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Why do you have 2,000 in your wallet?

Votingpower.

Billyjoel.

I have a theory that he's one of Haejin's followers and was to impatient, didn't follow directions, called Haejin a "guru" with a crystal ball and crashed and bernie'd during Dec pull back. He's a classic WIN/LOSE maker; in order for him to WIN some one else has to lose. He's probably only a whale cause he was all in when Steem was $0.06

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Note to everybody: this is a copycat account, similar to @nijeah (spelled backwards). Note that it is spelled wrong -- the author of this post as can be seen in the URL is @haejin, "H followed by A". The account I am responding to (and am about to downvote to a zero reputation simply because of its existence), is "H followed by E".

The (4) after the name is perhaps the quickest tell this isn't the real account.

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lol he probably does love @haejin

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Lets face it Bernie. You are done for! No money in the world can stand against the people that are flocking here for Haejin. in 2-3 months you will cash out and start looking for some other place where you can play the high school bully!

Do you not see I've already won? Look at how much voting power these morons are wasting on flags rather than upvoting this bullshit. Dumb. Asses.

Why do you keep saying you've won? Haejins followers have tripled in two weeks. You are not winning.

Maybe they are playing different game.
Do you think they still hold this nice coins they know nothing about or are in cash now or btc?

No we do get it. What you don't get is that we just want people to see the work. That's all it takes. 100k followers coming this year. We don't need to upvote eachother for money, we do it to keep it visible for new users....while you don't seem to care for new users. You got all the witnesses sucking your nuts because you were in the scam from the beginning. We don't care about that. The more people that flock here and see that Haejin is great at what he does. The more people earn. The more we succeed. And ultimately, the more the problem of you takes care of itself. You're losing money with all these flags because you rely on them to profit. We don't see that as a loss, it's the cost of doing business to get more people to profit which boosts the brand.

Combined platform following: 44K and growing by the thousands every day.....not including reddit where the official coin pages promote Haejin on their pages.

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@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

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LMAO bernie's dead followers are actually dead. Haejins "dead" followers are still upvoting him!

I'm sure bernie can't stand to see how badly he's losing.

@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

@berniesanders, I wouldnt waste my time down voting you. I dont believe in kicking people when they are down and you look to be down and soon out.

Are you really that ignorant?

I dont what I have done wrong here, I vote mostly for new members posts. My reputation is ruined because I upvoted A guy who posted he got 10k folowers . Is that wrong . I have maybe voted for hand full of his posts since I have been here 6weeks or so .. Can I remove my post ,, I investecd a lot of money to buy shares in this company and i am ruined because of one post .. Can you please remove the down votes and I will move on to voting for new comers like my self ,, I haveto much invested to finf my self in some war I know nothing about ...

After 7 days you cant change what you wrote or voted. If you get a replie you cant even delete a post or comment only edit it to "0".

Do you not see you are loosing out? Lots of early voters are too busy charting out on their own to read all his posts by now. Better dumb assed than numb headed.

In here we can all afford being nice.

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You profile says you are an "Investor and Buddhist". Sir obviously you suck at both of them! as an investor you can not see quality content and make use of it. And you can not see that on the mid to long term people that come here following haejin will make you more money than rooting for Bernie

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@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

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Sir if you are so well of then why do you feel the need to come here and Curse people who are looking for reliable advice? For the love of Steem community I suppose. Yes everything is going up the question is which one is going up NOW? and how much! if you can spot it, good for you. Not everyone has the knowledge... so start behaving!

Did u forget that you posted this?

Again, I love the fact that you love his advice. Nothing at all against that. But we need to protect our assets and this platform. This is a home to me, not just a place to make money. Haejin is destroying communities that I have donated tons of time, money and effort in helping grow (SPL). and that one selflessly puts his earnings into.

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@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

I'm not sure how attracting new users to steem is destroying steem. Seems like he's attracting new users to this platform, like me, who never heard of steem until post-haejin. Could one you elaborate on what your solution of flagging haejiin will bring?

