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in bitsandpieces •  7 years ago  (edited)

News, Rants and Thoughts

First

Still here. Not planning to stop any time soon. Some of you have commented, thinking that I was givign up. No. I am still here. I actually love posting and hosting contests. Every day I think of something I want to share, set it up in my mind. Then comes one emergency after another.

Distractions keep getting me. One call after another. One problem after another. Chasing freshdesk tickets for bumblings on exchanges keeps me from getting a post started. That is the main reason I have not been posting. I have to find new options for moving Steem and Ether from point A to point B.

open to suggestions

Second

Poloniex has lost me as a customer. They took over $10,000 worth of Steem from me recently (not the first time), and I have been writing them about it for a week. When I got no response, I started urging people I know to pull their money out as well. I have always had an eye for these kinds of things. Think about getting out while the getting is good.

Some reasons I see @poloniex failing:

  • Malfunctions on one in twenty transfers
  • They stopped answering helpdesk requests
  • Liquidity issues
  • Disabling transfers for Steem, SBD and Ethereum
  • Delisting of coins with no warning

Many of the above kinds of things were noted back in the days of MtGox and BitInstant. They fell and I had gotten out before hand. I am pretty good at being able to tell if a company is hiring enough help to maintain their customer base or not. I also can see when hot wallets are not topped off often enough, which is what causes any coin to be "disabled temporarily".

Then there is the disabling of certain coins, Steem being one of them. When @poloniex leaves Steem disabled, it forces people like me to sell the thousands of Steem I have on deposit at Poloniex, when I was planning to transfer it. In that case they are forcing investment out of Steem and Steemit. Did you notice the price of Steem? Up when Poloniex enabled transfers, and down when they "temporarily disable" it for 6 to 8 weeks. Yeah, No manipulation there.

It doesn't matter what business you own. If your customers cannot obtain the product they came for, at a reasonable price, and rely on that product being in stock every time they come... You are done! You may as well hang a sign on your door or website saying "Go somewhere else!"

A good analogy :

If you went to the store for pick up coffee and that store was out of stock, or simply had not stocked the shelf, no big deal.

If the same store again and again, and your brand of coffee is out of stock every time, you would likely start shopping elsewhere. Don't you think?

I vote with my feet. Do you?

Third

Shapeshift may as well drop Steem and SBD

Shapeshift

How about a square that shows coins when they are temporarily available? Most are unavailable, and @shapeshiftio has really dropped the ball for all of us who use Steem or SBD.

It has been months since I have seen Steem as an option. As of now, I have stopped even checking to see if it's available to transfer to/from on the site. Shapeshift is just another site that doesn't seem to care if they will stay in business.

What's up Eric Voorhees? How about we talk again on skype?

Shapeshift has always had a good exchange rate and reasonable fees. They have lost 500 transactions this year JUST FROM ME unable to use their services. What does that say? IDK, maybe Eric is happy with 40 users per day being able to change out coins, and the other 10,000 walking away disappointed. If a pizza place had those kinds of stats, they would spend more on toilet bowl freshener than flour.

Fourth

Blocktrades.us which I recently found as a site is reliable and has a fairly deep hot wallet. But they tend to take advantage in a huge way related to current coin prices. There may be a low fee but changing out $1000.00 worth of one coin to another, in reality, will cost you between $22 and $45 due to inaccurate quotes.

I had used them heavily when I started here because they are integrated in the wallet section of Steemit. I was able to send 10btc at one time and the quoted SP amount would always arrive. But again, a 10btc transfer back then still cost me $450-$600 more than if I had sold the btc on an exchange, bought Steem at a good price and then transferred it here.

Here is one reference to limits at blocktrades when I sent 10btc at once

Fifth

Bitcoins seems to be working again!

Yes, it was broken since December of 2016 and I did vote with my feet. I stopped using it completely and would not transfer bitcoin to anyone. I am personally responsible for over 80 new downloads of a wallet called coinomi which hosts many coins in one place. People needed it because I would not sell them anything but Dash, Ethereum, Dogecoin, Spitcoin, Dimplecoin, Boobcoin, or any other that would actually show the first confirmation within a five-minute period.

