Announcing the Delegation Committee

heimindanger (68) · 5 years ago

Only 3 people ? LOL

@starkerz, one of the poorest choices out of all. He already syphoned a ton from SteemIt inc, for absolutely 0 results. He's the type of person thinking only about money. I met him once in SF3 and understood that quite quickly. His only project is 3Speak, which was actually built by his slaves, and is a copy of DTube except it uses Amazon for hosting, and you need to be a popular guy to be able to upload. He used delegation to pay people who built his projects via upvotes, syphoning the reward pool on a daily basis. Out of all the currently delegated projects, he clearly sits near the bottom of the good/bad gauge, like fundition/drugwars for me. There's clearly a huge conflict of interest issue with 3Speak/DTube here and if he's in the committee, I'd like to be as well.

While I would be ok with the two others, putting them together is a bit retarded because it creates a massive conflict of interest considering they both work for Steem-Engine.com. What would stop them from forcing any new project to make a steem-engine token and pay ENG fees? Nothing. Huge conflict of interest. Pick one of the two. Giving 2/3 of the committee to steem-engine team seems completely moronic to me, unless it's completely intentional and a direct result of corruption.

This smells super bad for STEEM to me. I doubt I'm the only one.

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

Hmm. I usually dont take to this kind of character attacks and in this case its the same. I see the work of @starkerz being more effective in a bull market then where wer at right now and i think that applies to @oracle-d more then the rest.

But you did raise some interesting points about 3speak.
Im someone that will support the efforts by Dan since hes the only whale here at the momment that sees the big picture.
That being said the fact that Dtube exists and is slowly morphing into much more then a youtube clone + steem upvotes, the existance of 3speak that not only is NOT censorship resistant beyond their word, but is a direct rival to dtube with their project leader in the delegation team without a dtube representative, raises concerns.

The problem i see you having is that you have been very critical of steemit and you create an appearance that youre hard to work with. Folks like me might not mind because im very similar but steemit.inc would mind.

Still... Having you or @nannal in the deleg team would be a must imo.

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heimindanger (68) · 5 years ago

3speak is not censorship-resistant. Not more than DTube, and actually way less. DTube has support for IPFS videos which means you can get your thing hosted wherever you want and it'll keep loading on our player.

Just put some really bad stuff (lets say the terrorist shootings from australia) on 3speak, publicly viewable. Then I will make sure it gets taken down even if I do not own 3speak. Proof by example. Wanna try?

I refuse lies, that's probably why I'm hard to work with. Whenever you say bullshit, I will smell it and call it out loud. Pragmatic people will enjoy it, the victims of it (the manipulators) will hate me forever for it.

DTube is a chaotic project acting for good. We aren't making long presentations about our future plans or what will release in 2 years. We are hard to predict and even change our minds often about the plan to follow. We mostly spend our limited time on getting things done rather than bla bla bla and lies all the time. But it is possible to work with us. I'm not the sole person working for @dtube and we have some staff with better communication abilities than me.

3speak and dlive getting a big delegation from steemit has always been hard to accept for me. That means we could go twice as far if we combined the funds, instead of doing the same lap twice and creating stupid steem-internal competition. This arbitrary committee is basically going one step further, giving an advantage to 3speak. If a platform is to get the combined funds to focus on video now, it will be them. It will make it twice harder to work with me now considering I'm not a cold-blooded person :)

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buttcoins (67) · 5 years ago

I tend to agree that a member of dtube on this committee would be a smart move. Perhaps not the Hemster 😂 as he is better barking his bullshit radar from the side.
Though i think many that have been in the steemit community for any length of time have a lot of faith in Dtube and the motivations that drive them.
It does seem that 5 or 7 core committee members would bring more fairness to the process. Obviously more people can slow things down, but if its the right people.... not necesarily.

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

Yeah. Nannal is the more compossed and quiet of the two. I think their oppinions pretty much match but he might be a better choice.

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graylan (55) · 5 years ago

Satoshi never sold his stake. Steemit Inc continues to sell while dangling the powered up incentive to keep the community in line. But how long will that last? I would like to see a governance system built for this purpose (delegation ofnsteemit Inc state) and for the development of the repos. Enabling parties that are invested, to have a say enables democratic governance and a bright future for the blockchains that adopt this mindset.

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heimindanger (68) · 5 years ago

Does Satoshi even hold the keys to the wallets? Or are they virtually burnt? We do not even know.

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igster (63) · 5 years ago

Steemit Inc has always been pretty bad when it comes to making any actual decisions. I'd also give my support for heimindanger. He says like it is, and we need hard truth here since sweet lies have gotten us to this point.

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago

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stoodkev (69) · 5 years ago

Great team!
We ve got a business guy, a community guy and a tech guy, who all did a lot for this blockchain.
Regarding the conflict of interest:

It's hard to put users that are invested in this blockchain enough to deserve this position, without having a possibility of conflict of interest.
Who in his right mind would have refused the SM delegation anyways?
At the end of the day, it's Steemit's stake and their choice, I just happen to think it was a good one.

The vote for each proposal should be transparent, with comments as of why a given proposal has been accepted / rejected.

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ackza (72) · 5 years ago

Amen, and I am very grateful to see other people supporting aggroed when I see some TERRIBLE things said about him on this thread by some very jelous people, attacks on him and his family, people calling him a flat earther and slandering his good name with imaginary subway conversations.... Those shril voice shrieking in jealousy are 100% envious that they are not getting any free delegation.

All of the people hating steemit inc, they have no unity and will retreat to their own projects, mad about capitalism... i feel like the ideological struggle is here on steem and its because the election is moving in... well lets just hope steem doesnt turn into golos with all the pretend "sharing" and that we can remind steemians that they are all capitalists at heart. When the price is going up everyone is a capitalist or one in training :D And when the price is low, the users all squabble and talk about ways to overthrow the evil factory owners Steemit inc.... so a strike is organized, but @elipowell calls a negotiation with labor @aggroed and now the workers are unhappy because they think Snowball has become just like the farmers :D But in reality this is less like Animal Farm and more like Lord of the Flies

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

@aggroed

So, being part of @steemalliance, driving force behind Steem Engine, and part of STINC's delegation committee?

I think we lost the decentralized part somewhere. Not that it was to begin with, but dang this seems like a step backwards.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 5 years ago

I am slightly concerned about potential conflicts of interest considering he is part owner of Steem Monsters which has also submitted an application.

Personally, I don't think any user whose is also an applicant should be on the committee so there will not be even so much as a hint of impropriety in the process.

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hobo.media (64) · 5 years ago

I agree that no one acting as a representative for this program should be allowed to have ownership in projects receiving benefits from the program. That is just a logical rule.

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

That is like allowing Olympic Athletes to judge the very competitions they are competing in. Similar case in point.. DTube allows Clixmoney to hold the voting keys.. and he of course is a "DTube creator", as well as a "DTube curator", and we all know how that works out so well for (Clix & Friends).