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Dont misunderstand. attracting new users is an amazing thing. But if one person receives all of the rewards that a platform promises...what then? Why would people stay...then why would haejin still be here....then why would you stay? Doesn't that make sense? You need to open your eyes and see this world doesn't revolve around haejin. I don't question that he is a great investor, i never said otherwises. I don't question that people make money of his charts....But its not that his posts are trash...its that he is taking advatage of the platform and will ultimately destroy it. The people who are speaking up are not greedy people. We have been here a while and understand how this all works. Once you understand the platform, and i am talking about more than just you, then you have the right to come back and argue the benefits.

I guess I’m confused like a lot of new steemians, should haejin make less posts? Condense them or something?

10 posts totaling 20K in USD a day is a little absurd for what he brings, correct? What you offer is multiple solutions. Any of which could work. Posting once a day would just limit the amount of large upvotes on his content. Now this is fine and so is 10 posts that are well reserved. BUT do all ten need to be getting $400 plus? This in the general sense hurts the platform. Its not about me making more but about the new members who join, i assume you are one?, being able to benefit from posting quality content. As it is, and since HF19, it has gone downhill. I used to do really well as a minnow posting righteous content. Those days are gone as the whales are milking every last drop.

I hope what i am saying makes sense. If you have any questions about MY OPINION feel free to ask. :)

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If all you say is as u say it is , then it is not haejins fault . Steem, steemit whatever you want to call it has a great flaw . That flaw is whatever you are talking about . Thing is , with every single thing in the world that makes money in this case tech , or steemit there will be people trying to exploit .. so either steemit work this out if it is a problem or just move to another more secure coin . We are talking about cryptos and there are many of them out there . Im sure ppl like you can figure the non-exploitable ones .. that is after all a trademark for cryptos - security

I want to make sure this is clear. I never said anything bad about haejin. The issue here is the amount of rewards and how is has handled himself after. No question he brought people to steem, just like he got many of you into verge and many other crypto. Is it a flaw or is it just build that way. Everyone is too hard headed to realize what anyone else is saying and it just spirals down hill from there.

This platform is meant to be self regulated, hence decentralized. While it isnt perfect, I love it for its inperfections :wink:

How is he destroying steem? Give me a reason. Think for yourself man.

Because adding 10k people who had NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THIS SITE is a terrible thing for both the site and the currencies obviously. Just like twitter is always bitching about people getting too many followers because they don't tweet all the time....you know, because more users is a bad bad thing for a website to have.

@berniesanders you are such a loser! Go get a life! Leave Haejin alone. We value his content. Couldn't care less about what you post.

Why don't you go to break balls elsewhere?
do you know how it is said from my parts.... in Sicily..... do not break us the minchia... did you understand?

can you remove down votes .. idont want to be in this war .. look at my votes ..i vote for new people mostly. I did not know a post would ruin me,,

Do you think you get out like this? If there is war? Be happy that its only digital.

please put my reputation back the way it was . I vote for mostly new people .. IVe voted on this blog a handfull of times , Please dont ruin a guy for being at wrong place at wrong time .. Look at my votes ,, mostly for my sons new blog and new comers ,, pleae fix this

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cry cry cry...

@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

Let me say it clearly. You all are a pump crew. About dump we will see!
I know you all think you are right. But just look into a post of one of your members.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@benkalashnikov/bitcoin-cash-bch-analysis-300-profit-potential#

Do you think this will happen? There is all full of mistakes and questions.
But basicly EW???

LOOK AT MY VOTES -- PLEASE FIX THIS ,, PLEASE

Too bad when @Haejin's followers start downvoting you..you will face an A-B-C correction.

Looks more like all you followers doing this and @berniesanders is the btc rising.

such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for

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Haejin has brought a lot of new users to Steemit. New users that will slowly start to take more interest in Steemit and build their wealth. This process takes time but it does not help when someone like you is waging a flag war. Users accounts cannot be seen as collateral damage just because you do not like one user!!

