If you post using certain platforms, your post gets more visibility from the account behind the platform and its more likely that you get a significant vote from them. This vote, by itself, could be the one making your post a succesful one -whatever that may be - and these platforms are supporting so many users it is astounding.
I have one word for these platforms and this situation: Awesomeness.
These platforms are improving the steemcosystem so much, and the amount of delegated Steem power they were given is being used correctly to encourage users to use these tools, to support Steemians who post quality content. I admire the curators behind these accounts because the content they vote on is great 99% of the time - solid percentage if you ask me.
The ideas and the people behind these projects is exactly what Steem - the coin - needs to keep getting stronger organically. We need more projects like these, and less bidbots, making good use of delegated Steem Power but that´s another story...
I´m not here to speak about these platforms and delegations or their voting behaviour because I wouldn´t have anything to write except: They are doing what they are supposed to, and they are doing it amazingly.
I´m here to write about the authors posting through these Steem front-ends.
First of all, these platforms were created to encourage mass adoption. The more people that posts through DTube, DLive, Utopian, Dmania etc, the more succesful the platform could be.
But lately, while browsing the tags used by posts that publish through DDU (DTube/DLive/Utopian), I noticed that some of them, had the same authors being rewarded over and over.
Nothing wrong with that, awesome content deserves great rewards and it is not in the curators side of the field to say who posts or who doesn´t, a curators job is to browse posts and vote on the content that deserves a vote in exchange of the quality and effort within the post, no matter who makes the post. As a matter of fact, the author behind the post is unimportant when you are curating, what matters is the content.
On the other hand, if we analyze this situation with a more critical eye, the same authors being rewarded over and over actually hurts these various front-ends.
But what can these platforms do if the same users keep posting amazing content 2-3 times a day? They are going to vote on it because the post deserves it and because their reason to be is encouraging more people to use their tools, by voting on the content that deserves it.
This situation got me thinking...
Content creator, Don´t think of @dtube/ @dlive/ @utopian-io as your personal clinched voter!
Think about it like this: Your content is awesome, it deserves being voted everytime and I won´t ask you to stop posting via these platforms, after all, you are helping to spread the word with your posts about these amazing front-ends and you, as a succesful content creator are helping mass adoption.
But everytime you post your amazing content, it takes away visibility from other people who are adopting or are posting via DDU (DTube/DLive/Utopian) for the first time. They might not get a big vote or might get a smaller vote because of your second post - that is amazing - of the day using DDU got a vote... we all know the reward pool and DDU´s Steem Power is limited.
We want mass adoption on DDU, and every post made counts, but if a newbie sees the same author being rewarded every day or twice a day - again, even if it is deserved - and they look at their freshly made post get scraps - and it might or may not deserve a big vote - they probably won´t use DDU again.
I know we all want rewards and if a posting strategy works for you, you will keep using it. If your amazing content is being rewarded by DDU, it is only logical that you continue posting using the front-end available that is supporting your content.
All I´m saying is: Give some room for new adopters, those who will help mass adoption, we need the numbers to reach mass adoption. So step away for a while, don´t post everyday using DDU.
Think of DDU as a great tool, but not the only ones, and not as your personal voter. Let other people receive some love too, because if you keep posting twice a day your amazing content that deserves a DDU vote, there are some newbies that will not get a vote, and they might also deserve it.
That is the reason why I use DTube once or twice a week. It might not make a big difference, but the way I like to see it is, if I am not getting rewarded every day, it means someone else is, and I sure hope it is a newbie.
Bottom line: DDU will keep voting awesome content, it depends of us if we let other users get visibility.
Well I would like to agree with you on both points that these platforms were created to add more value to the steeitm community and also only certain people or we should say those who are old here dominating the space.
The thing is they are experienced and early adopters of these platforms but there should be some mechanism which could help and boast new users like me who joined only three weeks ago.
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May I ask what you want?
Just looked at you profile - not a single post via any of the above platforms - How can you complain about not getting any upvotes from them if you don't use them?
And stop talking something about only being here for 3 weeks, your old account (the one you use to upvote all of your comments with borrowed SP) is from September or something. Did I mention your old account ONLY upvotes you. Is that the adding of value to the steem community you are talking about?
There are definitely new users who deserve support. Someone like you, who is only trying to get quick money and then complains about not getting support is definitely not one of them.
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That´s some serious detective skills, I guess SC need to know about this new friend with alt´s circlejerking each other :D
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What say about that? Strong sincerity. 👍
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Dude, impressive! Makes me proud of steemit
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Good idea....😍😍😍
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Btw, I never, ever, ever vote on my content on the first minutes, I uaually wait hours so people can get Curation Rewards out of my posts, but I voted it this time to try and give visibility to this post and reach more people.