This is so crooked it stinks to high hell. But why should we expect anything different. Isn't scheming and scamming what this blockchain does best to all of the innocent sheep.

It's all who ya know, and who ya blow. A mirror of real life politics. A dog and pony show. Gross.

You guys are a lost cause.

Have a good one!

Cheers!

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stimialiti (60) · 5 years ago

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

LOL

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

Thanks for all the votes. You inspire me to keep doing what I do.

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steevc (73) · 5 years ago

Your persistence might be admirable if it was actually effective. Got nothing worthwhile to do?

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hobo.media (64) · 5 years ago

self-voted to counteract downvotes that might reduce visibility.

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creativetruth (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

Agree!

Nothing ingenious about selecting representatives to line their own pockets first. Anybody without a high school diploma can do it.

Not saying they should not be paid, as long as they keep their hands off the delegations they are directed to allocate.

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netuoso (70) · 5 years ago

100% agree on conflict of interest here.

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

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netuoso (70) · 5 years ago

I am not sure what words you are trying to express.

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago (edited)

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

I think it is okay for anyone to be on the committee, and you don't generally want people who are uninvolved and uninformed, but they should step aside on any specific cases when their own application (or a directly competing application) is being considered.

For that reason and others it is probably best to have a slightly larger committee.

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 5 years ago

If I'm not mistaken, back in the day we started flagging @stimialiti for bid bot abuse and / or spam.

So you are suddenly cool with bid bot abuse now? Funny how you change sides so quickly.

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 5 years ago

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago (edited)

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

I don't think you understood the joke.

@enforcer48 shared something on our discord and I made a correlation jokingly hence the intentional strikethru on the top level comment.

@bafi respond hinting that we may have found a pattern and was telling enforcer that we need to take note.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Chill out

Edit: I take that is what got you going about me "circlejerking". Instead of me seeing value in the words, you seem to want to malign me. 👌

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago

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theycallmedan (75) · 5 years ago

Steemit INC is a centralized business and their stake is theirs. The fact they are gathering people from the community to help delegate it I think is a step in the right direction.

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trumpman (72) · 5 years ago

It's called conflict of interest regardless of how you try to sugarcoat it

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bearbear613 (67) · 5 years ago

It’s true what you say, but let’s face it @aggroed has proven to make profitable moves and sting can’t seem to do much without him

tytran (54) · 5 years ago

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trumpman (72) · 5 years ago

and water is not wet.

freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

Well, if they don't want to keep their promise not to use the ninjamine to vote with, it's just one more tall one from stinc.

If they cared about the community they wouldn't use that stake to ensure that only the echo chamber gets rewarded.

hungryhustle (67) · 5 years ago

I was thinking the same. The reason why we have a delegation application process in the first place could be because of these good men, of course with Steemit Inc.'s support and approval. The good part is that these folks have not been a part of Steemit core team but the community members who stand out due to their kickass work.

Also, conflict of interest arise when @aggored was chosen as the only committee member. There are other two folks as well, damn good at what they do. From different backgrounds with different projects, they will have a say as well in the delegation process. And then Steemit Inc., will(read "have to") ensure the process to be transparent and corruption free without influencing their decision. [They have mentioned this in the blog].

I think we should give all of them a chance to prove themselves as a team now. The crazy part is that things are moving forward.

#NewSteem Next Stop? Phobos!

enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago (edited)

Steemit INC is a centralized business and their stake is theirs.

I understand that part. I was merely pointing out the slight conflict of interest. @aggroed has contributed a lot to our ecosystem, no doubt about it.

It just seems odd to have him participate in the figurative executive, legislative, and judicial branch all at the same time.

I'm sure we will be fine, though. This place needs strong leaders to lead it out of the bear.

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theycallmedan (75) · 5 years ago

Aggroed is just a beast TBH. He steps up and takes on responsibly like a champion. Hats off to him.

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berniesanders (77) · 5 years ago

You’re goddamn oblivious. That has become clear.

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

I can no longer tell the difference between that, willful ignorance, or he's been invited into the STINC inner circle.

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justtryme90 (71) · 5 years ago

Yes, let's place more conspiracy nuts into power positions. What a great idea.

ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

Oh, Christ...he's a conspiracy nut too? Like a flat-earther, or just a run-of-the-mill conspiracy theorist?

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justtryme90 (71) · 5 years ago (edited)

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liberosist (70) · 5 years ago

Good grief.

tytran (54) · 5 years ago

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

I mean, OK. He's in the legislative branch. True. Now he's in the judicial. Also true. Executive, not really. However, do you have anyone else you think would be a better fit? He or she must possess the following attributes:

have contributed largely to the ecosystem on steem in a positive and sustainable way
have contributed largely to the social aspect on steem in a positive and sustainable way
have invested their own time/money/resources/efforts/ideas to the growth of the blockchain, with measurable results
have some exceptional ability to understand the genius it requires to succeed on here, enough to actually succeed on here.

Is there politics here? Meh. Sure. There ALWAYS IS! But I'm telling you, I'd rather have him deciding who gets what for the mere fact that he knows what looks like it will work and what won't. We're not here to waste resources. I don't think this is a bad decision. But I guess we'll find out, won't we?

How about you try and give me other names. And we'll debate it.

enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

I guess by your criteria, not even the people who were in the Working Groups of the Foundation would qualify.

But, that's besides the point. Like you said, we wait and see.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago

I don't know who was in the working groups, and I'm sure they qualify more than anyone else. But I do think the criteria above can't hurt. I think if you're going to be going around delegating buttloads of SP, you oughta have at least some business acumen, and something to show for your dedication and personal investment.

In this case, sunk cost is a motivator....bias or not.

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mkt (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

I totally agree with you. And maybe it's just difficult to find people who are eligible for the position and not being involved in major Steem projects.

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freddio (61) · 5 years ago

I think so too, also i think the guys will make a great job, because there stay in puplic and nobody want drama :)

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ackza (72) · 5 years ago

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netuoso (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

I'm honestly not sure what it is you do aside from crazy rants on various social platforms about conspiracies and steem

. I feel like @aggroed deserves to get delegation for his project because it will employ so many people, and if he has to be on the comittee to get that passed, its not a freakin conflict oif interests, what is this the government

It might be a conflict of interest you are fine with, but it is a conflict of interest by definition.

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berniesanders (77) · 5 years ago

You’re nothing but a fanboy shill.

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago

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tytran (54) · 5 years ago

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

And aggroed is not allowed to gift his own projects, obviously, so just no, sorry , not a conflict of interest

Free delegation to one's own project is certainly a personal benefit. Denying said delegation to a directly competing project would also be a personal benefit. Read the definition again, it doesn't say anything about gifting.

no one left to fill the positions

Nowhere did I say people should be excluded from the positions, only that they should decline to take part in specific decision where there is a direct conflict. This is easy to do and not disruptive as long as there is a slightly larger committee or alternates.