I've contributed this reply what more do you need?

@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

hmm, how does 2 cents sound? Don't go too crazy adding guacamole or bacon haha

Bernie, man I'm sorry, but can you PLEASE stop making Futurama look bad. Fuck me and all the people around here ok? You win. Just don't represent a good show in this way. That's really fucked up man.

Bernie, Do us all a favor and get lost. Your whole argument has gotten way to boring. Just leave and terrorize some other poster. Enough is enough.

Lol .. that made me laugh

I would rather try to stay classy and provide constructive feedback.

If shilling ain't your thing, I wonder what you are doing here ;)

Emmm...im confused..

@berniesanders seems to be jealous of @haejin having too much success on Steem, so he's putting a lot of effort on downvoting @haejin and his followers. I invite you to have a look at Bernies post and dare you to find something constructive... or useful at all. Just a mediocre guy with some spare money apparently.

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I don't even follow @haejin and I just got wrecked... @berniesanders isn't entirely without point though, I don't see @haejin standing up and helping his followers, so much as he appears to be trying to help his own account. Maybe he thinks that's the best way to help his followers. Either way, this war is crushing new users who are just trying to get familiar with the platform.

A lot of people on Steemit are coming from Reddit where downvoting is less discouraged. I mostly just post and vote on #gridcoin and #cryptocurrency, but I up/downvote anything else I find along the way as seems appropriate. Like other new users, my account's been razed for being perceived as a belligerent in this skirmish. Just tying to curate content and make Steemit a better place for discussion than Reddit in the long run.

We are actually playing by the rules of the platform. @haejin get more followers because the content is useful... I'm getting money from following him. If he cares about his own account, that's up to him... worst case, he leaves you alone, and provide potentially useful content.
The problem with @berniesanders is exactly that he is attacking others and even their followers... or anyone that just gets caught in the middle, like you.

I'll be sharing my story from a couple months ago soon. Right now I'm programming (again! Finally! -- recovering from multiple concussions...) a script to help counter @berniesanders and his @randowhale.

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plz consider a "Teacher" who gives buy orders to followers for coins with sometimes low marketcap will result in a pump if he is drawing arrows up. its like this mcaffee guy. did you look into it?

such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for

It's the dawning of a new age. Old energies are being replaced, but not without some friction.

Growing Pains. and Going Pains.

Why don't you go to break balls elsewhere?
do you know how it is said from my parts.... in Sicily..... do not break us the minchia... did you understand?

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His minions are going around telling people about the accounts being created in huge numbers and how they are paying for them to be created. I wonder how many of these 10k are real?
or how many are going to bring any value to steem. haejin sure isnt.

I'm a real person, and kinda like the advice given. I've gotten several people to join steemit, and plan on bring plenty more. Mind you they are longborders, not traders, but even i am no trader ether and i can see haejin is adding value, if he does have a bot, stop his bot, not attack everyone of his followers. How is that fair to any of us?

I am not attacking his followers that arent attacking first. Steem is an amazing thing. I hope you bring more people. But if the abuse doesnt stop it will be worthless soon. And even though you guys are seeing Bernie as the abuser...this isnt the case.

Well I will not attack you guys, cause I can honestly say i don't know enough about bots, and programming to even know what for sure is possible. I just hope there is a way to resolve this, and in the end make steemit better for everyone.
As a new person, this is the main thing I feel is turning new people away at the moment. I even wrote about it in an article, but told people just to keep out of it, and just not pick sides.
I'll just be staying out of harms way, hoping that however this folds it's better in the long run. Peace???

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We are real people you ignorant shit

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It's amazing how blind you stupid, little sheep are.
Only cowards need leaders.

The mistake this little shit-coin salesman made is: attempting to make innocent people pay for his political Steemit-crap.

None of these poker-players had a fucking thing to do with this and he made THEM pay for HIS greed. He didn't just fuck with some guy who flagged his over-valued post.... He fucked with an entire community of 600 people and they're the last people in the world you want to fuck with.

