BitShares price to surge to a reportedly whopping $100.00 USD by Christmas! (2017) - BitShares ousts Bitcoin in Hong Kong and elsewhere as US and Australian Government Regulators move in

johnsmith (64) · 7 years ago

Bitshares should be in the top 3 on CMC based on current transaction/operation volumes (more than Bitcoin and Ether combined). It would take very little buying to hit $10 and a $2.5Bn cap. There is some serious manipulation going on at Polo and a couple of short whales holding the price down.

Bitshares is finally starting to get some attention as people realize centralized exchanges are crooked and can steal your money, whereas the Bitshares DEX is as safe as a wallet and doesn't require you to trust anyone - no one can 'hack' the DEX.

Bitspark is huge news and will add much needed liquidity. The perfect storm is brewing for a massive Bitshares bull run. $1 is easy, then I can see $10 coming really fast.

$100? Hell yes! Bring it on!

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

Hi John, just read that Bitcoin are about to activate their Lightning Network over the next 2 weeks:

Trustless instant nearly zero-fee transactions
Scales to billions of users
Thousands of new apps

How do you see this affecting Bitshares?

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nandibear (52) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi @sfletcher62372 correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Lightning Network going to make Bitcoin more centralized?

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your comment and I welcome free speech. You're thoughts are welcome here.

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

I'm not too sure - I'm still reading into it. I've seen that EtherBTC is also being launched (Bitcoin on the Ethereum network). I'm interested to know what the tps is for Bitcoin on the Lightning Network.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Those claims are nonsense. They are adding more trust, not less.

Too little, too late imo.

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

So what they're saying is false? I'm not invested in Bitcoin currently as I personally feel there are better opportunities elsewhere. However when I saw that about the Lightning Network it made me wonder if there was a need for @stan FastBitcoin anymore?

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Well, yes, I'd say their claims are mostly false. SegWit introduces off chain transactions. The whole point of on-chain transactions was to eliminate trust via hash power consensus.

That goes away on Segwit transactions, which basically makes Bitcoin Core Litecoin.

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jimbojones (53) · 7 years ago

$100 from 13 cents?

Total supply of bitshares is around 2billion.. to get to $100 would be impossible.

Although the price is down alot at the moment it may be a good time to buy.. but shit 2 billion is alot.

Can't expect such huge gains when the coin supply is so large.

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jimbojones (53) · 7 years ago

Interesting about the Australian parilment tho.. i am in Australia.. they are always making crazy laws lol..

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randowhale (67) · 7 years ago

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

There's absolutely no chance. Far too many BTS in circulation. The calculations don't add up. I think I saw @stan say somewhere that there was a target price of $300 per BTS. 2.5bn times 300? Even with HEROs locking up BTS and reducing supply, these figures are simply fantasy.

BTS is fast becoming the Betamax of Crypto. I had a friend message me this morning telling me I should buy OmiseGO - which is basically a decentralised exchange on Ethereum and it hasn't even been built yet! Why do people know about OMG yet not BTS?

It's really starting to become a very frustrating hold

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

I couldn't have said it better. Great comment. I've been using the betamax example too.

In markets, the best tech does not automatically win.

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

The thing is the Billion Hero Campaign is only just starting, so to realise potential value we're looking at 18 months to 2 years. So I understand there's a huge marketing campaign yet to seriously kick off around bringing it to the masses.

However why coins like OMG who have nothing but a white paper and are currently in development have more hype around it without the need for any type of marketing, it makes me think something is going wrong at Bitshares.

The price is bargain basement currently, the tech we don't need to say anything about we all know it's amazing, bar the exchange customer experience which is being worked on. It's amazing technology and one of the best products out there. Why is there no hype or conversation on the Reddit or bitsharestalk forums?

It's very strange.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

I think this is the unfortunate result of irrational markets.

Price is mostly based on hype and expectations of potential gains, at the moment. Much like the stock market, there is not a lot of fundamental-value investing going on.

That explains why still-vaporware projects are such hot news, and well-established tech with poor PR falls by the wayside.

BTS could be the result of a black swan in its favor, however, but I've found the million hero marketing to be all bark and no bite.

PS - I don't like that the Heronomex forum was hosted by a scammer, and stan's partner on stage is a borderline scammer / nutjob who displays his mental illness all over the Bitshares forums.

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

It does feel a bit like there was the big Billion Hero Campaign launch with the "Ted Talk" if you like but then you look at the website and it's not ready... Have I missed something or would you not get everything ready and then launch? I know nothing about marketing so open to being educated.

