This is simply the way that I see it.
There are two main reasons that I do not believe in "Good Friday." The first is that Jesus Himself said that He would be in the grave "three days and three nights" (Matthew 12:40) and this makes a Friday crucifixion impossible in my mind. Perhaps if He had just said three days we could reason that otherwise, but that it not what He said. If Jesus lied, then He is not the Messiah.
The other reason comes from Exodus 12, interestingly enough. Basically, I do not believe that the death of Jesus Christ was based on the Passover lamb, but rather that the feast of Passover was based off of what He would actually do. I explain more in the video.
Ultimately, I think this is one more case of tradition replacing truth, which is very common these days in Christianity. Thankfully, we can all "search the scriptures daily to see what it true" (Acts 17:11) and we do not just have to believe what we are told. Enjoy the video!
WHAT I BELIEVE
Until next time…
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I totally agree and the fact that "good Friday", lent, and Easter all stem from pagan holidays. The Jews celebrate their holidays on their own calendar not the the one used by the pagans or the one we use today.
Exactly! Jesus was fulling the prophecy.
Totally and this is why I do not celebrate Easter as the day Christ rose. It was Rome that merged the faith in Christ with the pagan traditions. We should be thankful and praise His name daily for what he did to save us, not just once a year.
Great post Brother!
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Dear @jrswab,
You are correct in that the Scriptures need to be interpreted in the light of the Hebrew culture and the ordinances of the Torah.
In regards to “Palm Sunday”:
Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem was on Nisan 10 when the lambs were selected for the Passover sacrifice, it is relatively simple to prove it wasn’t on a Sunday.
Nisan 7 is the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath (Saturday). Three days later is Nisan 10 – Tuesday.
In regards to “Three days and Nights” please read my post:
HOW WAS JESUS ABLE TO CELEBRATE PASSOVER AND YET BE CRUCIFIED ON PASSOVER? How Can Friday Afternoon to Sunday Morning Be Three Days and Nights?
https://steemit.com/christianity/@lastdays/how-was-jesus-able-to-celebrate-passover-and-yet-be-crucified-on-passover
Blessings and Shalom, Steven Sherman @lastdays
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Glad that you see how much tradition has change the masses beliefs.
Research is the key.
Keep on seeking the truth.
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Thanks man!
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Great video! It is crazy how we have all followed tradition blindly in our lives. It wasn't until 2 years ago that I figured out what you are talking about that good friday is either not possible or Jesus is a liar. I am going with good friday not possible. Keep up the good work.
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Yup, me too. I'll take a Saviour over a tradition any day. I don't really need a tradition, but a Saviour however...
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Dear @bowentroyer,
The Scriptures need to be interpreted in the light of the Hebrew culture and the ordinances of the Torah.
In regards to “Palm Sunday”:
Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem was on Nisan 10 when the lambs were selected for the Passover sacrifice, it is relatively simple to prove it wasn’t on a Sunday.
Nisan 7 is the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath (Saturday). Three days later is Nisan 10 – Tuesday.
In regards to “Three days and Nights” please read my post:
HOW WAS JESUS ABLE TO CELEBRATE PASSOVER AND YET BE CRUCIFIED ON PASSOVER? How Can Friday Afternoon to Sunday Morning Be Three Days and Nights?
https://steemit.com/christianity/@lastdays/how-was-jesus-able-to-celebrate-passover-and-yet-be-crucified-on-passover
Blessings and Shalom, Steven Sherman @lastdays
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Thank you for being bold enough to post this. To go in the opposite position of Christianity is not easy, even though as you said the truth is right there in the Bible! Will you and your family be observing the Passover in any way this year?
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Dear @simms50
The Scriptures need to be interpreted in the light of the Hebrew culture and the ordinances of the Torah.
In regards to “Palm Sunday”:
Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem was on Nisan 10 when the lambs were selected for the Passover sacrifice, it is relatively simple to prove it wasn’t on a Sunday.
Nisan 7 is the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath (Saturday). Three days later is Nisan 10 – Tuesday.
In regards to “Three days and Nights” please read my post:
HOW WAS JESUS ABLE TO CELEBRATE PASSOVER AND YET BE CRUCIFIED ON PASSOVER? How Can Friday Afternoon to Sunday Morning Be Three Days and Nights?
https://steemit.com/christianity/@lastdays/how-was-jesus-able-to-celebrate-passover-and-yet-be-crucified-on-passover
Blessings and Shalom, Steven Sherman @lastdays
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A agree with your argument. I figured this out about 4 years ago and have not celebrated Christmas or Estar since. I never thought of the lamb representing the messiah but it makes sense since Yeshua is the first born and has always existed before the first Passover in Egypt. We are celebrating Passover this Friday evening. Do you celebrate Passover?