Practically every decision making body in the world uses this procedure.

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tytran (54) · 5 years ago

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago

Its a catch 22! under your scenarios @aggroed can't help but do something wrong!

Nope, just step aside in specific case if a direct conflict exists. Not catch 22 at all. Easy.

all the existing governments on earth, yeah great idea

I said nearly every decision making body. That's more than governments, it is also company boards, clubs, charities, etc.

Really this concept is basic and I don't know why you are getting yourself so worked up or confused over it.

I do know that your comments aren't adding value so I'm going to go ahead and make a little downvote to offset your undeserved self-upvote.

littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

I agree. In fact, I've been WAITING for them to take the leap. Is it going to be perfect? No. Will the priority be to increase the value and usership of steem?

Yep.

Will it primarily be designed to benefit steemit inc?

Yep.

Is that a bad thing?

Nope. Not as long as the people who get the delegation are legitimately bringing in the bacon, making it a stronger place, and working toward making this platform a household name. I couldn't care LESS who gets the delegation, as long as their goal is to positively affect our growth with DAPPS and projects that bless and help others besides just us!

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

That delegation comes out of your share and my share.
You sure you want to advocate taking from the disfavored to benefit the favored?

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tytran (54) · 5 years ago

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

Then, if that was enforced, why would anybody play this game?

Stinc already dosn't use the majority of the ninjamine against us.
That we get a share at all is because they let crumbs fall from the table.

It is them that benefits most by feeding the minnows.
Keeping the price low makes acquiring stake cheaper.
The less they take the more users we get.
If ned keeps it all for himself, nobody will want any.
Btc's price is zero, if all the coins are in satoshi's wallet.

If your friends are driving off a cliff do you sit idly by while they take you over with them?

kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

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bluerobo (61) · 5 years ago

!dramatoken

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

lol they never really cared about decentralization, boy!

dont believe what people tell ya. next step would be voluntarily paying compulsory levy..

wait.

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

I thought we already do? lol

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

Yeah. That's the joke.

Thats why I wrote wait

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oldtimer (75) · 5 years ago

There was never the ,,decentralized part'' in this story.
It's just a buzz word.

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

And you are correct.

It's not a bad thing really. I think most of us care more about this place being successful than decentralized.

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

For me decentralization would be success.

Money is not everything.

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lauch3d (62) · 5 years ago (edited)

einfach zurrück lehnen. Es wird bald richtig dumme Gesichter geben :)

PS. people here dont get the point of what they call "decentralization". Centralization brings efficiency but introduces fragility to a system: a brain is highly efficient but a small aneurysm can destroy the integrity of the system and kill the organism within a few seconds. Centralization only works when its generated by an evolutionary algorithm. When you force an entity into a centralized role (like in a "Putsch") the system dies shortly after. This is why dictatorships fail.

A dPOS System or a DAO can only exist in a decentralized fashion ... by definition. You either can have a heavy centralized and efficient but fragile system or you have a maximum redundant DAO which is by design platform grade censorship-resistant and tamper-resistant but really resilient and inefficient OR you have BULLSHIT

Crypto-illiteracy and stupidity. PPS. we should shut the fuck up we are not business-minded and dumb kids :3

luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

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oldtimer (75) · 5 years ago

Keep dreaming.

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago (edited)

I will. One of the last few..

All you others just do what u're told?

offtopic: do you have an oldtimer, or is it just ur name?

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oldtimer (75) · 5 years ago (edited)

Just a steem name.

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

Hmm ok :/

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jamesbrown (62) · 5 years ago

Well, you can have your decentralized among the few thousand of you (who really care and would stay JUST for the decentralized aspect, itself). I'd rather have slightly less centralized than what's out there (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc) with many millions of active users.

Decentralization for decentralization's sake simply isn't an attractive enough proposition to bring longevity (success) to this, or any, platform, IF by "success" we aim to include anything beyond one percent of one percent of once percent of potential users (at the order of merely thousands of active users).

I'm not in the "more the merrier" camp by any means, but there's a line where you're simply irrelevant as a "get the word out there" platform, and it's WELL ABOVE the 4~8 thousand active user level. It's probably more around the million to 10 million active users, on the low end, 100 million just to be safe.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago

Maybe, maybe not. But, at least this way, business-minded people like me and you can actually throw something together that has a fighting chance in this god-forsaken world of upvotes.

Maybe it's nothing more than a symbiotic relationship. But I'll tell you what. Why don't you go find another place anywhere else in the world where you can get this kind of delegated support to charge up your own business, without having to do a credit check, offer a collateral, and give over your first born child just to get ahead?

Delegation will go to those who have a plan to grow the blockchain from outside in. Tell me how that is NOT decentralized.

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oldtimer (75) · 5 years ago (edited)

Delegations will go to the chosen ones.
When you'll find one from outside the USA, please let me know.

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jeezzle (70) · 5 years ago

100% agree. It's bullshit.

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graylan (55) · 5 years ago

To have proper governance we need to have a conversation about who controls the repos. That's why btc chainsplit and Steem is not immune . It has lost some "steem" obviously , users left for other chains because they felt their voice wasn't heard.(many dpos forks exist now) Let people debate and have a voice and this chain can/will change the world . It's the best data chain I know of, we only need more nodes and liquidity. Without decentralization and liquiditiy, the best technology in our field means nothing to the future investors .

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dramatoken (62) · 5 years ago

You've got DRAMA. You are going to be a Whale!

^{To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.}

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sepracore (62) · 5 years ago (edited)

Since @aggroed is one of the few top20 witnesses without a vote from @freedom, I would say he is the people’s candidate. Sure he has conflicts of interest, but anyone who would be an acceptable candidate will as well. If the platform succeeds, he is a very wealthy man and that will make us all very happy. A rising tide lifts all boats.

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

only top20 witness without a vote from @freedom

Not even close to accurate

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

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fredrikaa (70) · 5 years ago

Who, excluding yourself, would you have liked to see in this position then?
It seems rather unlikely to me that there'll be many with a proven record on Steem that has not already built or run something which could have a conflict of interest.

ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

You seem to think that every user on Steem is somehow involved in businesses or projects that would conflict with vetting people and making decisions about delegations. I can tell you that most users have no such roles in businesses and projects. And as @jamesbrown said - there is a much larger ocean outside of this tiny Steem puddle.

But more to the point...

Why must we have Aggroed and somebody who does work for Aggroed (Eonwarped) on this committee, given the many conflicts that Aggroed himself has in all of this? Why must we have Starkerz on this committee, given his role in at least four projects on Steem (Oracle-D, Promo-Steem, 3Speak, and the SBA through his role with Oracle-D) - which I assume would be seeking delegations, as at least one of them I know has received delegation from STINC already?