Bitcoin had a 400,000 to 500,000 backlog of transactions waiting on a first confirmation. That lasted for a half year and fees were high. Everyone kept setting higher fees in order to get your transaction noticed within the first two hours after sending (sickening). Now the backlog is holding steady around 40,000 waiting in the queue. So I have some btc again. Yes. Buying.

I am not sure what they did to fix it. I sold all mine so I didn't care. Now I am buying Bitcoins and transferring them into my main savings account for which I have my private key - that way I can double up when/if the fork happens.

I usually cover a variety of rants in my #bitsandpieces posts.

Sorry, I have been concentrated on avoiding the failing entities out there and thought I would put out a heads up on what I am finding.


Thanks for taking time to read and resteem! 👍

htooms

Twitter: @at_htooms

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Give Changelly a try! I use a lot without much issue. https://changelly.com/exchange/STEEM/ETH/1?ref_id=42a21bf053b1

I am testing out changelly with your link - hope you get something out of it :)

So far my experience is :
Sent one bitcoin to get 2033 steem (charging me $0.95 per steem) current price is $0.900638

  • $0.05 x 2033 = $101.00 for them just for misquoting the price.
  • There is a 5 minute limit (which Bitcoin has not been able to meet for over 6 mo.)
  • After the first confirmation, they changed the quote to 1995.72 Steem for that bitcoin
    1. Bitcoin had gone up in value by 10 dollars during that time
  • Ongoing as I write - now I am getting 1983 Steem and it has not arrived yet.
  • 1981 Steem

The good news is that it's only half as bad as blocktrades. I checked at the exact same time and they were wanting to rob me of $200.00 - giving me less Steem for the same bitcoin.

I ended up getting 9 Steem more per Bitcoin by using Changelly instead of Blocktrades. I would have gotten 200 more if I had just used Bitcoin to buy Steem on an exchange, then transfer it to Steemit.

Screenshot of BlockTrades (1).jpg

When will companies learn.

  • In order to succeed you need only give your customers reliable service at a fair price.

Thanks for giving it a look. Didn't realize the crazy difference.

It's blocktrades style. Simple.

Don't they require registration? Have you ever seen coins "down" for days/weeks at a time?

Only a email and password to exchange.
"Have you ever seen coins "down" for days/weeks at a time?" not that i have seen, i use BTC LTC and ETH STEEM.

Thanks. You are always so helpful :)

I come to know much from your post, you are so genius and efficient enough to get so much success. So I dare not to comment on your post. Just Upvoted and resteem it.

Thanks you!

So , now, I have to use which one? Poloniex or something else? Now that is more certain what.?

Now I see, the price of SBD and STEM has decreased, we who have steem should be how? Selling or how do you expect future predictions?

Personally? I never sell when any coin is dropping. I wait, then I buy all the way down.

Waaww

That is good

I will follow your way, if I have the capital, I will also invest here, but now I am collecting it again, may need process

bittrex and only bittrex

I am starting to think that Bittrex is the only option.

Looks quite promising to me

I've heard to avoid Poloniex like the plague. I'll be interested in hearing who you end up going with and why. Thanks for the update post too.

Well, I just ran a test on Changelly and it turned out great. They always have money to exchange, but they charge nearly 20% to exchange it. They stat a fee of 9.96 Steem for the transaction but the jack up the price they charge you for the Steem you are buying.

Reliable Robbery

Blocktrades is the same.

Thanks for the update

Very well said. Sorry you had to experience some losses with the exchange. I know how frustrating it can be to have money just disappear with no explanation. You did a great job at expressing your cryptocurrency experiences. From you sharing your story, readers gain insights and know what to look for when dealing with certain institutions. Great job writing this one mad props to you.

good to hear your thoughts again, and glad you're around :) Hope things settle down for you soon.
Never tried poloniex, and after reading this probably never will. I've just been with Bittrex from the beginning.

I transferred most of my property off Poloniex to Bittrex recently. Feel much better and safer now. Voting with your feet is a great analogy!

Thanks for the support. Glad to see you back ;)

Thank you @htooms for a great informative post! Resteemed! I appreciate your support!

Only bittrex

Such a great analysis and welcome back again! Upvoted and Promoted.

