Crypto Shirt of the Day: Bitcoin Classic

I'm not sure what this "Bitcoin Classic" is supposed to be, but it could be just a nice T-shirt or a reference to yet another distraction from the main contentious fork called Bitcoin Cash. (Just like Litecoin Cash is a joke coin aimed at mocking the BCH community)

The unrelated original Bitcoin Classic project was ultimately ended because of the successful launch of Bitcoin Cash.

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adambalm (59) · 7 years ago

Exactly! There are so many people spreading fud as well as a lot of people pushing misinformation it's too the point that NIST doesn't even know whats going on. You know misinformation is a problem when you confuse NIST.

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Yes, and now I bet someone reading this will think we're simply being uncritical of the early NIST draft because it supported the claim that Bitcoin Cash was the real Bitcoin, but then they are falling for the misinformation being spread again as I certainly recognize that there was plenty in that draft to complain about.

If the report "supports" some claim I made but is otherwise inaccurate and makes me look like a fool, then obviously it's not helping me in the long run.

What's more, I think there have been plenty of social media sock puppets created to make Bitcoin Cash users look bad. Fake "noobs" asking for direction and fake "Roger-" or "Craig Wright fans" pushing things like the original draft of the NIST report (rather ironically too because it's a government job and butchered at that) as "the ultimate proof" in the debate etc.

I'm not about to go full on conspiracy nut though. Not even close. Anyone looking outside of the "mainstream-Bitcoin-media" so to speak for long enough can see it pretty easily unless they let their own biases get in the way.

The AXA stuff? Takeover attempts etc? I can't personally really establish any of that with certainty, at least so far. Some of it seems like stretching it or too hard to confirm. Also, lots of people on r/BTC were obviously banned from r/Bitcoin for good reasons; Not everyone was innocent, of course. But there's a lot more to it that.

-Disclaimer before someone says it, I became convinced that Bitcoin Cash was the better way to go after looking at the technical background, not because I wanted to get on a pump-and-dump train. I still don't have any Bitcoin Cash, but I recommended the project to friends when price was still correcting. My interest is in finally getting to use Bitcoin as we were always working on back in the day. Not merely holding it in a cold wallet.

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rulesforrebels (61) · 7 years ago

Yeah I had never heard of classic and really not a lot of talk online about it but I found a site called FailedForks which touched on it like you said...

Bitcoin Classic
Bitcoin Classic was the second failed attempt to fork Bitcoin.

The proposal itself gained wide support from Bitcoin companies and a few mining pools.

Like XT, a lack of support for the proposal among the Bitcoin community as a whole led to the failure of this hard fork attempt.

Most of the Classic nodes that popped up were fake and hosted from the same ISP.

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

While I think what you say is factual, that's also a rather slanted/overly narrow perspective though that ignores everything similar happening in the opposite camps during this time. No matter if you pick sides in the ongoing conflict or not, there is plenty of pure propaganda being spread currently that is meant to paint any attempt at or even consideration to increase the block space as a short sighted recipe for failure.

Just as a side note, many of the old social media channels that I used to rely on in 2010 ish if I remember correctly are heavily manipulated. This is a significant influence in the community and even the open channels, like Twitter, get dragged down in the mud due to herd mentality, undeserved respect for authorities and bots mass spamming slogans or adhominem attacks. Getting unbiased information about anything is a much tougher job now and requires digging into the technical back story on your own. That's a tragedy, but it's time we all grew up I guess.

Bottom line, I would not trust that site most likely, but would look for confirming facts that can be checked by going as close to the source as I could.

Now, back to the topic of "faking" (sock puppeting would be a better term) the now a days so called "full nodes". This is easy and done all the time, which is why Satoshi designed the system not to rely on counting or identifying nodes at all, but on the total amount of hashpower. This also makes sure that there is always incentive and competition to produce blocks, which is what drives the entire networks economic structure.

In other words, contrary to what most people think these "full nodes" are not actually nodes at all but rather simplified connections and in the greater context irrelevant to the security of the network. That some people are now starting to count them in order to find out what the "community" supports or not (whether it's in regards to an upcoming fork planned by some party or incase of a network attack) is a worrying trend, as they are much too easy for governments or other large organizations to reproduce.

This of course is not to suggest however that they are useless in all cases. Some businesses can benefit from running them, even if they are not essential to the network as such. But the above is important to keep in mind when the debate heats up.

Hope this doesn't sound like preaching to you. It's just there's a lot to be said on this topic and I'd rather not simply let it pass me by.

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sukhjitking (25) · 7 years ago

Wow, that is a cool logo. Any chance that you have it as a wallpaper of some sort?

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orges1 (48) · 7 years ago

wonderful t shirt bro <3 @reseller

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poorcirculation (48) · 7 years ago

Cool shirts @reseller. And thanks for the advice for SteemFollower. I joined using your referral link an hour ago. Another learning process begins... Geoff

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quantum999 (37) · 7 years ago

May be the letter “B” must be as the letter S in Superman:-))

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quantum999 (37) · 7 years ago

it seems good

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