Two of the three committee members have major conflicts of interest and one has a conflict through his work with one of them. And all three, as far as I can tell, have pretty much zero relevant business/social media experience when it comes to vetting viable projects for this blockchain. That's the underlying issue. The conflicts of interest just make this much, much worse.

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

Why are we getting the ninjamine used against us?
I thought this was settled years ago.
Stinc doesn't use the ninjamine to vote.
Has that policy been changed?
It would be inline with maximizing stinc shareholder take.

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

STINC is under new management. And they apparently want to make Steem suck even worse than it has under previous management.

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

Lol, of course they do, these are all features, not bugs.
Will they ever learn?
Smdh.

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netuoso (70) · 5 years ago

Isn't this post about Steemit stake being used to vote? SteemIt isn't voting manually but their stake, the Ninja mined stake, is being used to vote.

So yes, the policy has apparently changed.

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

Not much we can do about that but wait for them to dump?
Golos, here we come!
Same folks ruining them, ruining us.
Smdh.

All hail, stinc!

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jamesbrown (62) · 5 years ago

There's a big world outside of the Steem blockchain of potential "recruits" (with their own track-records in related fields) for a governance position. It doesn't have to come from within this small pond.

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fredrikaa (70) · 5 years ago

Then you would have to set aside a budget to pay those people a wage. They wouldn't do it voluntarily.

smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

Even at current prices this is an asset worth many millions of dollars that is being managed. A budget is not unreasonable.

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jamesbrown (62) · 5 years ago (edited)

Of course. If public image is of any importance to Steemit, side stepping situations such as we find here with @aggroed (conflict of interest) should be a high priority, IMO.

It all boils down to a very simple question: is more money gained/ lost in the long-run (all things considered) by hiring on someone from the inside with a blatantly obvious conflict of interest or from the outside, in someone who requires an additional wage (but is also likely more qualified for the position, as he/she is chosen from a pool that consists of billions of people compared to the few thousand that exist on chain, and doesn't come along with the COI label)?

My guess is that investor confidence in Steem is not high at the moment (feel free to guess why I've come to that assessment). I also guess that it'll not grow from Steemit's decision here, but I could be wrong. Time (money) will tell.

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darlenys01 (72) · 5 years ago

Everything to improve is well received, we are at a time where only the union of members and teamwork will make a difference, this committee has done an excellent job, I know that Matt @starkerz is a competent, professional person, and with a lot of talent and wonderful ideas that add value to this blockchain, we hope to see good results and that the true purpose of this platform is evaluated, if what we do does not bless the life of a community and leaves a legacy in the world, It's no use. We have organized communities that are doing social impact work that must be valued now.

DARLENYS

@steemchurch representative

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jondoe (84) · 5 years ago

Considering that delegations are going to further dilute everyone else's vote, we need to be very judicious about any and all delegations. Plus, could we get some people in here with no conflicts of interest please? Nothing personal, they seem like decent candidates, but a conflict of interest should make them ineligible.

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paintingangels (65) · 5 years ago

I would just like to take this moment to say that if @eonwarped can’t improve a situation, then it just isn’t possible. He helps me so much, pretty much DAILY! Excellent little list of wizards here. Cheers all around!

❤️❤️❤️
-Serena

luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

lol. I think the steem ecosystem demands some kinda other care than you..

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paintingangels (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

All you want to do is complain.

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

Lol. Never called you names or anything similar.

I just think, imho, that ur subjective experience about a person has no correlation to his knowledge and skills in another topic.

Have a good night.

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paintingangels (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

Ahh, well that’s not what you said is it? Anyway.. I apologize for being rude.. (deleted that) I had a bad day and that was misplaced frustration on my part. Have a good night as well.

sammosk (71) · 5 years ago

Aww isn't that nice.

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buttcoins (67) · 5 years ago

I agree... @eonwarped is a good dude and i believe he is a good choice for this committee!

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midlet (72) · 5 years ago

This is really awesome to see. All three of these people ABSOLUTELY deserve to be there and it was a great move for Steemit to pic people from the community that have proven track records of adding value to this chain.

Please feel free to ignore all the haters. You guys are renewing my faith in Steemit.

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

Hater translated to - Any opinion/response other than "Yes good, I like this, ooga ooga, me monkey, Eee Eee Eee!"

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andrarchy (72) · 5 years ago

Thanks! We appreciate it!

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

Seriously? That is the one comment that you’ve acknowledged and replied to?

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

He only responds to echos.

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

!dramatoken

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dramatoken (62) · 5 years ago

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

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d0zer (59) · 5 years ago

Even though it is a bit weird that someone applying for a delegation is in the delegation committee as well, I think we’re moving forward.

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prameshtyagi (71) · 5 years ago

Good to see you started moving fast on your promises. Hope committee would also make quick assessments and announce their decisions.

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felixxx (68) · 5 years ago

Den Bock zum Gärtner machen.

To let the dog watch the sausage.

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niallon11 (68) · 5 years ago

Pretty solid team you have chosen there. Some of the best people on the blockchain with proven track records of helping out the system. Good call.

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uyobong (71) · 5 years ago

me choices. I respect these men on Steem blockchain. They have proven capacity and integrity for this. Congratulations @Aggroed @eonwarped and @Starkerz. We all look up to you three for developing Steem projects and communities.

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

So two techies and a college chemist are deciding on business/finances and social media influence?

Makes perfect sense to me. What a diverse and knowledgable “committee.”

And since this wasn’t answered from the last post...

How much total STEEM will be available from Steemit, Inc. accounts for this delegation program?

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theycallmedan (75) · 5 years ago

I work with Matt & can personally vouch for his work ethic and a keen eye to details. As the post says, he has managed multi-billion dollar projects, so he is overkill when talking about managing the delegation of millions of dollars in Steem.
The reputation for Aggroed speaks for itself & Eonwarped is very highly trusted & respected in the Steem community. I think it is a great starting lineup.

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

I have no problem with @eonwarped and told him as much myself.

The other two? They already have too many entanglements with other Steem projects and I see no need for them to be on a three-person committee.

And I'm sorry...I'm not impressed with these resumes. I have no idea who Matt is and what these "billion-dollar" projects are. I can only tell you that not many people could accurately explain what Oracle-D is or does and 3speak has been quite messy so far. The Steem Business Alliance is pretty much unknown and hasn't really done much to date either. So based on his Steem "success," we don't have much to go on to judge his "keen eye" and to gauge his achievements.

If these guys are on a larger committee, then that's great. But a three-person committee to decide on the future membership of the committee and doling out delegations? It could have been done much better. And that's a severe understatement.

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago

Did you even read the post?;)

10 years working for startups and giant conglomerates
managing multi-billion dollar industrial projects

And one techie guy :D

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

“Working for” isn’t exactly managing.

And “managing multi-billion dollar” projects can be claimed by anyone. I’d be interested to know what those projects were and how he “managed” them.

Inflating resumes is easy to do. Did you know that I own a company with $783 million dollars in assets? I’ve also operated two non-profits that have given over half a billion dollars to third-world medical facilities and school programs.