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We will forgive you this time, but only this one time! :D Great post btw, will do my first post on dtube in a couple of days, if I can find some time to edit my video...
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I like your description "the Steem Ecosystem". As more people migrate from Youtube and Facebook, I think these platforms are going to boom and the price of Steem will experience a huge increase in price. You are correct... Awesome!
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Hi - it's an interesting take directing this at the creators, but shouldn't it be directed at the curators?
From a cursory analysis of Dtube compared to Utopian, I get the impression that the threshold level of 'awesomeness' is A LOT higher on Utopian - whoever curates that really will just reward the best posts, irrespective of whether they're a new user or an experienced user (it seems).
DTube is another matter - there's just too much trivial rambling, let's call it mediocre content rather than low quality, getting upvoted by DTube!
I don't know enough about D Live to comment.
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There is one thing that makes Utopian different from other platforms rewarding their users. Utopian has a serious reason to give its users such great support, because there is a huge work on optimizaion open sourced projects behind every post. If through Dtube people do post how they spent the weekend, then through Utopian they post how they improved Dtube.
For Utopian, it does not matter whether you're a new user or an old one, the amount of compensation depends mostly on the category of work done. If the post is about coding, fixing bugs in applications or analyzing data arrays, it will always get more reward than post in the category of "ideas for a website".
Why are posts made through Utopian always quality? Because they have 100% manual moderation and high requirements for contributions. Only the quantity and quality of the work done, its usefulness are matter here. If the post with the #utopian-io tag has no a reply from the moderator under it in 48 hours, then it means it does not meet the quality standards and will not receive an apvote from the Utopian bot. It will simply be published on Steemit under this tag.
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I have no comments for utopian/dlive, but dtube is taking 25% of rewards regardless whether they upvote or not, and upvote is just depending the curator behind like the post or not. I don't think it is fair and that is why I am not posting using dtube anymore.
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I didn't know this! Thank you for sharing . I just tried it yesterday and maybe its not something for minnows to use for this reason?
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I never knew it either .. I was about to try out one - Dtube.. Thanks for the sharing.. as this info valuable esp for the minnows like me.
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you mentioned lots of great Ideas in this article.
I believe D-Tube is going in the right way because lots of talented guys and gals doing their best and post some great content in it.
Some I am just waiting for YouTube to announce that there is a big competitor which is D-Tube and cold threaten YouTube to disappear lool
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Thanks for writing this up. I hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears. Steemit can only become more attractive to content creators and viewers as the distribution of payouts becomes fairer. It's curious that they seem to push such large votes on a few people repeatedly when it would get people way more hyped with even a few dollar votes spread out here and there. I can see how it's hard indeed for those who are in the position to make something and get an almost assured chance to get a few hundred dollars worth from a post every time to not take the opportunity at every chance, but it definitely isn't the route to mass adoption.
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good post
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Your way of thinking is good, I agree with you, share it with others, especially with novice steemians to be more eager to create quality content. If we make a post 2 or 3 times a day, then attention can lead to posts. and post newbie steemians will be missed, which may also be worth the vote.
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This is true.. i think awesome writers should strike a balance in their time frame of making consecutuve posts so as to allow others to also reap rewards
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Well I totally agree , because when I started steem game 7 months ago I struggled a lot getting tiny bit of attention to my blog also my rewards were disasterous , however these platforms provide some kind of return if you follow the guidelines and contribute and this is awesome because there is one problem in this platform and that is visibility I hope we see more platform in the future working with beneficiary system and delegated SP more.
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Hmm I understand your point, but I am not too sure I agree with it. If someone is doing a series or a challenge where they post a video every day, as long as they are high-quality posts, I don't think they should step down from that. I am pretty sure there are other ways of supporting new people (like me), such as viewing other's content, upvoting, and leaving encouraging comments. Then again, I'm too new to this to have a very accurate opinion, but that's my thought upon reading this.
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Great aticle but you should have added links to those platform
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I love it. This is so conscientious. It's hard to ask someone to stop posting So Much awesome content LOL but I appreciate how you naturally self-regulate and only use it a couple times a week to leave room for newbies to have more space. True community player looking out for the best interest of the platform and future of steem! yeah! <3
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Nicework
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It is a wild game! I choose to not vote my own stuff in hopes that my account will grow organically, but in turn I try to upvote everything else as much as I can.
For the last two weeks I have been making a daily vlog using Dtube. I love it, and when you catch a dtube upvote it makes you feel great.
