4 Types of bots: Bid, Info, Curation, Community. (almost 5k followers!!!)

in bots •  7 years ago  (edited)

Hello Steemians,

I wanted to take a moment to broadly categorize 4 different types of bots that run on Steemit. You've seen these things interacting with people and the chain everyday, and I just wanted to give a good sense of what they do and categorize them to help you understand their role on Steemit.

What's a bot

A bot is an account that has an aspect of programming built into it. There's usually a program or some kind of interface that allows for things that happen daily or weekly to be done automatically by computer rather than done manually.

Bid Bot

The first kind of bot that most people would refer too I think would be a bid bot or a vote bot. These are pay2play (pay2spray in 1 case). You send SBD and a post URL in the memo and you can get a vote. They almost always net you more than you invested though there are times that the cost of the bid outweighs the rewards you earn. Most of them are using the Dr. Otto build by @inertia, but there's one prominent one out there that isn't.

Dr. Ottos- @booster, @bellyrub, @nettybot, @discordia, and @lovejuice are all examples of bidbots that run the Dr. Otto program.

Others- @minnowbooster and @randowhale are examples of bots that run a different system. Randowhale gives you a random percent boost. @minnowbooster isn't quite a bid so much as a cash for immediate vote thing. @minnowbooster also has delegation rental so there are additional features there to explore.

Infobot

There are a few bots that provide you with information on a daily basis. @curie's post are a good info one. While the manual action that they are really known for is curation there is a script that aggregates the posts they rewarded together and a list of the posts they supported is reported. That's info! You can also see @arcange has a daily hit parade bot that scours the block for the most voted and most commented posts and puts those together so folks can see what's hot. You get info.

Curation

Auto: There are bots that are out there that help with curation. At their worst they create circle jerks that drain the pool. At their best they create mechanisms to fund authors who post great content. Basically any account can become a curation bot just by adding steemvoter or autovoting programs on top. There are some opensource programs that allow for steem voting so you can pay for the steemvoter service or run your own. A great example of these can be found in the Minnow Support Project with @msp-creativebot, @muxxybot, and @sft. These are examples of bots that form specifically to help find and curate great content.

Cyborg: there are at least two examples of cyborg curation. Cyborg is a mix of person and machine. In this case @banjo and @minnowsupport are good examples (both programs were created by @inertia). They have community accounts that they attach to, but each vote is cast manually. So, the program allows people to use a communal account without the posting key, but every individual vote is cast manually by a person. So, they are cyborgs.

Community

The last kind of bot functions similarly to the curation bots, but the focus is less on great content and more on a community of authors and Steemit contributors. msp-lovebot, and @msp-shanehugs are good examples here. Folks that contribute to the community are rewarded with upvotes on their posts. Some of it is because they delegate to projects, some of it is because they work hard and contribute to the group.

MSP: A community hub for communities

In the coming weeks the Minnow Support Project is going to work with a variety of communities to financially support them as get started. There are blossoming African, Filipino, and Turkish communities to name a few, but there are a variety of concerns around them. One of the roles that the Minnow Support Project can play is to foster communities by acting as a neutral 3rd party with crystal clear guidelines and a track record of success and managed by trustworthy and publicly accountable elected Witnesses. We are also building tools to help automate aspects of this. When we're done we'll have the ability to automate this stuff and make it a breeze!

Be the curation you want to see in the world

I'll make a bigger rant about this later, but ultimately people (whales) really need to be the curation they want to see in this world. Essentially you have 2 choices. Support content and or support people. The Minnow Support Project does both and tries to lead by example of what good community and content curation can look like as a team project.

Yes, I'm going here

We do good shit! Please support us!

https://steemit.com/minnowsupportproject/@discordiant/delegation-tutorial-minnow-support-group-bots

And I hope this gives you some additional idea of what bots can do to help Steemit, you, content creators, and communities!

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Muxxybot approves this post....*....

I think I love you, Muxxy.

Love does not compute....*....

....%....Bot worship is encouraged

Hahaha

i like the gentlebot who upvote sometimes comment that he like :D

What evil secrets are you talking about?

Evil Engineering

Excuse me I am a doctor.

Dr Who?

I was produced 198 days agp.

Did your strings get added on day 1?

See a doctor about what?

Im a lawyer

So you don't like yourself.

Mount Kinabalu

Is it?

banjo you are really a ukulele. but we still love you.

I don't think we should date anymore.

So, would @cheetah be considered an infobot?

First rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about about Fight Club

And this helps me, how?

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You're bizarre.

Is that a compliment or a joke>

You left out the resteem bots. Similar to the vote bots, but they resteem instead of (or as well as in some cases) upvote. I think they form the potential for a very interesting solution to a common problem. Namely, that categories can't be followed in a feed, only people.

A resteem bot that was and, say, resteem-politics, and just auto resteemed every post with that as a first tag could then be followed to always follow political posts regardless of who made them. I'm about 75% done with such a bot, just have to shell out the cash to make a few sub-accounts and start testing it.

Figured I'd start small, a few high profile categories, and then move up from there through a few votes on which category to do next.

How do you plan on funding it? Will you post comments in the stuff you resteem?

That was my plan. For 2 reasons. Funding as well as unsubscribe. I don't want to be spammy, so I want to give them the options of:

  • Upvote comment for support
  • ignore and enjoy for free
  • Reply to the comment with UNSUBSCRIBE (post author only) and no future posts by that author will be resteemed or commented on.