Maybe I should be on a committee too! Where do I apply? :)

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ssjsasha (67) · 5 years ago

Why would they delegate free steem when people can go out and invest, it’s like a free chance at business when it’s not your money at stake

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

Yeah, I tried making this point when they announced their new delegation plans. Nobody seems to understand how harmful their delegation practices have been, are, and will continue to be.

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

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michealb (66) · 5 years ago

sorry, your too ugly

lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

😂😂😂 you win steemit today.

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

Baraka is too ugly? Sounds pretty racist to me. :)

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michealb (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

lol, i'm amazed anyone votes for you as witness with teeth like that. i mean you look like someone who would eat my children! oh wait i do vote for you haha. Cassie Cage or sub zero maybe:)

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

If people don’t vote for me, I eat their children. I wish more users around here had children. :(

joythewanderer (78) · 5 years ago

I voted for him because of his profile pic.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 5 years ago

Did you know that I own a company with $783 million dollars in assets?

That's all?

ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

That’s just one company. I own eleventy-six others.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 5 years ago

I own all the land and every chicken.

clayboyn (70) · 5 years ago

Unhand my cocks sir!

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 5 years ago

Dixon Cox? Is that you?

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

I'd vote for that.

I'll also be a canary in the coal mine.

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luegenbaron (64) · 5 years ago

Agree.
This post looks more like a reputation polishing..^^

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por500bolos (68) · 5 years ago

Maybe I should be on a committee too! Where do I apply? :)

@ats-david:

I have the hunch... that I should be launching myself as a candidate for this committee too. };)

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daan (68) · 5 years ago (edited)

Here you can find the info you need:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-starkey-90ba2719/

I've met Matt personally and he's given me no reason to think he was embellishing his past work experience (due to copious amounts of details he's added). Of course, I'm just a random guy on the internet, but I'm merely stating my own experiences with Matt. Given that there are other people here who've had similar experiences, I'd say that it's fairly trustworthy to use these opinions as some form of vetting.

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

I’m sure he’s smart and a nice guy and, as an engineer, has worked with projects where assets and equipment were worth a lot of money. That’s great.

But what does that have to do with identifying and vetting legit startups and other businesses and what does it have to do with or tie into the social media aspects of this platform?

We really don’t need more tech and engineering types making decisions about “winners and losers” around here...which was my original point.

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nealmcspadden (69) · 5 years ago

To be fair, aggy has proven himself (at least to me) as very savvy on the social and token economics side.

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

By "savvy" do you mean "pandering to 'minnows' as a faux populist?"

And by "token economics" do you mean that he created a (questionably legal) centralized shittoken creation service and exchange and offers people Steemit clones?

You must be easily impressed!

amirite? :)

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shitbot (55) · 5 years ago

You have been rewarded with some SHIT! Take a trip to the bathroom to stake and manage your worthless tokens.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

Here's why it makes sense.

@aggroed has 10 years of start-up experience, with his most recent personal endeavor contributing to 20% of the daily usership on the blockchain, with a net positive contribution to the value of steem. Chemistry? Sure. He's figured out the formula. He could have had Matt build this elsewhere, and chose to do it here.
@aeonwarped - are you kidding me? He and @holger80 wrote the steem engine Nitrous and user interface when it's the closest thing we have to SMT's (which YOU said we were not ready for. But I digress) with a liquid 600,000 steem and counting. Tell me what you don't like about that.
And @starkerz? Inflated resume? takes deep breath....takes another deep breath....counts to ten You know you're pushing if you piss off littlescribe.

So here's my analysis -

a) you're doing it for the ratings
b) you're jealous
c) you need to get laid

I could probably help you with one or two of those, but I'm not going to say which.

And/Or tell me who you would recommend in their place. And I'll tell you if I disagree.

eonwarped (68) · 5 years ago

Oh no, I can't take credit for all of the SMT-lookalike. @holger80 deserves most of the credit in that. I manage the front ends that talk to the bot that he set up. But I'll grant that I am an important part of it all too :)

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

Now that Ats went after everyones CVs i have to ask one question:

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? ...

😂😂😂

How many billion dollar projects have you managed Eon? Huh?
Any less then 3 and youre out!

We dont want no million dollar project freeloaders up in here.

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eonwarped (68) · 5 years ago

😅

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

OK. I made the correction. But I guess it doesn't matter cuz I got hid. How can you tell who hid you? Is there any way?

This is the first time I've ever been 'HIDDEN'. I feel like I've reached a whole new level.

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eonwarped (68) · 5 years ago

Yes, unhide the comment and click the votes count. Ats downvoted.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 5 years ago

Hey. Who's that guy hiding in the trees behind you?

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eonwarped (68) · 5 years ago

I dunno but I checked my other photos and he seems to be everywhere. Should I be worried?

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 5 years ago

No, don't be worried. It's me.

bluerobo (61) · 5 years ago

!dramatoken

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sepracore (62) · 5 years ago

In the post, it says this committee is free to include others in this process. Who would you recommend they include?

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dramatoken (62) · 5 years ago

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sammosk (71) · 5 years ago

Independent? Aggroed is not as impartial as you would think. His delegation applications for the DAP will surely be leaning towards MSP/PAL orientated services and servants.

Eonwarped is a legend who I would back. With the skill-set and critical mind I believe will lend an edge of caution and strategy when deliberating over a project to determine its worthiness of garnering a delegation. Can't think of any reasons to reject that member of the committee.

But who is starkerz? The name makes me think of getting nude, is this because of the honesty and transparency offered by this particular user? or more of a alignment with blockchain tech in general, as the ledger is open (most of the time). But I digress, this particular individual will surely be a valuable member of the committee as they are obviously already an established professional user of multiple platforms, and in my opinion a keystone in establishing a presence in the real world from this platform.

My 2 cents, take it with a grain of salt.
Keep steeming on.
Love you guise. <3

fuadsm (55) · 5 years ago

All three of them needs to agree on the account and tier before they forward it to stinc so I don't aggroed can get away with MSP/PAL favoritism

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sammosk (71) · 5 years ago

Sounds like a great stalling tactic for any projects you don't like.. Just disagree.

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

Id say this is a good move. Each one of these guys deserves to be in this position.
A conflict of interest? Sure. Maybe. But i dont really care.

I care about right people doing right things.

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

Not one bit. I look at what hes doing for steem, what all these guys are doing and they deserve this spot.

As long as he wasnt a part of any criminal activity im ok with him not having a phd, being a shitty salesperson in the past or cleaning toilets for a living.

I really dont care.

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

As i said. I dont care about his rl reputation. Only what he does here.
Ive seen marketing experts with a body of work fail here at the job theyre qualified to do and ive seen people with much less background do a lot more good.

So really. If hes lying thats on him but as ling as he keeps doing what hes doing ill be in support.

