Bitcoin Cash has the roadmap that lead to Bitcoin's original success, and Bitcoin Cash has the roadmap that will lead to Bitcoin's future success.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@lexiconical/bitcoin-scaling-s-western-front-of-propaganda-outsider-s-guide-to-the-bitcoin-subreddits

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

This is what he is talking about. It was already a censorship fight, 10 months ago.

This is actually overly generous to the r/Bitcoin side. The truth is they now rampantly edit, delete, and ban with absolutely no visible moderator record. r/Bitcoin might as well be a corporate sub locked to upvote-only.

Relevant: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@lexiconical/seg-wit-is-a-trojan-horse-bitcoin-scaling-debate-explained

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thejohalfiles (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

@rogerkver was good meeting you in Acapulco earlier this year brother.. I will be back again next year hope to talk some more. FYI I have delegated my SP for the next few weeks, sorry that you got flagged here. I wish I could give you some support. I have faith the Steem eco system will work these small issues out in time. Keep in mind, your post is still in the blockchain when flagged.

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

I recommend using Busy.org, where the posts don't get grayed out. At least it didn't in my feed.

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goldmatters (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks for coming back to Steemit @rogerkver! No censorship here on the Steem Blockchain :)

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

Just a ton of bots and a stale trending page, depending on what interface site you use... but I guess that's not very unique for Steem ;)

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raselkhan566 (49) · 7 years ago

Dear sir,I also support you about @rogerkver.

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

On Steemit.com some things get grayed out, yes, but not on the Steem blockchain and you can still view it even on Steemit if you don't prefer other apps.

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personz (66) · 7 years ago

This. Obviously this.

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kendewitt (56) · 7 years ago

Post to Steem more often! I had totally forgotten you were on here. You should get on Dtube as well. Censorship is lame!

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michiel (68) · 7 years ago

He only post now because he want to pump his shit coin. After this pump and dump event you won't see him here anymore until his next scam event. Beter he f*cks off here instead of only using the platform to scam people.

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rogerkver (67) · 7 years ago

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talltim (57) · 7 years ago (edited)

Please do, so I can tear apart every single false claim you have.

You're running a full-on identity scam, and you know it.

Good teardown on the whole confidence scheme here - https://hackernoon.com/thats-not-bitcoin-that-s-bcash-f730f0d0a837

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ats-david (74) · 7 years ago

You say this about once or twice a year, then disappear again. If anyone believes you, they’re a damn fool.

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

You have a point there. I'm guessing it's a courtesy mostly and that like myself promising things here, he's been very busy with the whole BTC-BCH debacle.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Only the highly insecure cannot stand competition.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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rxtro (40) · 7 years ago

Hi Bernie, I know its been two years, what has changed since this?Screenshot_20180423-214157.png

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

Realizing he's a piece of shit. How's that?

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16 votes

the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

I'm not gonna defend all of Rogers actions, but you realized that what... he has ideological views, uses his wealth for it, allows himself to get emotional and sometimes flips the finger at people when they troll him?

Funny how this reminds me of someone... ;)

As for Bitcoin Cash, you probably know better than to think it is merely a pump and dump or that it will die anytime soon. Let's get real. Toxicity in r/BTC or on Twitter, whoever it comes from, Rogers behaviour, some guy claiming to be Satoshi and never fulfilling his promise, changes very little about the fundamentals.

If you think Bitcoin Cash will be centralized, I guess in your book it might be. Also in my book, depending. But you can't deny that it will be an interesting experiment for many reasons (or if we consider Bitcoin SL chain/Lightning network the experiment). Far more interesting from a scientific perspective than say Litecoin or Dogecoin.

Finally we'll have something real to study, rather than bickering about how it should work in theory and never testing any of it out.

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yato (43) · 7 years ago

How is dogecoin not interesting?

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Pointing out these people are fucking hypocrites does nothing, literally NOTHING, to slow them down.

They can operate saturated in cognitive dissonance.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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frankbacon (65) · 7 years ago

I'm with you Bruv! Glad to have @rogerkver back!

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rxtro (40) · 7 years ago

Satisfying enough, answers the question succinctly.

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talltim (57) · 7 years ago

And here's the detailed proof - https://hackernoon.com/thats-not-bitcoin-that-s-bcash-f730f0d0a837

Great analysis and historical reference on the whole con-game that Very Wrong Ver is running.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Actual answer: Bernie has completely lost his mind. He is now a raging form of autistic. His opinions aren't based on logic and he only wants to watch the world burn.

He's a capricious, useless, pre-mining piece of shit.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

I may be some of those things but there is no such thing as "pre-mining" on the Steem blockchain, so, carry on ignorant troll...

You're just one of those poor twats looking for an excuse for having such a sad wallet.

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12 votes

chrissolutions (17) · 7 years ago

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

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https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/2017/12/05/upcoming-bitcoin-forks-2017-2018/

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Watch out, these are organized, censoring FUD'ers. Demonstrable lies pointed out in this thread.

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4 votes

talltim (57) · 7 years ago

Inconvenient facts - https://hackernoon.com/thats-not-bitcoin-that-s-bcash-f730f0d0a837

With screenshotted references and detailed technicals.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago (edited)

Jesus, you're fucking ignorant...