Like any other post, you post what you enjoy...if others like it, it is a bonus. 🙃
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it's a bit contraversy
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i agree with your point but for me as newbie if i really want to have a big reward i won’t give up posting good contents and make those famous author to be my inspiration that someday i will be like them.
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What is DUtopian?
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I completely agree with you!!!
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I've been wanting to make a DTube post just need to make the time.
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The idea of your post is respectable @anomadsoul, we definitely want to avoid letting steemit turn into a place where only the standard "steemit celebrities" get to have big payouts all the time.
However from my experience in curating for @curie, @ocd (briefly), and now helping to launch the @sndbox-alpha trail as well, I will say: The problem IMO is mostly not that some people are taking too many rewards. It's more that there is a lack of upvote-able content from newer users
MANY new users post content that is simply not of acceptable quality. Generally speaking it is my belief that anybody who makes high quality posts (i.e. good format, grammar, original content, and at least a few minutes long whether 300+ words or a few minutes of good quality video) can get upvotes from some of the major curation initiatives going around Steemit.
Thus I think the best move for our current successful users is to mentor newbies and help them improve their content. There's plenty of room at the top of Steemit for now - we just need to help teach our newer members how to create reasonably good content.
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Then I agree with @anomadsoul.
Many times I feel that my work is not valued enough (However, my thanks go to @curie, I received one time his vote).
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This is exactly what i am observing with platforms.i hope the team could make a way through this so new users could also be given the vote they deserve although its their first time to use it.
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I strongly agree with your point anodmadsoul.thanks alot l got apoint there.
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can I join here
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Its my first time reading about DDU... i really appreciate you innovative thinking towards the newbies... Thank You
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You brought up some valid points, though I don't know how one would stem that unless curbed by the users themselves. I wasn't aware there were so many posts by repeat authors on these platforms.
I think the rule changes on utopian served to advance the repeat authors. Don't get me wrong. I think the intention is headed in the right direction if quality was such an issue.
Like many people, I don't immediately jump to adopt tougher rules. I understand their importance though, and get over it. But when rules aren't very clear, it dissuades a newcomer from wanting to contribute.
Maybe it's just me and I'm not giving up by any means. But I bet others feel the same way about it too.
Cheers! :)
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excellent friend as always. a greeting from Venezuela
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Thank you sir. I think you got a big heart for minnows like me. Appreciated a lot sir. And may god bless you more. X
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Well said @anomadsoul. You are absolutely right, if these platforms hear you, they will attract many new users. I perfectly understand those users who have published several articles through some kind of service, have not received attention - have ceased to publish. It's about me. The only time I got an upvote from Dtube, this is your contest "my usual day when" I shot a video. All the other times, I was not seen, because of what I stopped publishing the video. Thank you for making Steemit better. Good luck to you and Good.
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I think the curators of those platforms just should set themselves a limit of three upvotes per user per week - Or something similar to that!
This way we also would see who is making content just to grab easy money because the curators like them or who wants to make great content anyways.
Would be really interesting to see what this does to the posting behavior of the people profiting the most atm! :)
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Excellent idea - but I think it will end up in the usual solution, the big boys get also on these tools the votes while the others are f...ed - as now all big ones jump on the train they will also have the advantage of the usual shit! Sorry for sounding negative.
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Very good this post, you have my vote. I already follow you and I invite you to go through my blog maybe something you like and you can support me with your vote. Greetings.
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Good idea year😍😍😍😍
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Great info, man.
Been told many times to use dsound as a platform to post my podcast to get more viewership(listeners?).
I want to but it just keeps crashing when I hit that publish button.
I guess I'll just keep trying in the meantime :)
Thanks for the post!
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Don't forget Zappl.com.
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i agree with you totally, voting the same author over and over might be perceived wrongly and end up hurtin the reputation and credibility of these platforms, i mean there is an array of quality that abounds on steemit and rewards should be distributed evenly
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Nice 1
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You took the words right out of my mouth, I was browsing dtube the other day and felt like most of the dtube votes I see go to the same accounts, sigh. (not that those accounts are bad) But they tend to be accounts that are already dolphins+ and for minnows it continues to feel like a struggle to get noticed. Just keep keeping on I guess.
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Hey guys, I joined steem like 3 weeks ago with a freinds advice and totally loved it. My friend tould me that 6 months ago everything was much harder in the steem because of the absence of Dtube/Dlive/Utopian and delegated accouts like these. Im so happy that I found these platforms.
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This good shit gets a resteem
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hay @anomadsoul can i translate to indonesia this post, this post is very good, i want to share to my followers
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I vaguely remember reading sometime last year one of the more popular bloggers on here saying they "take a break from the reward pool" (ie only post a couple of times a week maybe) because their posts earn so much. Even though it could equally be to do with just balancing their daily schedules I thought it was pretty civic-minded of them.