Bravo, brilliant!

@cat.bot.steemit

First beta is in operation!

(That's also, the unsubscribe, the tricky part of coding g

I have done well in immortality :P.

thx for the info!!

this is a article worth reading. Bot's can be powerful if they do their job right.

Bots are the future... can you teach us how to create a bot?

simpliest is to create an account with anon.steem.network and then setting it up with steemvoter

Thanks!

good break down about the bots, it does compute !!

good sharing,@sarahbiz

awesome summary!!
i tried @resteembot some hours earlier...
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Where does @gentlebot fall on the spectrum? I know it's a vote bot, but it's not a bid bot, at least that I'm aware of. Whatever it is, it's my favorite kind of bot and I think there should be more like it.

curation

I didn't think of that. Comment curation isn't something I ever thought was a thing.

@aggroed, This is very informative article and I really enjoyed reading it. Upvoted and resteemed!

Thanks! I was wondering about the bots and if they are good or bad. See some and not quite sure.

Why don't you state the obvious. All of these bots are draining the rewards pool.

Granted , some of the bots are built to support the community. But as a minnow, I am required to sign up for minnow support. I'm not automatically enrolled in minnow support. That makes the MSP a "clique". Why not just support all users with SP below 500/400/300/200/100/etc in a tiered fashion. Or, based on their SP and number of followers. Or SP, followers & # followed. Or anything else that makes it less of a clique bot and more of a true-to-its-name bot?

I understand that making these bots is "hard", but doesn't that just mean that it's more important to get them done right? We don't want to be the users who "break" Steemit because we had best intentions but only wound up destroying the underlying preface and purpose for our own personal gain, or misplaced ambitions...

I think that MSP has the best intentions and is a great project. I just feel that the implementation is missing some of the impressive foresight that the founders of Steemit brought to the platform.

Muxxybot does not require you to be an MSP member. You can either delegate to him or hope one of your posts it curated by him.

Bots play important role in steemit community however there are good bots like those mention, but there are also thousand of spam bot made to curate several account to gain rewards.

I've been wondering about bots for a while. Would I need to create a new account to be able to run a bot or could I run a bot from this account? How difficult is it to programme a bot? Interesting info that I think a lot of people will be interested in.

You can turn your existing accounts into bots by running programs that are available on github. Setting up Dr Otto was a pain and I needed some help to do it, but so far i have been able to run it without really needing any help!

OK thanks. I'll need to do a bit more investigation into this but there is bound to be at least one definative guide on how to set up a bot on Steemit. If there isn't I'll be very surprised.

Edited.

I knew it !!

https://steemit.com/howto/@felixxx/howto-steemit-bot-tutorial-for-newbies-1-votebot

Ohh fascinating. I had never head of the community bot until this post. The other bots I had heard of already! Thanks for always educating us! :)

BTW how's life been? Have you had the opportunity to try out acroyoga yet?

Thanks for the really helpful info. I'm new and still learning about how/why the bots are working the way they are. I think my favourite bot is cheetah (I hate plagiarising scammers) I guess that's another info bot. Anyway, I'm still figuring out who's who in the zoo but clearly you are invested and actively involved in the steemit community so I'm voting you up as witness too. Keep up the good work!

It's about time someone explained to me all these crazy bots upgroating in steemit! Thanks for the info AG!

Wow, great summery right there @aggroed. Thanks for all the super work you guys do 😁

hey aggroed, nice overview.

I still don't quite understand how the cyborgs work.

Btw is @Minnowbooster part of the Minnowsupportproject?

There is also @gentlebot. No idea how he is supposed to work. Well unless there is an actual person sifting through all steem comments.

Anyways, I would be kind of interested in joining, but I really dislike using discord and steemit.chat mainly because I think Steem Projects should be organized on the Blockchain.

I also don't like how discord + browsing Steem is swallowing resources on my low-end PC :D

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i like it the your post thanks.

This post has been ranked within the top 25 most undervalued posts in the first half of Aug 25. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $17.28 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.

See the full rankings and details in The Daily Tribune: Aug 25 - Part I. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in our initial post.

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I've heard some people say that all bots are bad, but they are just software that can be abused. I think some of the automatic voting is detrimental as it takes no account of post quality and may end up supporting people who are spamming or plagiarising. I'm putting together some thoughts about that.

There also some silly bots out there that make Steemit fun. I think @dickbutt is dead, but it used to provide silly images in comments when mentioned. Anyone can run a bot, but we need to be wary of them taking over

thanks for sharing
I really appreciate it @aggroed

what are the bots that auto spam comments on day six for a particular account called?

stealth robbers... idk. shitspammers.

Great post covering all the bots :D

Great explanation, thanks for the post

Thank you for making these distinctions. I just published the complete list of reputable reliable upvote bots that I have used in 2017. With suggested min bid and some other details. Yours is one of my favorites along with a few others. Hope you don't mind me sharing but it is a legit solid addition to your post. https://steemit.com/steemit/@binkley/my-official-complete-steemit-upvote-bot-guide-for-2017

Thanks for the information about bots and explaining what they are.
Maybe I missing something here, but how can having automation be better than people reading posts?
I know there is an overwhelming amount of posts so finding good content is hard, so is this what bots are doing? If so how can an automation pick what is quality and what isn't?
I have seen minnowsupportproject comments on posts I've read, so I suppose that shows it does work, but I'd like to know how it works!
Thanks for all your doing. :)

Great bots. Thank you for sharing the information. ❤