I'm so glad all of your rewards come from bots and not actual users reading your trash.

The ONLY reason BCH is relevant is because they gave it to BTC holders for free. If they didn't, nobody would give two flying fucks.

Roger is just some half baked retard who got into BTC early, there's nothing else to him.

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13 votes

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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lovemetouchme2 (58) · 7 years ago

Being censored on steem lols. Need to post more ☺

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slider2990 (63) · 7 years ago

Thanks @rogerkver. It is tough to continue to fight the good fight with all the negativity. We appreciate your work to continue to change the world for the better.

It is not important whether bitcoin or bitcoin cash is the superior platform but that the best decentralized form of money takes over and we get rid of some of Governments power over the people. You are doing a great service presenting an alternative way to move forward toward our ultimate goal. May the best win!

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https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@lexiconical/bitcoin-scaling-s-western-front-of-propaganda-outsider-s-guide-to-the-bitcoin-subreddits

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

This is what he is talking about. It was already a censorship fight, 10 months ago.

Relevant: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@lexiconical/seg-wit-is-a-trojan-horse-bitcoin-scaling-debate-explained

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Good seeing you here Roger. We don't always agree about things, especially strategy and marketing I'd say (where you are a lot more aggressive and I think you would actually have more success by being more vanilla), but "censorship" and manipulation is not an argument. (Many will say it's only the trolls or off-topic shilling spammers that get banned, but I've seen up front there's more going on than simply that.)

You're doing mostly good with r/BTC currently, but I'd warn you; There's a lot of sock puppeting and brigading going on also in that sub. I've noticed clearly unorganic voting behavior, especially on posts from tight group of CSW supporters. These people - irregardless of your opinion about a man who in private promised to reveal proof publicly of being Satoshi but didn't - are not good for the community. Unless you want to see the real users pushed out in favor of an artificially cheering crowd, better means of communication will have to be developed. There or elsewhere.

Maybe Memo.Cash is a good start for something new, maybe Yours.org will become more mainstream, and in any case maybe Steem and interfaces like Busy.org can be an inspiration to your and others. In any case I hope you'll feel at home here. (even if you're post rewards will probably show zero if berniesanders downvotes you)

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frankbacon (65) · 7 years ago

I'm for rallying behind THIS post as a rally point for future discord...
Posts on SteemIt represent a decentralized information economy.
As a PUBLIC SCI-FI AUTHOR myself, I have been immutably "on the record"
for my support of Bitcoin Cash as early as last year. I'm not saying I KNOW better, just POSTING my Stand ; )

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aphiso (51) · 7 years ago

I've been backing BCH since the fork. Core and Lightning Network are complete GARBAGE!

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bitcoinflood (77) · 7 years ago

BCH is garbage a bunch of cry babies that could not get their way to they piggy backed off bitcoins name to make money lol

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norcalanon707 (31) · 7 years ago

With you Roger!!!! This message needs to get out and people need to understand what Bitcoin Cash really is about!!! best, ~Sean

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frankbacon (65) · 7 years ago

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rajuyadav (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Your biggest fan, and a hardcore BCH supporter. I even wrote an article on you, We have faith in you. Just keep supporting the community.

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frankbacon (65) · 7 years ago

Highly rEsteemed!

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sohelhimel (34) · 7 years ago

wow .
valuable information .
very nice
Thank you for sharing your post

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kuboskeey (46) · 7 years ago

Yeah! Bitcoin is really booming, but I know my steem will soon take the baton....hahahha

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foortirafi (39) · 7 years ago

Amy often gets crippled for vapor censorship but you can get it!
Thanks for the return of Steven Rocker! There is no censorship of stem blocks here..

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spydo (58) · 7 years ago

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cbeep (44) · 7 years ago

It's right BCH is one of the rival of btc you can say ..but taking BCH above BTC ??we have to think twice .I like BCH but I also don't hate BTC

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

There's no reason to hate BTC just because you like or find BCH interesting. Unless you buy into the idea that one will kill the other and that whichever is killed should belong to the camp with "lesser people in it", you can support development on both chains and watch how they perform side by side in the market place.

Ignore the toxicity spread. There are also a lot of positive emotions and developments. It's just easier to make yourself heard in a smaller group and also easier to create sock puppets to manipulate and spread negativity.

It will all pass in time and as better forms of communication are created.

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cbeep (44) · 7 years ago

In crypto comparing one with another doesn't sounds good .

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Competition is healthy whenever there is a better alternative. If a coin can't compete at least in some manner, it is not really worth anything.

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heyimsnuffles (67) · 7 years ago

It’s gonna be hilarious when FB TWTR YOUTUBE and everyone censoring shit comes running back when they can’t stop this crypto movement. Can’t see the forest for the trees worth shit.

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Bernie's wallet
Roger's wallet

novacadian (58) · 7 years ago

This could be interesting if @rogerkver notices our big frog in our little pond. 😎

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ddockery (38) · 7 years ago

Can someone explain how the Bitcoin core Bitcoin cash debate is more complex than transaction cost and transaction speed? As a consumer, faster, less expensive transactions should win out every time.