I find it strange that people are being referred to billionherocampaign.com and it's not even finished or ready. How does that make Bitshares look...

Believe me that I want Bitshares to be as successful as it can be and I want it to be as big as Stan says, I just feel like certain things aren't adding up at the moment. I'm sure this is very wide of the mark, but it literally feels like things have fallen flat since the launch on 4th July.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

I am in total agreement with you. BTS is great tech but it has a PR and usability problem.

Everything about the hero that ever came out seemed like complete marketing schlock, and BTS dumped 2/3rds shortly after. Anyone that followed their advise lost massively.

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sfletcher62372 (7) · 7 years ago

I'm trying to figure out if I've just got unrealistic expectations and am impatient, or if Stan overhyped this too much with his series of posts. We were going to have celebrity endorsements, big marketing campaigns from a huge renowned firm out of New York, have I missed something? And where is FastBitcoin? The mind boggles.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

Honestly, I was wondering if "Bitcoin Unchained", or whatever they are calling it now, had just completely distracted them from attempting to pump/dump BTS with this guaranteed-to-fail hero project.

You can't just define something to have a certain APR; the market will simply devalue it in expectation. It doesn't work that way.

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nandibear (52) · 7 years ago

Hi @sfletcher62372 it's likely because people love buzzwords and the newest and coolest coin that just came out next week .

Moreover, people want to get known and make money by talking on video and writing about the newest of the newest and outdoing everyone else.

Maybe if people (that includes you, everyone reading and myself too!) would talk more about BitShares, get excited, make some cool looking videos, cool looking pics (not some dry 1991 Wall Street Journal stoic looking pic that makes you want to eat a rice-cake for dessert and be in bed by 8:30 PM).

And whatever you do please don't do anything negative. No complaints about market caps making it impossible for prices to rise more than 5 cents. Save that for someday when they invent time machines and you can travel back to 1985.

Be happy! Think positive! The @nandibear is a friend!
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comment by @sfletcher62372 was -
"...The price is bargain basement currently, the tech we don't need to say anything about we all know it's amazing, bar the exchange customer experience which is being worked on. It's amazing technology and one of the best products out there. Why is there no hype or conversation on the Reddit or bitsharestalk forums?..."

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jamie-smith (51) · 7 years ago

So excited about buying bitshares! Thanks for the valuable tip Nandibear. I'll keep an eye on your posts for more advice on getting rich with crypto. I'll do anything to not have to work anymore crappy minimum wage jobs that require me to surrender my entire life as I know it. Great post!!

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jeffjagoe (72) · 7 years ago

That would be pretty awesome

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practicaleric (66) · 7 years ago

I hold some bitshares and that predicted $100 would be wonderful. :)

arpepa (36) · 7 years ago

Thanks for making a point about customer base movements - I have to study more of it.

At the moment I'm waiting if BTS will be able to do what IOTA achieved in a quite short order. BTS and IOTA are totally different kind of coins but circulating supplies - although not equal - are close to each other.

I'd like to see BTS move from 0,13$ to 1$ in a way IOTA did recently. After that a place in TOP10 should be nailed for a while. Many coins seem to have their momentum one after another. NEO a while ago, XMR today, BTS in August/September?

Upvoted.

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arpepa (36) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the comments and upvotes.

Playing with the idea and math a bit more:

BTS price level in the beginning: 0,13$
Timeframe: 30 days
AVERAGE price movement: 7% upwards per day
BTS price level at the end of the timeframe: approx. 0,99$
Average price movement includes/allows bigger daily up/down moves during the timeframe.

That is it if I calculated correctly. I'm not saying this is going to happen but - as mentioned earlier - I liked playing with the idea and see it as a speculative possibility. A lot may depend on how and when the marketing campaign takes off in its full strenght.

Other fundamental elements - such as positive customer base movements - help the case of BTS as well!

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nandibear (52) · 7 years ago

hi @arpepa yes absolutely customer base movements is an area which needs more study and to be taken more seriously.

appupanchal (25) · 7 years ago

with the same state of mind.

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stylez1 (25) · 7 years ago

Thanks... Interesting read... BTS... $100 would be fab...

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armshippie (60) · 7 years ago

So many Crypto currencies so little time

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bob-elr (56) · 7 years ago

Thanks for sharing

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quattrophoto (49) · 7 years ago

the whole open.btc idea is great but I think it will look suspicious to many users that they only hold bts back coins

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arcange (73) · 7 years ago

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nandibear (52) · 7 years ago

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