Iridescent clouds increasing in frequency: what does it mean?

minismallholding (69) · 6 years ago

I only recently came across this phenomenon and the man who showed it was photographing what he believed to be chemtrails, so he was, of course, leaning towards that explanation. To be honest, his photos weren't the most convincing when it came to chemtrails, more like contrails, so at the time that cloud seemed like a clincher. Interesting to have another explanation for it. I'll continue to keep an open mind.

I don't think I'm likely to see any if it's due to ice crystals, as we're not a cold country and when it is cold enough, there's usually complete cloud cover.

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samstonehill (73) · 6 years ago

I understand now that cumulus clouds all have ice crystals. Though this still doesn't explain why the sightings have increased so much in recent years. Unless of course it is simply getting colder up there.

There are a lot of chemtrails in this region so it is possible the two things are connected. My mind is still flooded with upcoming ice age theories, so the 'colder up there' explanation seems to fit quite well!

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darth-cryptic (58) · 6 years ago

Cirrus clouds always contain ice crystals so ice crystals in clouds are not and have never been unusual. I would think the iridescent appearance would depend on the angle of the sun when they are visible and perhaps other atmospheric factors. Cirrus clouds form between 16,500 ft and 45,000 ft so the altitude they are at probably matters too. I would suspect that cirrus clouds are able to form at lower altitudes more often at more northern latitudes but I'm not certain of that.

As far as there being more images of such effects recently that could be due to a number of factors. The obvious one is that they occur more often now as you mention. But it could also be because more people are taking photographs every day or because a conspiracy theory has brought more attention to them. I live in Florida and can't say that I see them too often but now I'll probably start paying more attention and therefore seeing them more often. The problem is perception can be very subjective without collecting actual data. Can you tell for sure if they are really occurring more often or are you just paying more attention?

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samstonehill (73) · 6 years ago

Thanks for the cirrus cloud update! Wasn't aware till now they are all composed of ice crystals.

I do agree with your point that once we are aware of something we tend to see it more.

As I mentioned in my article I've been shooting timelapse films for many years and consequently spend a lot of time looking at the clouds. Even when I am not shooting I am observing. Looking for interesting formations. Consequently I am 100% that if I had seen this before I would not only remember, I would have photographed it.

One thought comes to mind which is altitude. I am living 300m above sea level and only since moving here have I seen them. Perhaps they are just more visible from up here?

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valued-customer (67) · 6 years ago

I note that rainbows are essentially iridescent clouds, in which the clouds aren't visible, due to water droplets in the air which refracts light. Clouds are composed of water droplets. Unless you note some rippling of the colors in the iridescent clouds, what you are describing as iridescent clouds are basically partial rainbows, where most of the air is devoid of water droplets and only the cloud is refracting the light due to water being present in the cloud, IMHO.

Thanks!

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samstonehill (73) · 6 years ago

Well I must say I have learned a few things about clouds & rainbows under this post.

Though we are still left with the mystery of why they are on the increase...

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irastra (52) · 6 years ago (edited)

You should check the Cloud Atlas of the World Meteorological Organisation. Since my exam in meteorology, a whole bunch of new cloud names have been invented. Check them out - the names are very descriptive. Besides, around the eclipses, the display on the sky is rather confusing, not at all like it was in 1999 when we weren't part of the NATO and there were no geoengineering experiments and no chemtrailing of the sky (official term from US Air Force workbook from 1996) at all. 2 years ago, around the eclipse I even saw 2 suns at the sunset (before I always thought it was just film morphing when seeing such videos).
As there is no web site for the schedule of the geoengineering experiments - at least I haven't seen any for the whole world as it is for the rockets launches, we simply don't quite know if there is an experiment going on and when. Last year in June, the Russians and Chinese were performing a joint experiment by heating the ionosphere up to 100 degrees Celsia in Sura, and reported on that in November.

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samstonehill (73) · 6 years ago

Thanks for the Cloud Atlas of the World Meteorological Organisation. A useful resource.

Interesting to hear an expert in meteorology call out the geoengineering with so much certainty. Most people still think it's just a conspiracy. Am assuming they didn't teach you about it?

Indeed, it is almost impossible to track what is going on in this field, with most governments still in denial.

Do you believe there is connection between iridescent clouds & geoengineering?