Well said. Maybe with insulting words, but content seems to be true. 600 is just a guess right?

No - it's not a guess. On last count, which was last night... there were just-under 600 members and probably more by now.

What happened to free market principles? I thought if you have something valuable to say people ought to reward such speech.

I guess the flaggers are exercising their right to dissent. It doesn't seem like the typical "vote with your dollars" approach. It's more like rob a little to compensate for other people's generosity.

Flagging and upvoting are actually both using free market principles. You are not paying someone with your upvote and you are not robbing people with your downvote you are helping to decide how much of the reward pool they get. When you upvote, you say that they should get more, when you downvote (flag), you are saying that they should get less of the reward pool and more should go to other people. The more steem power you have, the more weight your vote has. At the end of the seven days the post is paid out with whatever the community decided it should be paid.

In this current "war" we have a whale that decided that they wanted to vote to give a large portion of the reward pool to @haejin. He has every right to do this. We then had another whale @berniesanders who decided that they wanted less of the reward pool to go to @haejin and more to be paid to everyone else. He also has every right to do this. Where this gets unethical (or abusing flagging power) is when a post is voted to $0 or when @haejin retaliates by downvoting posts out of spite.

People are tending to feel entitled to their potential rewards. Then when they get flagged they feel like it is a personal attack. We all need to be more comfortable with the downvote. It is a critical part of the steem ecosystem and needs to be used by everyone but not abused as it has been by people on both sides of this "war"

Nicely said.

Nope. This is just like all the dummies running around America asking for handouts and telling rich people to fuck off and die. They have no idea how hard it is to build an empire, so they just try to tear it down and steal from the leftovers. If you make money, you're bad. Unless you're part of the government like Mr Slanders

I live in Argentina, a country built by doing what you just described @scarlet7. Look at the results. Actually... this way of thinking has lead to pretty bad things throughout history people... juts read a bit... or at least watch some John Green videos on YouTube

Here are my complete thoughts on the issue if you're interested. https://steemit.com/steem/@littlejoeward/flagging-war-who-is-to-blame-what-on-earth-is-going-on

That's a very level-headed look at what's happening. Upped and resteemed.

Thanks! I appreciate that!

I remind you of my post. https://steemit.com/steemit/@tuvokhl/why-steemit-is-genius-and-will-beat-the-dunning-kruger-effect
They have to get a lesson. Following wrong idol to much can hurt.

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Who made you everybody's parent? People learn from their failures. Let them fail.
You can make an effort to educate without being a flagging ninny. Thanks for the flag by the way, I've decided to give myself a 100% vote to offset it.

Edit: There's a good kernel of an idea in your article but it doesn't account for smug people suffering from DKE throwing their weight around to silence dissenters. Anyway I take it you didn't like me saying that posts from @haejin are valuable. Value is in the eye of the beholder. That's why markets exist so that no one person or group dictates the rate of exchange. Hate coffee? Good, don't buy any ever. That and don't begrudge the value other people put in it.

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I know its getting emotional here. Only like this you can make a bigger point.
I just spread the WORD and the VOTE.

Edit: if somebody or a group puts to much value in a coffee i would just try to produce this coffee a little bit cheaper. But with posts i can not ignore it that people just follow it because of fakevalue. And i think the free market of votes decides the value of a post.

@bernie and his bots and spam accounts taking huge returns in comparison to haejin is not abuse. Do yourself a favour and click on his top accounts and see what they are making for continuously posting things like 'SBD' nothing else in the post. That is what is and will destroy steemit not haegin. I personally have made a fortune from learning from haejin and although you may disagree with his posts, they are informative for those who follow him. Every post has tutorials linked to it and those that include video have a tutorial segment 9 times out of 10. Haejin didnt hand me a fish and say come back tomorrow for some more. He taught me how to fish and I now look after myself.

We're cool. Glad to have the conversation.

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I know. Glad too.

such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for

such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for

Your content is interesting.