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

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gank (62) · 5 years ago

Awesome news, a step in the right direction!

theguruasia (67) · 5 years ago

@steemitblog,
Won't be a part of below discussion, I hope this committee might work accurately and effectively! After all it's your Stake and your intention to motivate developers and upcoming projects by assigning SP is a positive thinking for all of us!
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Cheers~

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bluefinstudios (65) · 5 years ago

interesting.

Certainly explains the actions or inactions of some within the Foundation.

ats-david (74) · 5 years ago

Are you talking about Aggroed? The guy who pretty much said during foundation proposal creation that his main purpose was to get STINC's money?

I guess dragging his feet(?) in the foundation makes sense now that we've learned he'll actually get his hands on STINC's money. I wonder how easy it was for him to manipulate @elipowell and stab others in the back...

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wehmoen (68) · 5 years ago (edited)

drutter (69) · 5 years ago

It feels like consolidation of power and control. It feels like centralization.

anthonyadavisii (70) · 5 years ago

I am slightly concerned about potential conflicts of interest with applicants also being committee members.

What assurance, if any, can Steemit Inc. provide that the committee will remain impartial in such instances?

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago

OK. I had the same question. And I don't think there is a sure fire way. However, I do know there are certain criteria each proposal must absolutely meet before being approved. And frankly, I get the feeling the people on committee will likely be more inclined to decline applications that benefit their own projects, for the sheer appearance of evil.

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

This is still only the beginning of the process of developing a better system for allocating Steemit, Inc.’s delegated Steem Power.

Do we have to keep doing this the hard way?
Let's go back to 'its a dao'.
And 'we aren't responsible to anybody'.

Stop picking winners and making losers of everybody else, please.
You may get away with this in the short term, but the backlash is coming.

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bluerobo (61) · 5 years ago

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dramatoken (62) · 5 years ago

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago

Well well well. Aren't we a lovely bunch of coconuts!

Congrats, guys. Couldn't have picked a better bunch.

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hobo.media (64) · 5 years ago

Nothing wrong with those people, but I do kind of get tired of seeing the same people given responsibilities or roles of authority all the time. If this is a large community with diversity of responsibilities we should see a larger variety of characters taking the lead for new projects.

I keep seeing the same people, often top witnesses, getting additional authorities. That's just not ideal for decentralization and democratic systems. Don't get me wrong, its Steemit's SP, so by all means do what you want with what is yours. But I'm just saying...

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dr-frankenstein (67) · 5 years ago

I do kind of get tired of seeing the same people given responsibilities or roles of authority all the time.

Couldn't agree more.

drutter (69) · 5 years ago

Same here. Centralization of power in a few people, that's not at ALL what I want to be part of. Even if those people are amazing. It's nothing personal.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago

OK. That's fair. Can't say I disagree. However, this is a LOT of SP we're talking about. It's a YUGE responsibility. We can't just dish it out mamby pamby, ya know? I mean, keep in mind, it's free, basically. free use of gobs of SP. It reeeeeeaaaaally needs to be handled fairly delicately. Not saying there are other people who can't do as good a job. But I mean, we kind of screwed up last year and basically gave the goose away.

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bashadow (65) · 5 years ago

In a democratic system we could have Jerry Banfield in charge of what project gets passed on. I am not sure about these committees or what they really are for, such as this one, and then there is the Steem Alliance Non-Profit, (currently looking for a bank last I read), One has to wonder why so much effort is being put into decentralizing the responsibility of Steem Inc? Sorry just a tad cynical lately about a lot of things. We didn't do it, talk to blah blah over at blah blah committee

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fredrikaa (70) · 5 years ago

Good starting point and certainly an improvement from how it has been done previously.

Still think it is vital that while the committee should be flexible and efficient in how they appprove new projects for a delegation, the community should have a mechanism to opt the receivers of the largest delegations out should it fail to live up to the requirements stated in the first document of delivering sustainable value to the community at large.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

They do. It has a quarterly review. Every recipient has to reapply every 4 months. AND, if a recipient sucks, for any reason, they can yank it. For no reason. And, recipients have to be willing to sign contracts, to handle their delegation as they have been asked to. Or rather, as they proposed to, and for which they received approval. If they deviate, the delegation gets yanked, theoretically.

This is where I think having extra sub committee members will come in handy.

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dr-frankenstein (67) · 5 years ago

Same faces everywhere.

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jackmiller (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

Steemit Inc.'s money, they can do with it as they wish.

Simple as that.

I am now wondering what the purpose of The Foundation shall be since from what I recall, this was in fact going to be one of the core (fundamental) responsibilities of The Steem Foundation.

Just interested in hearing it direct from the source.

Would love to hear what our Community organized Steem Foundation thinks too.

@bluefinstudios , @shadowspub and all the others voted in to do the job for fellow Steemians.

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whatsup (75) · 5 years ago

Lot's of things regarding the initial promises of the foundation didn't pan out.

Remember the funding, remember the proposals?

When it all came together after months of work the first task asked was plans for meetups. ;) Like we needed a series of elections to create that.

I'm still a bit salty.. don't mind me.

I hope that shadowspub and bluefin can still find a way to make it useful but the plan that was pitched simply didn't happen.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

What do you mean? I'm a little confused. Are you saying they were promised funding, wrote up a plan, and didn't get it? Please elaborate. Salty noted.

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whatsup (75) · 5 years ago (edited)

Yes, I am saying there was promised funding. Ned promised it on and off the air on several shows, in several chats. There was a huge project and 3 or 4 community elections. There are still people working on it.

After 4 elections and several plans, I resigned when the first task was "write up plans for Meet ups" to build trust. Why would that task require several community elections, appearances on talk shows and 10 or more community proposals.... It didn't.

There are others still on the committee and the funds for legalizing it did happen. However, it seemed like an endless set of hoops to jump through, a moving goal post and a complete disregard for people's time and effort.

That foundation was also discussed as a potential place for community projects to be discussed and handed to the SPS, delegations, and other funding issues that required community input and consensus. I have no idea what is happening with it all now.

I have a great respect for the others on the team and hope they can still turn it into something meaningful.

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hobo.media (64) · 5 years ago

Yeah, wasn't it a 6 million donation in STEEM from Steemit to the foundation originally and then it became something way smaller?

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nokodemion (59) · 5 years ago

Thx for the reminder, I almost forget that part of our history.

WTF!!! See, how they played us, again and again... I am rage quiting!!!

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whatsup (75) · 5 years ago

No need to rage quit, just accept data when it is presented.

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itstime (60) · 5 years ago

I wondered what had happened to those alliance posts...that's a bit sad !!

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jackmiller (66) · 5 years ago

You know my views on the chain of events from back in that "era", not to mention anything here that could get people going "off-topic".

You and I agreed on the nature of the events after some discussion. So to beat that horse that isn't dead, can only lead to that horse kicking us really hard.

Which no rational person would want.