May YHVY bless you and keep you.
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Dear @hhayweaver,
I am having a full Messianic Passover Seder with my congregation tomorrow.
As a Jewish believer in Yeshua (Jesus) as the Son of God and Messiah (Christ), I am sharing my understanding of the natural and spiritual fulfillments that are foreshadowed in the Festivals of Yehovah in a series of posts.
Following are links to two of my posts. I am sure that they will bless you:
TONGUES OF FIRE, EL SHADDAI, AND PENTECOST
https://steemit.com/christianity/@lastdays/tongues-of-fire-el-shaddai-and-pentecost
CHRIST WAS CRUCIFIED, ENTOMBED, AND ROSE FROM THE GRAVE ON THE FESTIVALS OF YEHOVAH
https://steemit.com/christianity/@lastdays/christ-was-crucified-entombed-and-rose-from-the-grave-on-the-festivals-of-yehovah
Shalom, Steven Sherman @lastdays
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Friday to Sunday has always been wrong. Jesus died Wednesday night and woke up Saturday Night, if we are considering the same days of the week at that time. That gives 3 full days and 3 full nights.
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Had to laugh at this it goes along great with this post.
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Reading through the comments like “Hmm, more like-minded people to follow.”
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I know! I thought the same thing.
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SAME HERE! : - D
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Dear @papa-pepper,
The Scriptures need to be interpreted in the light of the Hebrew culture and the ordinances of the Torah.
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:40
According to Hebrew understanding, any part of a day, however small, is included as part of a full day.
When Jewish parents count eight days for brit milah (circumcision), they include the day of their son’s birth. Therefore, any part of the day is included as a full day. Whether their child was born one minute after midnight, at noon, or at any time during the day – it counts as a full day.
This phenomenon is exemplified in Scripture in the book of Esther:
"Go, assemble all the Jews who are found in Susa, and fast for me; do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my maidens also will fast in the same way," Esther 4:16
Then, in Esther 5:1 it says,* "Now it came about on the third day that Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the king’s palace in front of the king’s rooms, and the king was sitting on his royal throne in the throne room, opposite the entrance to the palace."*
We can see that even though the three days and nights had not been completed, Esther went in to see the King on the third day even though she said to fast for three days and nights. We see that “on the third day” is equivalent to “after three days.”
Shalom, Steven Sherman
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Dear @papa-pepper,
Christmas is not even the season that Christ was born. The shepherds watched the sheep in Bethlehem that were to be sacrificed either in the spring or fall and not in the winter. But the Roman Catholic Church established this non-biblical holiday and it was carried on by the Protestants as well.
Easter is based upon the solar calendar and not the Hebrew lunar calendar. The resurrection of the Messiah took place on the third day after his crucifixion. Again Catholic tradition instituted a non-biblical holiday . In 2017 Passover started on Tuesday, the 11th of April but Easter in 2017 was on Sunday, April 16 - 5 days after His crucifixion.
In other words, these Christian holidays are not celebrated on the day of the month or even in the season that the event occurred.
I am saying all this to confirm that Palm Sunday is a celebration that again was instituted to commemorate an event but is not accurate as to the calendar date of the event.
You can't start on the first day of the week because a Sunday is not the day of the week that Jesus had his triumphal entry into Jerusalem.
The seventh day of each week is the weekly sabbath. Jesus was crucified on Nisan 14 when the lambs were slaughtered for the Passover.
During the first week of the month, Saturday was Nisan 7. Therefore, Sunday was Nisan 8, Monday was Nisan 9, and Tuesday was Nisan 10.
That's why I do not believe in Palm Sunday as the actual date,
Shalom, Steven
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Interesting, for some reason I thought it was recorded that His "triumphal entry" was on the "first day of the week." I agree that those other "holidays" have nothing to do with anything Christian or Christ-related and instead were just made to seem that way. Thanks for checking this out Brother.
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Good one, Papa... great thinking and logic.
However, the point of Christian celebrations and feasts are not to re-enact exactly what happened, but to remind us of it and the lessons to be learnt. That's why the early fathers were content with converting other traditions into Christian ones. I'm sure you know the case of Christmas day itself not being the true date nor even the correct period... it has become quite popular. Still @jrswab is correct --we should remember these lessons and celebrate Him everyday.
What do you think?
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It is true that the early fathers did those things but God commanded his people NOT to do the things the heathens do, it is an abomination. As for me I am going to try to follow God's wishes rather than the traditions of the early fathers.
