Why a lack of established morals lead to communism/socialism

in communism •  5 years ago 

I am not 100% certain who made the following comment but the comment sounded something like 'even an athiest should be greatful the words "In God we trust' is on Amercian money'

As a personal mission statment, I have declared that I am going to dedicate myself in helping to train a moral army https://steemit.com/steemit/@captaintj/what-do-you-get-out-of-being-on-steemit

I am a follower of CHRIST and I want other people to be followers of CHRIST, however many people think that if they do not want to follow CHRIST then they must default to being an athiest...that is simply untrue. There is a large catagory of people that do not want to follow CHRIST yet they still maintain a moral compass. These people are called deists
noun: deism
belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind.
Origin
late 17th century: from Latin deus ‘god’ + -ism.

Basicly a deist says that there is a god or things called gods, but that persons life is unefected by them. As you can imagine I do not want to encourage people to turn away from GOD, I just realize the connection between moral values and a strong healthy society.
Amercian actor and funny man Steve Harvey commented on what I am trying to point out

1 single atheist might say that they have moral convictions, but the odds of another atiest having the same moral convictions is near 0%. So how can a strong society be built whenever people cannot agree upon which direction to pull the rope?

From what I understand formerly the British goverment was religious, and instead of being devoted to God they used religion like it was a club (to oppress Amercia with) That goverment said that there is a God (who has all of the power) next in line is the king (and the king recieves power from God) next in line are the people (who recieve no power from God, the people only recieve power from the king) In effect the king was saying 'if I want to deny a group of people a certain right, then I have done no wrong because the power is mine to give' And Amercias founding fathers said 'nope' (thats the war for independence, or the revolutionary war and we celibrate the victory on July 4th)
Basicly socialism and communism say the same thing (except socialism and communism say that 'ther is no god' but the state (goverment) is the closest thing to 'god'

The whole thing goes back to the fact that (almost) everyone wants to be charitable (although we understand that the true heart of mankind is selfishness, and selfishness is anti christianity) So people want to fool themselves into thinking that they are a bashtion of good, but at the same time thoes people do not want to listen to GOD (who is LOVE) they do not want to be told 'how to Love' (and Loving people is no easy task!)
So what is a system that shows 'love' to people, but that system also removes the bothersome religious aspects ...wait I know what system is like that its called called socialism/communism.

As a personal mission statment, I have declared that I am going to dedicate myself in helping to train a moral army https://steemit.com/steemit/@captaintj/what-do-you-get-out-of-being-on-steemit

I am a follower of CHRIST and I want other people to be followers of CHRIST, however many people think that if they do not want to follow CHRIST then they must default to being an athiest...that is simply untrue. There is a large catagory of people that do not want to follow CHRIST yet they still maintain a moral compass. These people are called deists
noun: deism
belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind.
Origin
late 17th century: from Latin deus ‘god’ + -ism.

Basicly a deist says that there is a god or things called gods, but that persons life is unefected by them. As you can imagine I do not want to encourage people to turn away from GOD, I just realize the connection between moral values and a strong healthy society.
Amercian actor and funny man Steve Harvey commented on what I am trying to point out

1 single atheist might say that they have moral convictions, but the odds of another atiest having the same moral convictions is near 0%. So how can a strong society be built whenever people cannot agree upon which direction to pull the rope?

From what I understand formerly the British goverment was religious, and instead of being devoted to God they used religion like it was a club (to oppress Amercia with) That goverment said that there is a God (who has all of the power) next in line is the king (and the king recieves power from God) next in line are the people (who recieve no power from God, the people only recieve power from the king) In effect the king was saying 'if I want to deny a group of people a certain right, then I have done no wrong because the power is mine to give' And Amercias founding fathers said 'nope' (thats the war for independence, or the revolutionary war and we celibrate the victory on July 4th)
Basicly socialism and communism say the same thing (except socialism and communism say that 'ther is no god' but the state (goverment) is the closest thing to 'god'

The whole thing goes back to the fact that (almost) everyone wants to be charitable (although we understand that the true heart of mankind is selfishness, and selfishness is anti christianity) So people want to fool themselves into thinking that they are a bashtion of good, but at the same time thoes people do not want to listen to GOD (who is LOVE) they do not want to be told 'how to Love' (and Loving people is no easy task!)
So what is a system that shows 'love' to people, but that system also removes the bothersome religious aspects ...wait I know what system is like that its called called socialism/communism.

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I seem to remember something in the good book about people who reject the idea of a creator and how they are prone to believing a wild lie (instead of holding to the truth). You know of that one?

It seems to me that you could be referring to

2 Thessalonians 2:11
Because of this, God sends a deceptive influence over them so they will wander from the truth and believe the lie.

This passage is reffering to the anti-christ or the people that reject following the TRUTH (JESUS is the WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE) GOD is saying in the above passage, 'all'right you people rejected MY SON for long enough, so now I am going to allow you guys to chase your shadows.'

But it sounds like you are talking about

Romans 1:28
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

However in both cases a similar point is made by GOD, and the point is that none of us know what tomorow holds, none of us should put off the most important piece of business...because as we have seen: GOD might get fed up with our anticts!

2 Corinthians 6:2
For he says, "In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you." I tell you, now is the time of God's favor, now is the day of salvation.

(I want to say Thank You for asking this question, because among other things, your question caused me to further search the scriptures! :)