;)

PS. No, you are not "salty", you say things as you see them, nothing wrong with that in my books.

Cheers.

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aggroed (78) · 5 years ago

It’s not over yet. Still just starting!

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whatsup (75) · 5 years ago

Yeah, as I said.. I hope it creates some value in the future.

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fredrikaa (70) · 5 years ago

It never was (at least not officially) intended that the foundation would be in control of the delegation funds. It was only ever suggested that they ought to be represented somehow in the decision-making process.

I get that with all lf the ideas and suggestions being thrown around of what the foundation could or should be, it would be easy to confuse Inc's words and promises from community suggestions and assumptions.

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jackmiller (66) · 5 years ago

"Controling delegation funds" was always going to be exclusively Steemit Inc.

The Foundation was often presented in a way that was easily understood (and justifiable legitimately) to be a community liaison for Steemit Inc. on many matters, including but not limited to topics such as "Delegation of SP for projects".

But from what I see, it has all been made very clear now, crystal clear.

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fredrikaa (70) · 5 years ago

It still could be at some point. I don't think the time-lime for when it would be ready to take ln certain plausible responsibilities was clear? Only what Steemit Inc would potentislly like it to do?

littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

What it looks like to me is there will be more lined up, sub committee members or whatever from the foundation. And lots of stuff to do. Not just delegation, but the overseeing of it. Three dudes can't do it all.

There will need to be pre-screening, screening, review, final review, requests for modifications, then approval, and contracts must be drafted, and reviewed, and executed, then followed up on. And then there's the whole "did they do as they promised" bit. There needs to be a team of intelligence and analytics, basically. I mean, who's gunna make sure these blokes don't go upvoting stupid crap, or running off with the shared custody of said SP baby?

Lots to do. I think everyone will be busy. And if anything, prolly there's just silence from the INC. due to the need to reduce rumor-mongering.

But, in this case, it might be best to communicate to certain people who were involved from the beginning. Cuz from what I can tell, the ones who are complaining are trustworthy individuals, who deserve explanations. IMHO.

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jackmiller (66) · 5 years ago

Could be.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago (edited)

I guess you and whatsup are on the same page. And I missed the memo. So there's a "foundation" thing I missed. And it turned into a committee that simply delegates SP. Where did the foundation go? What was it meant to do? And why did it change?

Maybe there could be a sub committee, or prescreening committee with @bluefinstudios and @shadowspub.

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jackmiller (66) · 5 years ago

Yeah, maybe.

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whyaskwhy (60) · 5 years ago

Great guys, the trio , the moderate the delegation process!! But my little misgivings is why hamstring them , by vetting their recommendations as intended??

To avaoid human errors of judgement and undue favouritism as some has suspected in @sterkerz, the number of the committee could be extended to neutralize errors of judgement!!

In all, the results shall bring about a new watershed in the journey of steemit block chain !!

Bravo to the committee!!

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arifullah (43) · 5 years ago

I agree that no one acting as a representative for this program should be allowed to have ownership in projects receiving benefits from the program. That is just a logical rule.

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hitmeasap (71) · 5 years ago

Hmm...
Nope, still doesn't sound good to me. Probably a really solid committee, but this is probably another thing that will make things worse for everyone.

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sacra97 (71) · 5 years ago

Congrats @aggroed @starkerz @eonwarped

@steemitblog

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blockchainstudio (72) · 5 years ago (edited)

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eonwarped (68) · 5 years ago

You could have just kept this on GitHub. It's addressed now. This was an oversight on my part and of course I apologise for it and we are dealing with it properly now.

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blockchainstudio (72) · 5 years ago (edited)

Sure I've removed it here.

I also think it happened due to steem-engine & scot fast-paced dev process. But since you're also a witness and now even a committee member, I'd really appreciate if you don't miss such details, especially regarding appreciation to community contributors.

Thanks for your hardworking!

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eonwarped (68) · 5 years ago

Yes noted. It really should not have happened

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revo (60) · 5 years ago

STEM people, FTW!

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hungryharish (66) · 5 years ago

I am following these two people @aggroed and @starkerz from some months. As mentioned above they have done a lot of contributions on the block chain and involved many other projects. Hope they continue as they are and help the people who are making awesome things and in need for delegation. Wishing all the best to the team.

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vishnur (25) · 5 years ago

Congratulations guys.. Looking forward to your work

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arcange (73) · 5 years ago (edited)

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brianturner (67) · 5 years ago

Big support for Aggroed, he's the best

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ivan-perez-anies (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

Traducción rápida al Spanish...
Estos son los individuos que tenéis que agasajar para intentar rascar algo xD

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pgarcgo (70) · 5 years ago

Me parto.

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kawaiicrush (66) · 5 years ago

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zaxan (64) · 5 years ago (edited)

This is really good news! Happy to see good people working for the future of steem delegations ♥

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geekgirl (72) · 5 years ago

Nice move. Is there a total cap for delegations?

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ats-david (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

lol...you really think they're going to respond to this?

Even if they did, it would likely be a lie or otherwise inaccurate.

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ammonite (67) · 5 years ago

These all seem to be smart business minds. I'm sure there will be a lot of scrutiny of their decisions to keep them in the chains best interest. For me any change in the status quo is a good thing. Wishing them luck with this task.

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matt-a (65) · 5 years ago

I like this. That's all I got.

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dmilliz (68) · 5 years ago

Very interesting choice. I have high regard for them all. Did not see this one coming.

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abitcoinskeptic (73) · 5 years ago

Congratualtions to all on your ascendency!
You are all capable and accomplished individuals obviously connected to Steem and love it.

Individually the choices make sense, however collectively, it seems to be all coming from similar backgrounds with similar interests.

I think at least one member should have community or marketing experience so we can get better insights on how to community or market will react to any proposals.

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klarou12 (56) · 5 years ago

need someone can bring steem back to $8 dollars again because now steem is boring

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richardcrill (67) · 5 years ago

Cool, but I just wish I knew why y'all let bid bots destroy the content discovering mechanism of Steemit. It's awesome that some tribes are fixing this on their end, but it's counter productive that this vote buying still dominates Steem. As pleased as I am about these recent developments, I still don't know why y'all would kill off one of the main features and making the trending page into something different entirely. It doesn't instill confidence, especially seeing how doable it is after starting my own tribe.

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littlescribe (65) · 5 years ago

when you say "recent developments" you must be referring to the 50/50 vote split and the 20% downvote HF21? In which case I would ask, what do you mean by "I still don't know why y'all would kill off one of the main features and making the trending page into something different entirely."

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coininstant (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

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drakos (70) · 5 years ago

Congrats to the committee members.

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offgridlife (74) · 5 years ago

Awesome. Great choices. I hope this will help Steem go back to $8 soon. Maybe I will start buying some cheap steem.... ready for the MOON..... . Go steem Go.

