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After my post yesterday, I received a number of messages on Discord asking if I would leave Steem over Hard Fork 21.

To start, in spite of some of the attacks levied against me (one extremely personal), I would not leave Steem over a disagreement. Do I believe EIP is going to be the magical formula it is being sold as? Not by a long-shot. I think the idea that people are going to change their behavior to toe the line does not make sense to me. Those who are manipulating the system are going to figure out a way to keep doing so.

That aside, there is something that I always promoted about Steem. Many like to attack this blockchain like it is unique. What is being experienced on here is not uncommon in this industry. The ones who regularly attack Steem are the ones who do not look at what is taking place on other chains. Ignore pricing action and hype, instead looking at what is truly taking place.

Regardless of what comes down with Hard Fork 21, there are two things that Steem has over most other blockchains.

Fast AND Free

This is so valuable. Ethereum is neither fast nor free. Same with Bitcoin. EOS is mega-fast but it is not free. With the introduction of MIRA, there is a chance that the cost to operate this blockchains goes DOWN over time. That is mind-boggling.

We are one day away from the supposed announcement relating to MEOS. June 1 is the day that EOS will be making a lot known and introducing Steemit 2.0 (I still do not know what that means). We all know there was a great deal of hype surrounding it and I give Dan credited for doing a terrific job of garnering interest.

The question is what is it going to be? I read someone on here (I wish I could remember who it was) who said, with EOS, buy the hype and sell the news. In other words, the reality is not going to match the hype.

I can agree with this.

The truth is that it takes a lot more than a better algorithm to make a successful social network. Now I am sure Dan learned a lot from his previous ventures and will look to improve upon it. He could have wonderful things that he introducing. Yet to think this is going to be a success overnight is a bit presumptuous.

MEOS might end up being a fine platform. There is no reason to believe there won't be multiple social networking platforms that succeed. I am sure there will be.

Yet, as we learned on Steem, it takes time for people to get involved. Human tendency to switch what they are doing, is often slow. When we look at the entire cryptocurrency space, it is still very small. This means that MEOS will have many of the same problems as Steem.

For example, is MEOS instantly going to make cryptocurrency easy for people? The average person does not know how to handle keys and are accustomed to getting a new password when things are lost. In crypto, that is not the case.

Are they going to immediately overcome the stigma associated with cryptocurrency that the media pounded into people's heads over the last two years? We all know from talking to friends and family that people look at us strange when we bring it up. Why does anyone believe it will be any different over there?

Another point, as I tried to drive home over the past year plus, the distribution of Steem is in line with what else is out there. While that might not be consoling to some, the fact is we do have a situation that is changing. Steem is only three years old. Over that time, there were a ton more Orcas, Dolphins, and Minnows created.

EOS decided to address the distribution problem by having a year long ICO. The result was 10 wallets holding almost 50% of the tokens. The entire idea behind the ICO was to not fall prey to what happened to other blockchains. Unfortunately for most, this is exactly what happened.

The great part about Steem is we can have our differences. I am against Hard Fork 21 in spite of what some are proclaiming. I made that point perfectly clear. Some are optimistic about the change in behavior and we will see how it unfolds. The good thing is the metrics will be obvious in the first 90 days.

There is, however, an even more basic point to the question of would I leave Steem and this, in my view, pertains to everywhere?

Where are you (or I) going to go?

We are in the early stages of cryptocurrency/blockchain and to believe that we are unique in our problems is completely false. In fact, the stuff be debate about on here is minor compared to what other chains are going through.

Consider the Ethereum world and trying to figure out how to increase the speed of the network. Can you envision the fights about whether to keep POW or go POS? Bitcoin seems to be good for a fork every few months (they are about due for one). EOS, for all the money and hype, started off with governance issues, questions about immutability and decentralization, and a run up in the price of RAM.

So am I still optimistic about Steem even if I don't get my way with the Hard Fork?

Absolutely. You cannot beat Fast AND Free. This is one of the major things that separates this blockchain from most of what else is out there.

I am not one to hope against something working just so I can be "right" on the Internet and type "see I told you so". In spite of my reservations, I do hope whatever form the next Hard Fork takes, it is a raging success. Even if it is not, Steem is strong enough to weather whatever happens.

There is another advantage Steem has. We are ranked number 62 in market cap and nobody on the outside gives a sh*t about us. Contrary to what everyone thinks, that is a major advantage for a start up implementing new protocols and technology.

Basically, if we f**k everything up, other than ourselves, few are going to notice. Sure, Dan might tweet some more stuff about Steemit Inc. but, at the end of the day, few will care. Compare that with EOS where every hiccup is national, crypto news.

So we have the advantage we can stumble, fumble, and jump into all the alligator pits we can find. As long as we keep trudging along, we have the ability to keep moving on the forward path.

We adjust and adapt. I have the pic at the end of my post that says "Vision 2025". This is a long-term view. Nothing is going to be set in a year or two. Bull or bear, matters little. Steem is not going to zero and it will be a blockchain that is around for years to come.

One final thought: whatever is introduced by Block One is going to be open source. That means that the code is out there for any developer to look at. It could be something that he comes up with that can be implemented in Steem.

None of this is the end of the world nor Steem.

Steem is here to say.


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As always you make great points and show balance and common sense in the face of hype.

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MEOS can be the first real competitor for Steemit. They have the expertise and an incredible amount of funding which Steemit does not have.

I think it’s important that we need to keep improving.