Your attempts to kill off the rest of Steemit in a petty feud is bullshit. Any chance you might cut back on that?

Thank you for posting a reasonable comment sir. I hope more people behave like you.

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Uh-oh, you're gonna anger kimjonghaejin and his band of merry wannabe's!!

Bernie Sanders programs do not accept unverified input.

@haejin, I have to disagree with you this time. Your content is not a good content, but an EXCELLENT one. I was lucky to find you 6 months ago here and had benefited so much from your posts. I remember you said last year that your goal was to reach 1K followers by end of year 2017, but your've achieved 10X instead. That's a vertical impulsive move (or extended wave 3 or 5) in term of charting. :P That's a phenomenal achievement. I am very happy for you. Please accept my sincere congratulations!!!

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Your content is amazing! I've learned so much about how you conduct your analysis and it's definitely made me a better investor. 2018 is going to be a great year for us all!

@haejin I'm a new follower and I'm willing to support your work. However I'm not a fan of the flagging adventures you've embarked upon. In short: love your work don't love the flag war.

Could you please rise above and stop flagging the SPL? Also Tuck? He seems like a decent enough guy going way back.

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It's self defense. @berniesanders has been waging an attack campaign using fabricated evidenc. I said no to backing down and being a doorbell mat.

Can you link to fabricated evidence and provide your own? I appreciate your response.

There has been soo many posts on the subject and I dont remember all of the writes, but @pawsdog has written several articles on this whole "war" and the fires shot from both sides. So you can get a pretty good idea of what has happend from reading his articles. He is very objective in his research, and his posts are well written and worth reading.. Good discussion in the comment sections as well :)
https://steemit.com/steem/@pawsdog/the-reward-pool-rape-saga-between-berniesanders-and-haejin

There is a rewards pool that is paid out every day. The way that it is decided is by people upvoting and downvoting posts. When you upvote a post you are saying that you think that it deserves more of the rewards pool. When you downvote a post you are saying that it deserves less. Your vote is weighted by how much steem power you have. Everyone has the right to vote how they choose to help us distribute the rewards pool as fairly as possible.

This power can also be abused. People upvote things that shouldn't be upvoted and downvote things that shouldn't be downvoted. You have a whale that is voting on all of your posts giving you a large share of the rewards pool. He has every right to do this but everyone else gets to decide if your posts are worth it. Many people don't think that your posts are worth such a large portion of the rewards pool and more of it should be given to the rest of the community. These people have every right to downvote your posts to spread that potential payout to the rest of the community.

@berniesanders has every right to flag your content for disagreeing with rewards. I think he goes overboard a lot of the time by flagging posts to $0 but everyone has the right to upvote or downvote to decide the value of posts.

No one in entitled to their potential payout. That amount will go up and down depending on when people upvote or downvote your posts. It is not a personal attack if someone disagrees with how much you are getting from the rewards pool.

I think it is abusing voting power when people do what berniesanders is doing by voting posts down to $0 when they are valuable posts like yours. But I think it is also abusing power when people retaliate by downvoting posts out of spite without looking at the content. Downvotes are not punishments to be handed out to our enemies. They are a tool for us to help to spread the reward pool to the best posts.

If you accept your whale upvote, you have to expect some whale downvotes to come with it. Usually it is not because they hate you or think you are a scammer, it is usually just because they are trying to protect the reward pool from all going to a few people. I personally do not agree with berniesanders' tactics, and I don't really know much about him honestly but the principle of protecting the rewards pool is in everyone's best interest.

Just remember, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Just use your upvotes and downvotes for things you think are valuable and don't try to use them as a weapon. The community doesn't like that. Just look at how many people hate berniesanders. If you do the same things he does to "fight back" you are just as bad in most people's eyes.

Sorry for the long post, I just feel like a lot of people don't understand this and it creates a lot of confusion, anger and hurt on this platform.

Good luck!

Isn't that guy creating a ton of alt accounts just to flag an account down to zero?

Yes. But that doesn't mean that haejin should stoop to his level by abusing his downvotes too.

