Holy Crap! What's Causing the Massive Sell-Off in Crypto?

in busy •  6 years ago  (edited)

I was just leisurely browsing through Coin Market cap and saw insane declines on all the coins. Steem down to $.60! I'm looking around for news or rumors that could cause such sell-offs and most are saying it's the upcoming Bitcoin Cash hard fork.

Why?

I can understand Bitcoin affecting the overall market but a hard-fork of Bitcoin Cash? WTF? There has to be something else at play here.

Any opinions?

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Have you checked the stock market? BTC often follows the same trends. This may also be compounded with fork FUD.

But that's not important at this point. What's important is a certain user boosting unexceptional content to an exceptional degree. That user is you, @adonisabril.


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In the anti-abuse, we call that bid bot abuse and that is precisely why you are being flagged. There are far more worthy posts in the respective tags. I also noticed you are powering down so I am skeptical that you have a care about this platform. I will be auditing your blog now. I hope what you have done here is a one-off incident because, if I find more, I will coordinate campaigns for reward removal and the blacklisting of your account.

This post offers hardly any value or insight. You should be more careful about what you promote in the future.

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Boosting to an exceptional degree? are you kidding? Are you looking at what's boosted to $400-$500 on trending? And I power down without putting said money out to the exchange. IT's being spent "boosting" posts. Why don't you do your research before jumping to conclusions? Are are you such an idiot that you can't?

Have you seen 2K-3K word posts I post and gathering only responses like "great!" "Cool!" etc. I post this "unexceptional content" and it has a myriad of real responses that have more words than what I actually posted. i.e., ENGAGEMENT! Way more engagement than so-called "exceptional" content. Judgemental morons like you need to open your eyes.

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Sometimes the $400-500 makes it under the radar of those willing to moderate content around here.

That or people are scared of the bad whales and will do nothing. We know sometimes whales are prone to retaliate versus accepting criticism like an adult.

I'm working on a technical solution for that. Because bad whales behavior can be cancerous and should be addressed. It may or may not work but hell if I'm not gonna try.

I think there are certain patterns we all, irrespective of stake, should observe if we are at all concerned with collective success.

One of those is being mindful to not boost mediocre posts to Trending as often that is one of the first places new users will see and we don't want to show our ass. Do we???

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Why don't you address their(whales) circle jerking or are you not aware that's a far more toxic behavior than bot use.

Paying a bully to take rewards for you is unlikely to win many friends here, and the ones it does bring will desert you when your chips are gone.

Join us and earn that 73 reputation you paid for.
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P.S. Why don't you blacklist yourself for trying to "censor" a platform that isn't supposed to be censored? You're doing this platform more harm than good.

Oh... You're another "flags are censorship" people. Do you think words are violence, too?

Bottom line, you got caught up and called out for boosting a shitpost. That's all there is to it.

Just own up to what you are doing and stop trying to justify it. You have zero ground to stand on. What you did was fucked. Period.

If I was taking you to court for shitpost boosting, do you think we would lack evidence? Just scroll up.

You really want to keep arguing about it or do you think it would be better for you to save face and admit your wrong doing?

This is not about censorship. It's more about addressing people using bots to boost low effort user contributions.

This also compromises people actually willing to bust their ass to produce exceptional content without giving up their hard earned liquid Steem / SBD to bot owners.

Not cool, dude. Anyway, you spin it.

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Then address bots. Go after their owners. Back up your words and your resolve. Own up.

And really. Who are you to judge content? How do you measure what's good? Length of words? Pretty pics? Or did you forget engagement?

I wonder what's all your motivation behind all this...oh I get it. You want to be on the Trending page without the use of bots. Well buddy, you me and the rest of what's left in this world. How do you do that hmm? Exceptional content?

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In my opinion your post is not worth $100. You don't even have any answers as to why the prices dropped, so you basically just posted a screenshot. Don't your 9000 followers give you enough support?

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The BCH Hashwar that will start soon is influencing Bitcoin. https://cryptocoach.cc/2018/11/14/bitcoin-is-evolving/

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Could all be based on fear? I have been following the crypto market only for 2 years, but been following the stock market since 1989. Yes you can have a massive fear in stock market and the stock can fall insanely like we are seeing now. But then it is normally a reason for the fear. And as u ask, what fear is the reason now? Is it doubt on the crypto market and its future? Or is it just a correction in the market that will be lasting for some time before it will raise again!

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Usually there's a trigger and I don't know what triggered the sell off.