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irastra (52) · 6 years ago

Well, you can study geoengineering on Harvard and some other universities as an official study program. Just look it up. Besides, you have the British Royal Society and they conduct geoengineering research, then you have this thing in India, China, Russia, Australia, etc. But I don't know if they have an official study program. And, there are tons of patents on this matter. Even one, that claims they can cause the same effect as an atom bomb does with applying the HAARP-like technology or with just using frequencies (clean technologies I'd say).
They won't stop this thing even if serious and honest scientists prove that the measurements about global warming are not correct. The jobs of geoengineers pay much too well.
If this is a conspiracy then it started long, long ago, much too long for us to figure out exactly when and why. But now, the army of those who conspired this plan to take control over every being on Earth (plants and animals included) consists also of scientists and various other professions. Actually, you may consider Isaac Newton as one of the conspiracists, for in his book you'll find a statement: "We'll rip the secrets of Mother Nature out from her chest." Because hardly anyone could read then, practically this was a decision of a small group, and the vast majority of humans knew nothing about. If this counts as conspiracy, well, then it is a conspiracy.
I'm not an expert in meteorology, I just have an exam in meteorology for gliders. But as I'm used to looking at the sky more than at the ground, I started noticing the changes. Clouds and the sky seldom look the way they did before. Maybe, there still is a YouTube channel Decade of the Sky - videos with ten years long period of sky photos. It might tell you what I see as changes.
Yes, I do believe that there is some connection between geoengineering and iridescent clouds - but I don't know what exactly they are doing there where you reside. Until they started with chemtrailing the sky I have never seen an iridescent cloud.
In the UK is a company that offers weather modification for weddings and executes it in France for 150.000 Ł. And, there are more weather modification, Inc. elsewhere on the planet (Russia, India, somewhere near Australia). So, this is the other part - the weather modification part. I'm not sure if interconnected with geoengineering research or just some commercial spinoff.

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samstonehill (73) · 6 years ago

Thank you for your brilliant response! There is some really great info here, many of whom would benefit from reading it. Appreciate you taking the time with it.

My recent study of ice age cycles leads me to believe there is a connection between the ice age we are currently moving into and geoengineering. Reducing the amount of sunlight getting to the ground in a period where crops will already be struggling with shorter seasons, will only make it harder for us to grow our own food. You may have noticed that certain food prices are increasing? This is because many crops have already started to fail, and it is only going to get worse with more extreme weather during the growing seasons.

More and more people wake up to the reality that their governments don't care about them and also to the possibility that we are actively being culled.

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irastra (52) · 6 years ago (edited)

Yes, I did notice the food prices have risen. Especially in the years 2017 and 2018, the conditions for crops were the lest optimal. We hardly had any fruit, as most of it froze.

Sure, if the conditions aren't optimal then the plants can't provide the rest of living beings whit what they provide us all. Then there is less offspring of insects, birds and other animals, or some are too many and some too few, so the so-called food chain breaks. Those beings don't go to stores as we do, but in this way not even in stores, the supply can't last endlessly.

Actually, the suicide rate among farmers is among the highest among all professions. But there are trials to green the deserts, like in China's Gobi, or with Water Cup in India, or Green Belt in Africa to stop spreading of Sahara. If this succeeds and spreads then this will contribute to the change of microclimate. Just as Prof Emeritus Freeman Dyson says in his interview: " You build a house somewhere and the temperature around it changes." Prof Emeritus Don J. Easterbrook said in his presentation or raw data that the media don't want to publish them but they only publish the adjusted data instead. He described the adjusted data as calculating the average out of a glass of clean water and a glass of sludge.

I don't know if geoengineering causes an ice age, but it certainly makes a mess out of the weather.

What I noticed last year was that chemtrailing dries the air. One day we've got a good amount of rain, not to heavy not too much, just right. Usually, after such rain the next day the sky would be clear in the moring and towards the noon cumulus clouds would for, then in the early afternoon, some would form a cumulonimbus above the mountain or elsewhere then we'd get a shower and the cloud would drift elsewhere. The temperature usually fell for 1-2 degrees, and the sun shone again. But the day I'm describing there was heavy chemtrailing that created that milky gauze over the sky, the air was strangely dry, and the cumulus clouds didn't form, neither did the cumulonimbus.

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