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Depend on personal perspective and feeling i also dont blieve in good friday thanks for the infor @papa-pepper
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this is a good post but I do not comment much on this post @papa-pepper.
Therefore according to each belief.
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@papa-pepper
well! from your argument, with no offense, I think you got it wrong. now Good Friday signifies the commemoration of the death of Jesus Christ at Calvary, and its observed during Holy week as part of the paschal Triduum on the Friday preceding Easter Sunday, the reason been that Jesus died at the time of the Jewish Passover, traditionally held on the first full moon following the vernal equinox.
now from Mathew 12:40, He said for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. verse 41: the men of Nineveh will rise up at the judgement with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and behold, something greater than Jonah here. then underline this last statement "behold something greater than Jonah is here" and figure it out yourself.
thanks for the post.
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Yeah, but that last verse doesn't get rid of this statement "the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"
Also, regardless of what day of the week it happened, it certainly happened, and at least we can agree on that! Thanks man.
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@frank4jesus There is no such thing as the "Jewish Passover." The Passover was established by Yahweh and it is the begining of his 7 annual appointed times.
It is Yahweh's Passover, not the Jewish Passover. The Jews make up one tribe (Judah) of the twelve tribes of Israel. All of Israel, whether native born of the 12 tribes or the strangers from other lands that also entered in to Covenant with Yahweh, kept the Passover.
I'm sorry but Holy week and Paschal Triduum are just man made traditions not found in scripture. Furthermore if we look at the use of eggs and rabbits in the "easter" celebration, we can find the origins of those practices in worship of the goddess Ishtar, and worship practices of another god or goddess have no business being mixed in with the worship of Yahweh.
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Good point!
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They present some of this things as sacred and unquenchable, but if we actually search the scripture, we would see something different to what we were told.
Searching the truth from the scripture does not mean we are trying to rewrite the scriptures, but to have a clear understanding of what the scripture is all about. Anyways, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.
Thank you for this insight, I never see things that way not until now.
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Well said!
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Yes sir
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This is an interesting insight @papa-pepper. I too will look into it. Someone once showed me that in some certain Bible translations, some verses were missing and it was true. Also some presently celebrated dates are no where to be found in the Bible.
But I believe this glitches and errors are signs of end times, or possibly devils way of just knocking Christians heads together.
God save us all.
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Dear @lizbethk
The Scriptures need to be interpreted in the light of the Hebrew culture and the ordinances of the Torah.
In regards to “Palm Sunday”:
Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem was on Nisan 10 when the lambs were selected for the Passover sacrifice, it is relatively simple to prove it wasn’t on a Sunday.
Nisan 7 is the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath (Saturday). Three days later is Nisan 10 – Tuesday.
In regards to “Three days and Nights” please read my post:
HOW WAS JESUS ABLE TO CELEBRATE PASSOVER AND YET BE CRUCIFIED ON PASSOVER? How Can Friday Afternoon to Sunday Morning Be Three Days and Nights?
https://steemit.com/christianity/@lastdays/how-was-jesus-able-to-celebrate-passover-and-yet-be-crucified-on-passover
Blessings and Shalom, Steven Sherman @lastdays
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I agree completely! Teach your children well!
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Thank you @doctorjohn!
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Hmmmmm! Thoughtful. Got me thinking critically.
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very nice video tnx for shereing
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Unlike how we track a 24 hour day from midnight to midnight they tracked a "Day" as starting at dark. So when the sun went down on your day you started a new day that included the night BEFORE the light.
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I do agree with you, sir. People at the time does not track 24 hour day. Besides, this verse proves that it was a Friday.
"Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen cloth and placed it in a tomb cut in the rock, one in which no one had yet been laid. It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin."
Luke 23:53-54 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/luk.23.53-54.NIV
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I think this is why some people argued that he actually rose on a Monday.
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One thing to consider in that conclusion and using that verse is that the first day after Passover is when the Feast of Unleaven Bread begins. The first day is a special sabbath. Any day of the week following the Passover in any given year would have been a sabbath. If Jesus was crucified on Thursday, then Friday and Saturday would have both been sabbaths that week.
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Haven't they celebrated the Passover the day before Jesus was crusified?
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Ahh i see you did count the night first.. :)
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Yup, it adds up to three days and three nights that way and matches the Exodus 12 passage.
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I opened my mouth before i finished watching your video..
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Lol, it happens.
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There are so many man made doctrines and traditions that have over the years been made to look like its in the Bible and some of us can't tell which is which because like you said not everybody can search the Bible for proves . Cool insight.
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Thank you!