I don't think it has anything to do with Bitcoin Cash . It is a manipulative dump which has triggered a lot of shorts. The speed indicates it is mostly an electronic move (ie sell orders being executed automatically as price points are hit). It has dropped down just a tad below the Sep 2017 pre-boom low; so if it can recover over the next couple of days up to the previous sideways trading range and this becomes a false breakout that would then actually be a very bullish sign. If it busts though 5200 levels and convincingly breaks down then it is anyones guess how low it goes before it hits bottom. A real breakout needs time not just price to go with it.

Think about it ; if you had a few million in bitcoin after weeks of sideways trading with tightening volumes you could just dump on the market and sell, cause panic and trigger everyone's electronic sell orders , then just buy them back 4 hours later at a 15% discount. This kind of manipulation is exactly why the ETF's for bitcoin keep getting rejected.

Yeah, but it doesn't look like there are any buying back going on.

This is honestly a great positive review of the market. I really hope you are right as you make a lot of sense!

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I would have to say I too don't think the hard fork of BCH is what is causing this. I am sure that the hardfork had some affect but it was not what set the dump off. Very curious how quickly the decline took place.

It's just weird. I know pump and dumps happen but why today and how come all the coins got affected.

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Cryptos are just still way to over valued compared to use case... it’s all speculation 😀

Speculations that we bought into.

That’s the truth 😂

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Uncertainty about the bitcoin cash hard fork. Time to stock up IMO!

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I was wondering the same thing myself... Bch civil war should be contained to Bch and not affecting everything, so I am doubtful it was that.

However, I think the statement by the IMF head saying that governments should issue their own national crypto might have had a small effect?

Doesn't look like you can trust any news anymore.

Honestly, anything you here on the TV is all bullshit. It broke a massive level and it is very clear that if it doesn't take back this level very soon then the Crypto space just is NOT FUNDAMENTALLY ready to continue higher. I personally thought there would be one last true blow off before all the bullshit ALTS go to zero, but hoenstly it is better for it to tank NOW and all the bullshit aLTS go to ZERO now, than later.

If the price takes back today in the next 5 days (closing weekly candle) we may have the failed breakdown, if it stays down here expect to be accumulating for months because alot of damage has been done...

Yeah but that doesn't explain why in one day (today) it dropped significantly. Over time yes in weeks, not in one day.

In experience with several markets in several areas they all rhyme together. it was simply a breakdown of a MAJOR level. Porbably the most important level in bitcoins short history. 6100 is the level and you have everyone bailing. There are a TON of technical reasons that show this decline including BB tightening signaling a large move, the fast taht this has tested the 6000-6300 range over 10 times already each time it is going to get weaker and there were no buyers. I mean look at that wall. It broke.

I forget where I read this, but they called it last year. This does not surprise me at all. Hang on folks! We might be in for a hell of a ride!

I don't think it is a convincing breakout to the downside yet. It is too fast (time wise) to call that yet and the move is likely electronic stops being triggered and it has not gone past the Sep 17 low convincingly. It could easily be down to simple price manipulation when in such low volume sideways trading (see my comment to
@adonisabril). Time will tell as always. If it breaks down past 5200 with high volume confirmation then there is no telling how low it can go.

Convincing breakouts usually happen fast...maybe it was manipulation at first but this is a cascade of retail dumping here. Also not sure why 5200 is the level? 4800 would be the next stop IMO which coincides with an 80% drawdawn from top to bottom that has happen over 6 times in bitcoins history and this will be the seventh

Yes seems that way now. Steem seem to be dropping faster and further as well.

There seemed to be a lot of tension in the market after months of sideways trading, my uneducated guess is that traders were waiting anxiously for any sign indicating if the market was going up or down, and were ready to sell or buy at the first significant pump or dump. Some whales sold, they followed.

"The recent movement of the market was predicted by a number of industry experts, who also suggest that the bear market would last beyond this year."
https://cointelegraph.com/news/markets-see-massive-selloff-bitcoin-dips-below-5-600-for-the-first-time-in-2018

"Kelly says bitcoin tanked because of concern over a "hard fork" or "effectively a software upgrade" in bitcoin cash."
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/14/bkcm-brian-kelly-crypto-civil-war-slams-bitcoin-but-not-for-long.html

i think the main reason is Chinese miner shutdown their facility. hash rate has drastically drop.

According to me
This all darma happens to
Whales and whales want to earn profit
Or create the panic situation and bakkt platform also a main factor

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I noticed it right after the worst part happened lol. I think Binance going down for upgrades might have caused some FOMO due to the large volumes Binance handles. Could be one contributing factor. Also the BCH fork. BCH has managed to stay in the green during this.

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