Seems like a decent thing to do along with trying to upvote, resteem and otherwise encourage all the newer accounts that are doing their best to put out their best work :)
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It is another interesting topic, recently I noticed that many people using DTube and if they mention that it is Exclusive for DTube then they definitely get upvote, people are clever and if they see that this strategy works of course they will use it. I do not know if there any limit for upvotes a day by DTube if not then you can imagine that people would be encourage by that. This is the way how to get high valued post, you will be in trending for few days and of course been seen, again newbies will also upvote those post in order to be seen by those people but they are never been seen or upvoted. People say because they have not good quality contents it is not always truth, because they have no SP their post disappear in seconds and also because of no SP many will just ignore them. @anomadsoul, how about yoursel, have you ever voted not as an OCD-curator when you have to but on you own, have you ever upvoted with 50 or 100% any newcomer only because you like his post? I think if you want a bit of balance then those platform need to put limitation for upvote, such as 1 post a day @qurator and @busy are doing it and it is fair everyone get upvote just once a day, for delphines and whales they will not notice much as they anyway receive much of their payout from selfupvotes.
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What you have decided to do on DTube is very noble!
I've also noticed that some users dominate some of the services.
Did you notice this one on dMania? - https://steemit.com/dmania/@artz/dmania-2017-statistics
Here are the stats for 5.5 Top authors by comments under their posts"
And here.. top authors but number of posts:
Looks like some of guys are addicted to dMania. I see one with 15% which is super impressive indeed.
I think this is basically a good illustration of what you are saying.
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As a new user of DTube I agree with this, too. I just posted my first video last night and I am excited to use Dtube more. And i really like most of the content out there getting lots of votes so I agree with you that its often well deserved. The idea of stepping aside here and there seems like a nice compromise in the soirit of growing community and supporting minnows who are in that realm of needing thier content to be seen to encourage them to grow (both in content quality and in steem) and not having big enough SP to really get seen...
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Usually I tend to agree to most of your stuff - I really see also here an increase tendency that the big ones jump on the bandwagon and get now the votes others received before. It is increasing the gap between Whales and the rest - @theaustrianguy made a good suggestion below but I certainly fear these Apps will end up with the same reward allocation like the rest of steemit - trending and high rewards are pre-booked by the powerful. (While I might say i only used 1 of the 3 above)
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I think expecting content creators who are doing well and have worked hard to build an audience, brand and reputation for creating solid content regularly to stop doing that, is maybe not a reasonable expectation. To ask someone successful to slow down to allow a chance to be found for people who haven't been willing to put in years of work building their audience, brand and reputation is sort of backwards. I think the people who leave in 3 days, well, they're maybe not Steemit material yet. I was one of those people at first, I wanted/expected a quick buck, not a long haul slow and steady thing. Now I can see the potential and I understand you get out of these platforms what you put in. Posting amazing content and running away to wait for the money to roll in isn't enough, you have to put in comments and build relationships with people.
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It's a good plea, but I don't know how many of those people would do it. They're going to take advantage of the opportunity that's afforded to them, even if it does hurt mass adoption. I won't even try to speak for them, but I feel like if it's not them then it's going to be someone else doing it. I do hope that your plea is heard and that it could make a difference.
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I admire the newbie mindset, gives the group I am part of (@trulaloo), a glimpse of hope.
We are going to launch entertainment videos soon, but we are getting anxious about the content Dtube appreciates. Hopefully, there will be room for humor-inclined videos.
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His is so true. You simply cant expect to rape the reward pool. A lot of people are also trying to grow here and the way I see it you realy seem to enjoy helping others. I benefitted a lot from you in your conests a few weeks back and I hope I will be able to join more. Keep up your work!
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Obama said that to people in Africa, he said that we got to give other people more room meaning we must not all be rich to have air conditioning, big houses, cars, and everything. Other people talk about stuff like that. Competition is scary. Capitalism is scary. We sometimes feel we must balance it all. Like basketball for example, we don't want the two tall players on the same team. How bad was it when the 1992 Dream Team, featuring Michael Jordan, Magic, Larry Bird, & others, was, when they were schooling the other countries in the Olympics? Was that fair? Should we make sure we spread the NBA players out to the other teams in the different countries for the Olympics to make i more fair? Should there be a limit to how big the whales get on Steemit? This is a big debate people have. I say, I know it can feel unfair as some get bigger and while others get smaller. It is scary world. It is also an exciting world too at the same time. I'm Oatmeal.
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