I also think the low ranking of Steem is not good. Usually when a coins falls that much behind, it will not recover.

Some are optimistic about the change in behavior

when a blockchain is making changes to effect 'behaviour' that's not the all singing immutable premise that we started with, that's a middle class trying to stick a class bouncer on the front door and your name is not down so you're not coming in ;) i say whoever embraces the ALL instead of the WE will win in the blockchain battle.

I also go out and check MEOS but not leaving steem... Just like what I did to whaleshares, bearshare, smoke, scorum, weku and other steem copy. I go but not leaving...

Absouletly i will do same.

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Just seen EOS launch a biometric code.... Might solve the problem of on boarding and 1 account/1 vote ideology.

EOS did also buy 20 million dollars of ram couple days ago and introduced Rex in which anyone can build a dapp or run a project cheaply.

Seems interesting.

The chance I am giving Dan my eyeball scan is zero.

Well I use a couple of eos dapps and I am not bad about it. If we are content creators there is nothing wrong with cross posting in my opinion.

I feel that here in the Steem blockchain I have found my community. I have been greeting a lot of support and growing as a content creator and as a person.

No matter what eos will do with the meos (that I will for sure check) I feel that people need to realise the potential and the power we have in our Blockchain.

People can't be hypnotised by every single new shinny object.

We have a huge potential in here that is still to unveal and I think that will only start happening when everyone really start believing in that.

But as content creators we need to pay our bills and if there are stuff out there where we can be also creating and adding to our income... Why not right???

I invested too much time and effort in Steem to start all over again, from scratch. I don't think I would have the patience to do it. Unless... you all move with me.

Staying here. But will use MEOS too.

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Highly rEsteemed!

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*stay

One of ur last words ;)

Happy to have you here!

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I love reading you. You always bring intelligence and positivism to Steemians

Agree. Super curious about what they're gonna reveal, but not scared. SPUD2 is on, as well :-)

Pretty much what I just posted. I've had my say, cast my witness votes and from there will see how it all unfolds but at the end of it I still intend to be here in 5 years time. Hopefully with a substantial SP to back it up.

I think, like you sorta say, Steem has a strong insular community and won’t just die due to EOS or any other coin. There’ll definitely be pitfalls but we will push though and I think our 2025 prognosis is bullish!

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Steem is here to stay and so am I which is the right attitude as we work all together to build it and improve when we can. Adding value is the fundamental need we need to think about!

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I took profits already 😂😂😂

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Steem was the synthesis between dan and stinc, et al.
As long as neither side got exactly what they wanted things were fine.
Now, not so much.

The 50/50 is a money grab by whales.
The convergent curve only takes from small votes while leaving big votes as they are. (I could be wrong.)
Another money grab.

Those that abuse flags will now have 25% more to abuse.

As long as the glaring wrongness of these changes are remedied quickly, experimenting is good.
If we are stuck being abused even more for more years, well, it will be a buying opportunity.

Fast and free is hard to beat.

Makes me wonder why dan would include fees on eos.

Cool!

Two point I have to address though..

  1. Bitcoin isn't fast and free that's becuase that's not what Bitcoin is going for. So it's ites not really a minus point for Bitcoin. (basically, touting a blockchain as fast and cheap won't automatically make it better than bitcoin, that doesn't mean it will be useless, fast and free still have uses just that it would not overlap the value provided by Bitcoin).

  2. Game theory - the whole point of making a system worthy of use is to incentivize "abusers" to do things that would benefit the whole ecosystem as a byproduct of profiting themselves. Case in point, bitcoin is designed so that Bitcoin miners will provide security to the network at the same time making profit for themselves, they don't give half a hoot about bitcoin network security but the only way for them to make money is providing a security moat for the Bitcoin network to thosw who seek to 51% attack the network. And it is in their best interest to not let people think bitcoin is unsafe since if people doubt the security and store of value offered by Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin would tank as it broke its fundemental basis of value. They would not fall into offer to reorg the blockchain, Ergo the cost to entice miners to reorg must be higher than the long term prejected profit from a safe and secure bitcoin.

Other than that, I pretty much salute your pledge to stick to the steem community.

Personally I'd try out MEOS myself and make my decisions afterward. Afterall, tech darwinism is a real thing.

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Very well said. In many parts of the economy we see the same thing.

A lot of Facebook killers have come and gone. The same goes for mmorpg's. Many complain about world of Warcraft, but come back when a new update hits.

Several producers have build World of Tanks killers, games that are more visually attractive, might have better game mechanics. But still it is the biggest tank game out there and I don't think that is going to change.

People might try out the new thing, but the majority will stay with what they know, the thing they have invested in and where their friends are. Most people don't like change.

I tried to get on the EOS platform, because I like to try something new. Even when none of my friends are interested.

I followed instructions on how to get username, keys and some EOS and somehow failed. Needless to say I'm not that positive anymore about eos.

I'm sure they will be able to build a nice community, but they will not replace Steem.

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The result was 10 wallets holding almost 50% of the tokens.

main thing is probably who those 10 wallets are and what will they do with it. maximizing profit or helping the network.

did not look at the project, but i will check what is going on for sure. I am here 18 months and did not spend any steem so will not now. and i do feel that after eip new and small acc will suffer, no one told me that they will not and why so i think they know it to...

Hard to tell who owns the wallets. BlockOne is one of them but they could be 10 separate entities/people or all owned by one.

There is no telling.