Hello @htooms ! We have indeed been missing you a lot these days! Was not seeing anything from you! Glad you are back with your 'rants'!
Steem On!
@progressivechef

Great stuff. I recommend using bittrex for your exchange needs for sbd and Steem. Very stable and reliable.

I have an account there and they are really good. If you blinked, you may have missed the three times in the last week they halted withdrawals from Bittrex. Again, they were nothing like those of @Poloniex which seem to be halted right after you deposit 10,000 steem. Can't transfer, forced to sell.

My opinion they halt it until everyone sells their balance, the price goes down and the insiders scoop up a bunch of cheap Steem. Then withdrawals are enabled. I am done with them as I am with Gox, Stamp, etc.

Do you mean Bitstamp with Stamp? Actually I was just starting to test them ...

Bittrex seems to be good, too, but has the disadvantage one cannot send Euro there to buy bitcoin first. That means I cannot recommend it to friends who need to purchase bitcoins as a beginning.

Which place would you suggest when living in Europe to acquire bigger amounts of bitcoins for sending them later to other exchanges to buy other crypto currencies?

By the way, very informative article!

Yes. I meant bitstamp. Sorry, I tend to use shorthand.

Bitcoin is not for large investors. It is the kind of money meant for the little guy. The developers did this on purpose so that it is harder for large investors (including the government) to buy it up and manipulate the price.

There are only 40 billion dollars worth of bitcoin world-wide currently. That means there would be enough bitcoin to supply Trump times four (if billionaires wanted to buy it up). It's not a rich man's coin.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Thank you, thank you, thank you... finally a whale that thinks the same as I do. I've been complaining on Poloniex for weeks. I have an issue with them and still no freaking response from them.

I tell people that their money is not a bit safe there. i transfered everything I had to different wallets like Kraken way better.

Here is an article about that.

Believe it or not still no response, regarding blocktrades, I'd highly suggest you to use changelly.com way better fees and is as secure as blocktrades.

P.S Thanks for showing up again, the minnows have missed you :)

It's really cruel poloniex, he makes people big loss.
Upvote and resteem @htooms

I've heard good things about Bittrex, some friends and colleagues are considering making the switch from Poloniex. Thank you for this post, I'm eager to discover the solutions you find best. In the near future we will likely follow your lead on this one.

Last night I tried to withdraw 2000 Steem two times. The second try was two hours after it had not gone through. The second one was taking a long time too. So I started emailing myself from 3 of my other email accounts and found that the email that is attached to my Bittrex account was not receiving mail!!!

This morning, I woke up to all the tests and all the withdrawal confirmation emails. Bittrex - vindicated.

Great post. Thanks for the in depth review. Curious if you have tried BitShares before, and if you have - what you think of them.

Bitshares and Steem are my two currenices :) Though I mainly use bithsares as an investment for later on, now and then for transactions between Steemit.

Hey Tim. Compicated but usable (no volume) so nearly dead.

I transferred 5000 Steem to BitShares a couple weeks ago. When tried to withdraw 1000 Steem as a test, it was transferred to some entity and got stuck there. I would have to look up what it was. I don't fully understand BitShares, but I do know that it is decentralized and uses private keys. Like Steemit, you need a lot of hand holding to get started with BitShares.

If there were more volume there, I would be trading hundreds of thousands on BitShares. "Website" exchanges can't gain more than 30k of my trust. I have seen too many of them get hacked. I am nearly all liquid right now with nowhere to put it!!! Thinking Bitcoin - Cold Storage, but with no shapeshift and bloctrades using wrong figures for coin prices - no dice.

Thanks for your feedback on it. I've tried it a small amount - similar to you, but I haven't really learned enough about it yet to really make a good judgement on it. I know a lot of the users here are very heavily involved in it, so I feel like it is probably pretty solid.

I know it's solid for sure. Just no volume so trading a full bitcoin would take weeks.

I have heard that even though there is not high volume with pending market orders, that if you put a larger order on the books that a lot of times the bots will jump in and fill it. Any experience with that?

I tried trading on BitShares about 2 months ago and never got an execution. That and the failed withdrawal are my only two experiences.