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I understand your point of view. However, it was in recent years that I have heard that in Jewish tradition, "three days" didn't necessarily mean three x 24-hour days, but rather that each partial day counted towards the "three days", i.e. Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
I also note that in the UK, Easter Monday, is also observed, but here in the US, it is seen as impractical (I guess) to have another day off, so it has been mostly lost. Easter Monday works better with our understanding of "three days".
I rarely play videos, so I confess to not having listened, but only read your article. But I do believe that few things in the Bible happen (or are said) for only one reason. Usually (from my experience), where there are multiple possible interpretations, it often means "all" (or at least "most") of the possible interpretations. Written words were expensive in those days and rarely wasted on tablets, scrolls, etc.
Hence, I do believe that Jesus was the Passover lamb as well as the sacrificial lamb. The analogies are endless so that we can have a better understanding in our day and age.
Anyway, just my thoughts on what you wrote. Thanks for sharing.
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And this is the main reason why you need to READ YOUR BIBLE! He said, she said turns to hearsay.
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Hearsay or heresey? Or both maybe?
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To me they equate to the same ;-)
https://wikidiff.com/hearsay/heresy
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posts that I really like. and hopefully I will be like you in the future. friend please help me.
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Nice point you made @papa-pepper!! I will say you are correct. probably it was fixed by man just as they fixed 25 December as Jesus Christ birthday. I will make my own research about the issues. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Blessings.
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Good point, that's another one!
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Well, everyone has his right to believe whatsoever he or she wants. What you re actually debating about has been in existence before most of us were born. We have great minds and intelligent people who re Christians and yet they believe in it. So its all left to us. Believe what is right to you and let others make their own choice. To me i believe in the Holy Friday. Thank you
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Thank you for checking it out!
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I agree with your disagreement!
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Well said, it took a minute. Thanks!
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I agree with your post
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My co-worker @fromthebeginning is posting the entire Bible on Steemit. He's just into Exodus today. He won't resteem anything because he wants it to be from start to finish with nothing in between. I commend his dedication.
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Cool, glad to hear it. @Verbal-d is working on a Bible project too!
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We all have choices, they are up to us.
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But you already did.
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Sorry, I've offended other people. Once again, I am sorry.
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Then don't. Muslims have a lot of reservations about other peoples religion but when the Islamic religion is questioned, they call it blaspheming and starts pulling out knives and swords. You don't want to criticize but you are already insinuating
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Sorry, I've offended other people. Once again, I am sorry.
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I'm sorry. Sorry for that, I do not want to make this a prolonged feud.
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Interesting points. I hadn't really thought about it. I don't really think about the days in between. If it was 3 days and 3 nights, then it was. However that lines up is great with me. I've always focused more on the person himself, not the date he died. Still, I found your video informative. Either way, party on Sunday! :D
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Good point!
Haven’t really thought much about it till you pointed it out here.
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Wahahaha... 100% correct @papa-pepper!
I can't believe that you are really an observer and smart in the word of God!
No one or anyone can't find the word Good Friday in the bible! I will give my kneck if they can find! So, I am with you! Amen!
And correct again!
The death of Jesus Christ was not based on the Passover lamb! And again, I will give my kneck if they can find! So, I am with you! Amen!
I hope in God's will, their mind will be open and think properly because there is one very important message from God, read this.
Deuteronomy 12:32
32 - Whatsoever you perceive to be the Lord's will, that you shall observe to do; you shall not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Remember these friends. The Bible is full of logic and we can not add or subtract even a stroke or dot cannot be added.
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Very valid verse!
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Good job my little hobbit:) Upvote for You
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honestly thank you for posting this. too much false information is spread around today!
shalom, god bless.
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So many great points @papa-pepper! I don’t know how I missed this post yesterday. When I looked yesterday the last was the green corn, then bam, so many posts. I can see you are a deep thinker and a nonconformist. This is great as many times what “everyone” believes is really horsehockey. I really like your point about the Passover in Exodus being based on the death and Resurrection of Jesus, instead of Jesus being based on the Passover Lamb!
I am more and more looking at God amd pomdering His reality outside of time. The only thing we know is a life inside of time.
1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
So when we read bible prophecy especially end time prophecy, it is not so much God making all of these final events happen, but He has already seen these events like they happened today. HE ALONE IS AWESOME!
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Good pos @papa-papper,sukses selalu untuk kamau
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Not 100% sure what you mean by 3 days. But we know he died on Friday because it says they had to hurry and take Jesus off the cross because the Sabbath was starting. Sabbath starts on Friday at sunset and ends on Saturday at sunset. We know that Jesus's tomb was empty on Sunday morning, but we don't know 100% the time he rose. Jesus could have risen technically Saturday night, and that would technically be considered Sunday already for the Jews.
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