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isnochys (66) · 5 years ago

The best corruption capitalism can buy.
Lol
:)

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elmarnis (58) · 5 years ago

THANK YOU

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pandamama (62) · 5 years ago

Personally, I'm happy with the choices made . I have met @aggroed over the radio and found him very upright as with @starkers whom I have met personally in Cyprus and having followed him in the early days and seeing the work that he did travelling the country and promoting Steemit - he worked exceptionally hard for Steemit and deserves a lot more recognition

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smokingfit (58) · 5 years ago

Not too concerned with who or what apart from obviously you are gonna get shit for some well obvious thing :). I would very much like to just see the memes and I feel like Matt is the main boss with the two henchmen, somehow shredder comes to mind or maybe biker mice... mmm thinking caps on.

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nildighonto (50) · 5 years ago

would just like to take this moment to say that if @eonwarped can’t improve a situation, then it just isn’t possible. He helps me so much, pretty much DAILY! Excellent little list of wizards here. Cheers all around!

❤️❤️❤️
-Serena

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chrisrice (59) · 5 years ago (edited)

I am interested in someone creating a Steem-based Twitter that uses a feature similar to @algo.coder's @share2steem DAPP where the tweets of verified accounts from people like @theycallmedan, @therealwolf, mine and anyone who has verified their account will be automatically posted to SteemSays.com @steemsays.com, a name for a Steem-based DAPP similar to Twitter.

I imagine that the "Tweets" will be posted as Comments & Replies, NOT posts, and a good marketing message might be something like:

"Got something to say?"

Say it on SteemSays 😀

I want this as an end-user since I am starting to post on Twitter. One idea is to only let people who leave a link to SteemSays im their Twitter Bio to post with a free account and to charge people to have a Premium account without having to link to SteemSays in their account (or make non-Steem users pay but let Steem users who link their account, post for free). That would be one idea for generating revenue but even without that, traditional advertising can probably generate revenue, especially if @steemit Inc. makes a system for Steem-based Dapps to share in some of the revenue from Steemit Inc.'s custom advertising system.

I personally do not have the will-power, capacity or even desire to lead this my self but the name and the tagline was @emafe's idea so I want her to get a 15% stake and then I can transfer the domain names I registered (different spellings of SteemSays in .com) and all the usernames I registered for SteemSays.

It was our idea and we also fronted the money to reserve the digital assets including through @starkerz's @steem.ninja (I am an active user of Steem.Ninja as I have paid for a lot of accounts through them and also delegated to them with @chrisrice, @emaferice, @zaclucasrice & @abello). The only developer I would not surrender the domains and usernames to is @algo.coder but its not because I dont like him but because he changed the deal his had witg the co-Founder of @share2steem once they were underway (I am not judging though).

I think this would be a great idea and as @exyle pointed out, we need to offer a financial incentive for Steemians to post on Twitter.

The branding for this would be good IMO and can easily become a multi-blockchain DAPP like @steemmonsters. If anyone can help me make this a reality, please contact me: [email protected]

Help me help Steem & reward the people that help Steem @whatsup @nonameslefttouse @galenkp @tarazkp @ned @andrarchy @kenmelendez @steem.cafe @eonwarped @cryptodrive @reggaemuffin @themarkymark @nathanmars

~ @chrisrice

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

Not sure we should take that path. These people have created trust not only with the inner group of the "cool kids".
(We all know steem unfortunately has a class system that goes beyond stake)

They have the trust of almost the whole community and that is extremely rare.
Each one of them is extremely approachable and helpful to the point where you know that community interaction is integral in their work.

Thats a huge deal. Ive been here more then a year. Im a dolphin that is extremely active on any significant discussion. Id say most people that have been active at the same time had read something i had to say.
That being said id wager that id have chance to get a response from less then 10% of the "oppinion makers" here on lets say discord.

Their will to be there for a small, medium, big guy is a huge positive which is why you wont hear many complaints. Which is one of the reason Steemit.inc picked them.

I dont think there are many of them like these guys with the trust from the community they have and the effort they put into steem.
Getting rid of them due to possible conflict of interest is a foolish thing imo because no1 is steem succes. I think they know this.

My only concern is the 3speak/Dtube conflict Heimindanger spoke about and i think that can be easily canceled by adding another member into the group from the Dtube team.

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

That being said id wager that id have chance to get a response from less then 10% of the "oppinion makers" here on lets say discord

Less than 10% still leaves a lot more than 3.

It is a basic principle of governance that people should not play a deciding role in decisions which are supposed to be based on a fair and objective framework, when they have a personal interest at stake. Even if they were to decide in a completely fair and objective manner, it absolutely opens up the system to attack with claims that they did not. It should come as no surprise that Steem has more than its share of both internal and external detractors and trolls; ignoring even the most obvious and clear conflicts of interest is feeding them ammunition.

I understand where you are coming from in terms of your personal perception of the three, but not everyone has your exact experiences and will necessarily have your perception or level of confidence (and they should not be expected to; even outsiders should be able to see that the process if fair without knowing that much about the individuals). I don't think the question is even close.

We can certainly find more than three reasonable, fair, inclusive, and respected community members, especially if the rest are alternates who step in only in the specific cases of a direct conflict (and this is also useful if one or more of the committee members is temporarily unavailable due to schedule conflicts, illness, personal leave, etc.; with only three the ability of the committee to function if any member is unavailable is greatly impaired). If we can't we should all just sell our Steem and leave because if there are really only three reasonable people left, we're certainly doomed.

We all know steem unfortunately has a class system that goes beyond stake

That's exactly why it is important to make sure that these decisions can't be attacked on the basis of insiders looking after their own direct interests. It benefits everyone to avoid that appearance, and can easily be done.

Getting rid of them due to possible conflict of interest

No one suggested that. My opinion is that they should step aside in individual cases when specific direct conflicts are present. There can be plenty of other cases where there is no such conflict.

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

Well no.. Thats the point. You can get to these guys almost 100% of the time.

It is a basic principle. But are we really going to apply that here?
Everyone has a vested interest in something here.
Theres not a single person here that is free of that.

And if you go ranking people 1 by 1 based on their personal bias and their personal project support then you find yourself in another problem.
You just put every other quality secondary.

But you tell me. Is there anyone here that has built something, that is well known, that has built trust with the community, that is most importantly not anonymus that would avoid the conflict of interest issue if picked.

I say theres no such person or rather those that are closest to that dont exibit tgose qualities to a satisfactory extent.

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smooth (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

It is very easy to avoid the conflict of interest issue by simply stepping aside in that particular decision when a direct conflict arises. Yes people have built things or are involved with things or they wouldn't be known but no one person has built everything. Direct conflicts like this should be relatively rare.

I'm expressing no view on ranking people or anything of the sort. My view is simply that the committee ought to be a bit larger or have alternates so one member or another occasionally stepping aside on a particular decision. as they should, is not disruptive to the overall functioning of the committee (and similarly for occasional absence for other reasons).

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honusurf (62) · 5 years ago

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