Excellent article. I completely agree. I would go further on Poloniex though. I transferred several cryptos in, sold them all for btc, sold that for Steem, tried to withdraw and had it caught in their 'approval pending' loop. 2 weeks later they refuse to answer support tickets and wont communicate and wont process withdrawals. Its pretty much theft! I will never touch them again and would advise all others to avoid. I lost a packet at Mt Gox and will not be burned again.

Great info, I don't see myself moving any steem off here any time soon, but I may want to move some steem on here. I imagine things will work out in time. Steems just been in a major boom. A year from now I bet we will have several good options for moving steem

Well, actually. I am moving steem around on steemit, but would rather not have people see where (people meaning my ex-ball&chain and t ax organizations.) I am holding too!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Poloniex is so bad and it's so sad that many people lost a lot of money because of the bullshit that has been going on. Polo will fall !

Poloniex was my first exchange (the first time is so beautiful) so I have a hard time letting go. I also use Bittrex, but I prefer Polo's UI. But the amount of issues I've been seeing lately on Polo is just ridiculous. I'm considering taking all of my business to Bittrex now.

Poloniex is losing people en masse, my husband quit using them about a month ago. In case he isn't aware of some of this I'll definitely have him read, thanks!

thanks for sharing this post

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Hi man! Happy to see you back here.

My friend, incredible what you are suffering with all those hot wallets. At no time I hear you name bittrex... I have accounts in bittrex, polo and openledger. Bittrex by far is the best, I never had any problems, but in the field of the cryptocurrency, I am quite new and perhaps you have an opinion about it...

On the other hand. I think you read some Spanish. I saw that you are talking about buying bitcoin and I repeat, I am a newbie to this, but in "El Cronista", which is a prestigious newspaper of economy in my country, they published this article a few days ago...
And I think it's risky to buy bitcoin, unless it's long term. I do not know what you think...
http://www.infotechnology.com/negocios/Por-culpa-de-la-grieta-el-proximo-mes-Bitcoin-podria-perder-hasta-50-de-valor-20170713-0002.html

Great article....

Steem being under maintenance forever makes me furious can't they just say the truth? no more poloniex for me I just had enough...

When they posted that Ethereum transfers were not working, I sent Ethereum from from one phone to another in a triangle with vpn's running on two of the three. All transactions arrived perfectly.

That... is like a three year old trying to lie to a parent. Just not believable.

Then again, three year old kids are really cute.

Glad to hear ur still staying around. Hope the stacking problems will get solved, $10k is a lot to lose, saw a similar post about Poloniex not trustworthy not too long ago

I vote with my eyes closed. 😌

Avoiding the failing entities is a full time job! Poloniex is definitely struggling.. I have used Bittrex and had decent success, but prices can be wacky there.

Good to have you back!

I am sure liquidity is a huge problem with these exchanges, but I don't know what the perfect solution is!

Agree with you friend @htooms. I will not use again poloniex, now i just believe bittrex.
Upvote and Resteem :)

Thank you for sharing
The information is very complete
I used to lose in poloniex to swarm coin

i think i agree with you @htooms

Finding a good exchange is hard... I am still searching for a good fit.

Man I'm sorry you got caught u in poloniex's shenanigans. What they are doing is so wrong on so many levels. Glad to still see you around,

lots of money has been lost due to Poloniex they don't even care to reply

I am very small-time compared to you guys, but I like blocktrades simplicity for Steem and SBD

They are definitely reliable. Really easy. But, as I said, you pay for it.

Great updates. Thanks for sharing.

I learnt a lot from your post, thanks so much. Hoping you get your 10,000 steam $ back

good read, 10k steem that's a lot.. hope polo will give it back

I don't have that much trust in poloniex. I really like bittrex. It has a nice design and it's really fast. :D

Excellent article. I completely agree.

And take yourself a day off. Do not think about anything and calm your thoughts. Turn off your phone. Take a cup of tea or coffee (I always take a bottle of wine in such cases) and just rest. Life does not stand still. Time is running out. Just allocate a little time for yourself. You can just walk in the rain or climb onto the roof of some house. Just look at the city from a height. What sort of people are all small and always in a hurry somewhere. And then come up with a contest. I think that it will be interesting. And when you rest then you will be able to find a solution to many problems. Believe me. I wish you success!