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You are already winning! Spare the little mindless crowd that blindly cheers for Bernie. This way you shall rise to higher highs! Think long term as you always do.

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What to you mean by "off-chain DoS" attacks?

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Thats what the point is all about. Nobody of them can trade on his own. @haejin and his followers are all involved in something that is called pump and dump. at least in low marketcapcoins. thats my view to this.
@hajin giveing buy orders to his followers (orderfollowers) and they all buy (pump). the worst of this all is that they dont get it.
but okay we got the blockchain and all graphs. it should be easy to analyse.

such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for

@tuvokhl You are clearly a clueless idiot, say no more.

You're a riot! LMAO!

PLACE HOLDER, mother fucker.

such sad pathetic little things you all are. keep on flagging @bernie and crew, I for one dont care. Show your pathetic followers where you actually use your voting power that they pay you for

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Don't forget I am one of your followers. I am also a big fan of you and your wife. thank you always!!

I too I am one of his followers. I hope to get there someday.

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Your calls are so impressive . It blows my mind .. Thanks for the analysis...

Did I do some thing wrong that I got down voted ? Im only here a short time , I try to spread my votes around to many different people and posts , Mostly to new people I find on the introduce your self tab , plus s0me of the crypto annalists because I read there ideas .. Will this affect my reputation with other posters as well . Really not sure of the rules around here?? Any advice would be appreciated .. Thanks

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This bully is just flagging everyone that comes to Haejins blog. Nothing personal. Just a Bully.

BernieSanders and his bots.
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What movie is that from?

It's from a mock documentary called Great Martian War.

Where is the gif for haejin and his minions? :)

i am not a bot.

agreed , no robot could be that stupid

i consider all robots as stupid. they just do what programmer wrote into the code.

Another sign of your ignorance. AI, bots learning more in a fraction of a second than you ever would in a hundred life times

PLEASE FIX THIS ,, IM HERE TO SUPPORT MY SONS NEW BLOG . DONT RUIN ME FOR BEING IN WRONG PLACE .. MY VOTES ARE MOSTLY FOR NEW MEMBERS.. PLEASE

Unfortunately, you innocently got caught in some cross-fire. I will repair any damage in a couple of days. Genius always attracts attacks.

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Uff me too...

It's amazing how blind you stupid, little sheep are.
Only cowards need leaders.

The mistake this little shit-coin salesman made is: attempting to make innocent people pay for his political Steemit-crap.

None of these poker-players had a fucking thing to do with this and he made THEM pay for HIS greed. He didn't just fuck with some guy who flagged his over-valued post.... He fucked with an entire community of 600 people and they're the last people in the world you want to fuck with.

u got bernie sandersed

you know @haejin, my wife hold tight her steem because she believed in you, so wanna say thank you!

Cheers Big Ears, congrats on the following. I'm sure I speak for others when I say I appreciate your content and wealth of information to help the noobs, and others just trying to improve. Grateful for you, keep up the good efforts.

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YAY! Thank you Haejin so much! You're the best!

Who else agrees that @Haejin should organize his own crypto event?!

Hey @haejin I think your content is pretty good. For those reasonable critics, I do not think their problem with your content is its quality, rather I think their criticism is the amount of rewards you receive per post. Again, I think your content is pretty good. The discussion is really: What is the content you provide worth? Some say it is worth more, others say it is worth less; I think this is a reasonable discussion for any content on Steem. The worth of content is the reason for upvoting and downvoting, I think most people can agree on at least this.

It is a wild bullish market currently. Recently when I woke up and checked Binance most of the coins had 30%+ growth. So I am not sure how to consider the calls given by you. It would be great if you can share some calls that you gave when the markets were stable or bearish.

I am not questioning your expertise here but would be great to have those details.

I was a bit late to the party, but it looks like it's actually just getting started!!!

Well done on 10,000 followers!!

Felice di farne parte . Grazie Maestro
Happy to be part of it. Thank you Master

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