Thoughts?

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cryptoiceman (56) · 7 years ago

I like that new BCH tumblr website idea Roger

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jomeszaros (66) · 7 years ago

You prefer BCH, fine, use any coin you want. But lying and saying that it's called "Bitcoin" is dishonest and harmful to everyone.
Ignoring 14 instances of the word 'trust' within the white paper (all in the context of the need to remove it) and only quoting the title will work on some people, some of the time. Those who dig deeper will realise that 'cheap payments' was not the motivation behind the work.
Shame on rogerkver and anyone else who takes part in this outright fraud and deception.

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departed (42) · 7 years ago

Obviously, the so called crypto community is more of a religion, than their members will dare to believe. Anyways, time is on our side.

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joyart (52) · 7 years ago (edited)

It's definitely true..... Can't wait to see this bloom; keep up the good work

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rxtro (40) · 7 years ago

I literally feel that this post has caused a war and the armies are fighting hard on both sides.

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aitrading.com (32) · 7 years ago

you got my support, man!

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samstickkz (65) · 7 years ago

I didn't eden know he was here. More reasons to use steemit,no censorship here

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broncnutz (77) · 7 years ago (edited)

I like BTC and BCH and think they both deserve a seat at the table. I respect you Roger and everything you do to help crypto in general along. It was nice meeting you in Mexico at Anarchapulco.....(I'm the guy who gave you the free Vice token door hangers) Keep doing what you do man, and don't get down by these downvoters. I think this entire community will turn all the gun barrels on these haters someday soon and this will all be sorted out. Thanks for coming back to Steemit....this platform need smart people like you,

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rollandthomas (74) · 7 years ago

Price target $1600.

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manzo (37) · 7 years ago (edited)

Bitcoin cash = trash 😝
Bigger blocks is only a short term solution❕

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

You're an idiot, as your blog can rapidly convince anyone of.

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4 votes

manzo (37) · 7 years ago

Do You think I care?
Everybody is always so sure of them selves in crypto.. Everybody shouting their favorite coin

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chrissolutions (17) · 7 years ago

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rogerkver (67) · 7 years ago

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manzo (37) · 7 years ago (edited)

Its not all about Moores law.. Dont make sense anymore in future.
BlockChain blocks aren't transistors

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

That's completely irrelevant.

Besides, Mores Law is used more as a euphemism for rapid technological innovation. Even if Mores Law is broken, that doesn't necessarily mean much in the long run.

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3 votes

manzo (37) · 7 years ago (edited)

If you think for a minute, you realize that it cant precisely double each year⚠️
its a stupid law these times.
do they want to double blocksize each year❓🤣

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

I think you need to revisit my above comment.

The blocksize can be any necessary. We might find better ways to scale in the future, who knows. LN for example is a great experiment, but unfortunately doesn't qualify yet.

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manzo (37) · 7 years ago (edited)

I agree that it is a very good experiment.
They should coexist.

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the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Once LN or another solution works well enough, we might not need to scale further or as fast on chain. But currently on chain 0-conf transactions on Bitcoin Cash are clearly superior.

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beanz (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

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acidyo (80) · 7 years ago

So first you say something that makes no sense on a blockchain like "censorship" than you go on to promote your project for the rest of the comment, got it.

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personz (66) · 7 years ago

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acidyo (80) · 7 years ago

I can't believe that a seasoned Steem influencer such as you is calling downvotes censorship.

Thank you, exactly my thoughts.

I for one more often read flagged comments than regular ones. :D

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personz (66) · 7 years ago

Yea I usually check out what the fuss is all about 😂

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9 votes

the-ego-is-you (59) · 7 years ago

These flags are just in your minds ;) I can't see any of them on Busy.org.

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muzi0202 (53) · 7 years ago

There is contradiction in the parent comment of @beanz ,it may be some true but the second part of comment is endorsement to their project. How can downvote be a censorship that too created for some self benifit.
Provide some space to breath!!!!!

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talltim (57) · 7 years ago

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michiel (68) · 7 years ago

Indeed, on r/btc you will be down voted by hundreds of paid trolls when you say something positive about BTC / negative about BCH (while it is r/BTC), he is lying at bitcoincom and tricking people in buying his altcoin while telling them it is Bitcoin. He is a scammer and when certain platforms delete scams that is their full right. He use the word censorship to make others look bad, but he is a master manipulator / scammer

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4 votes

talltim (57) · 7 years ago

Here's a great teardown that goes in depth technically and historically -- https://hackernoon.com/thats-not-bitcoin-that-s-bcash-f730f0d0a837

I recommend you read it, or anyone else who wants to understand why Very Wrong Ver is in fact, wrong.

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beanz (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

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talltim (57) · 7 years ago

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beanz (68) · 7 years ago

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michiel (68) · 7 years ago

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jomeszaros (66) · 7 years ago

Indeed. Bitcoin is the chain originating from the genesis block with the highest accumulated proof of work. The Bitcoin Cash fork failed to gain majority, thus it is not Bitcoin.

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