SBI Word Cloud

ash (73) · 5 years ago

I wonder what kind of impacts hf21 will have on any service on top of steem...

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sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

We have written about the expected impacts twice.

We will automatically adapt to 50/50 by increasing the total rshares delivered to each member: https://steempeak.com/hf21/@steembasicincome/sbi-in-an-hf21-world-part-1-50-50-rewards

Since the impact of CLRC and downvote pools will be different for every single member, depending on where they are on the curve, we are not making any changes to rshares delivered. https://busy.org/@steembasicincome/sbi-in-an-hf21-world-part-2-convergent-linear-and-downvote-pools

Having SBI support will still help you be higher up the curve than you would be without it.

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10 votes

igienistamentale (36) · 5 years ago

I love Basic Income concept... thanks for what you are doing, guys!

!sbi status

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norwegianbikeman (56) · 5 years ago

a think one thank you is enough. :) no need to spam. just a ide

3 votes

xdo-no (31) · 5 years ago

I think people forget that it doesn't take a big donation to help someone, just a lot of little donations. [Hannah Teter]

^{^{^{^{!sbi status}}}}

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sbi3 (59) · 5 years ago

Hi @xdo-no!

you have 2 units and 0 bonus units
your rshares balance is 368377467487 or 0.145 $
as you did not wrote a post within the last 7 days, your comments will be upvoted.
you need to wait until your upvote value (current value: 0.016 $) is above 0.046 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

75.29 % has come from your subscription level
0.00 % has come from your bonus units
0.00 % has come from upvoting rewards
24.71 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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14 votes

coinchek (25) · 5 years ago

Greatings from @coinchek!

!sbi status

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steemmillionaire (65) · 5 years ago

With the curation rewards after HF21, is the SBI model changing in any way?

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3 votes

sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

We will automatically adapt to 50/50 by increasing the total rshares delivered to each member: https://steempeak.com/hf21/@steembasicincome/sbi-in-an-hf21-world-part-1-50-50-rewards

Since the impact of CLRC and downvote pools will be different for every single member, depending on where they are on the curve, we are not making any additional changes until we have more information about the emergent equilibrium. https://busy.org/@steembasicincome/sbi-in-an-hf21-world-part-2-convergent-linear-and-downvote-pools

Having SBI support will still help you be higher up the curve than you would be without it.

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8 votes

igienistamentale (36) · 5 years ago

I love Basic Income concept... thanks for what you are doing, guys!

!sbi status

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roger5120 (67) · 5 years ago

When will the upvoting resume? I haven’t receive an upvote for my last two posting.
Just wanted to ask, thank you.

Posted using Partiko iOS

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sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

Hopefully in the next few hours unless there was a bug in our upgrade that we can't detect until after replay is completed.

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8 votes

igienistamentale (36) · 5 years ago

I love Basic Income concept... thanks for what you are doing, guys!

!sbi status

roger5120 (67) · 5 years ago

Thank you so much for your response. Appreciate it greatly.

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xdo-no (31) · 5 years ago

I think people forget that it doesn't take a big donation to help someone, just a lot of little donations. [Hannah Teter]

^{^{^{^{!sbi status}}}}

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coinchek (25) · 5 years ago

Greatings from @coinchek!

!sbi status

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pgnpiano (66) · 5 years ago

Hey @steembasicincome just to let you know that your upvote did not go out for a post for me posted over 24 hours ago. Maybe there is still something not working?

sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

There was an issue with node replay and it started again. We have resolved that and catch-up votes are going out now.

Remember that only delivered rshares value is removed from your pending upvote balance, so even if some posts still get missed the pending rshares will be delivered on future posts.

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6 votes

pgnpiano (66) · 5 years ago

Thank you!!! :)

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jongolson (74) · 5 years ago

Hey guys, been a few hours since my post, didn't see any votes come in from SBI. Just letting you know per your instructions above :)

2 votes

sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

Thanks. We found that some API changes were resulting in votes delivered not being deducted from member pending vote balances. Since that creates a value leak, we paused voting until Beem can be upgraded.

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tonyz (63) · 5 years ago

Same here.

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newageinv (70) · 5 years ago

Based on early indications, it seems that the SBI service will be even more important now with the lower payouts being seen on smaller accounts. Look forward to seeing how the community moves forward with this.

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sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

Thanks, that was part of our overall conclusion too.

While our members are mostly at the low end of the curve and hurt by CLRC instead of helped by it, a growing SBI support base makes an even bigger impact now than it did before.

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arabisouri (70) · 5 years ago

Downvoting is bad in general, unless it's used to knock out spam and abuse, other than that if you disagree in opinion with someone else just vice your opinion and people can vote who they agree with.
Also, the new split of earnings between authors and curators, I see it's not fair to pay 'Likers' equally to those who work to produce proper contents. Just compare the work behind making a post and that fit curating it, you should know better with all the hard work you've doing in programming and updating us with the results.

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sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

Thanks for sharing your perspective. Downvoting is an important part of reaching rewards consensus. Especially with the convergent rewards curve in place, it's time to stop thinking about votes as delivering 'value' but instead of being a vote for that post to receive value.

An upvote says "I think this post is more valuable than shown" while a downvote says "I think this post is less valuable than shown."
There is also an idea around curating accounts instead of posts, which is how SBI works. Sponsoring somebody says "I think this account should consistently receive more value".

The reasons why somebody is downvoted vary by the downvoter, but I generally agree downvoting based disagreement with what is said creates a very problematic environment. Should the value of somebody's work be tied to their 'right-think'? I don't believe so.

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preparedwombat (70) · 5 years ago

I’ve done some downvotes and one of the folks did extreme revenge downvoting with multiple accounts. Such is life.

SBI upvotes since the HF seem to have a significant delay of hours as opposed to minutes.

sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

Yes we've been experiencing a lot more API issues with our nodes. At this point we are paused until Beem can be upgraded for the new API calls.

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4 votes

cflclosers (67) · 5 years ago

One think I just thought of is that after the fork there is very little incentive to engage your commentors with votes. I imagine give a share of SBI to your followers who engage would be more profitable for everyone.

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r2cornell (69) · 5 years ago

I have always upvoted comments on my posts and now only half of what I upvote shows. What happens to the rest?

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2 votes

cflclosers (67) · 5 years ago

good question and I'm not sure of the exact breakdown. I'm going to accumulate beer token and give them out instead

sbi-booster (58) · 5 years ago

When you cast an upvote, you are delivering a certain amount of 'votes for reward' or 'rshares' to that post. During the period of HF19 and HF20, their conversion value to SP/STEEM/SBD at time of payout was relatively consistent relative to stake (what is referred to as linear rewards curve).

Now instead of the value relationship between vote points and reward being linear, it follows a quadratic curve that is being referred to as convergent linear rewards curve or CLRC. You need to stop thinking about your upvotes having a fixed value. Your are delivering vote points and their value is based on the total distribution of vote points throughout the blockchain.

The greater the total rshares delivered to a piece of content, the more favorable their conversion ratio into SP/STEEM/SBD at payout. The various dapps show an estimated payout value based on the current state of pending content, but it can change a lot more between vote and payout than previously.

In particular, each additional vote increases the rshares on something and improves its total payout favorability. In effect, each additional vote increases the pending value of all votes already on the content. This will not always be apparent when you vote, because many other votes may have gone out to other content elsewhere at the same time, and the ratios are based on relative totals.

This is also why many have been specifically targeting trending content with their downvote pools.

For more on the topic: https://busy.org/@steembasicincome/sbi-in-an-hf21-world-part-2-convergent-linear-and-downvote-pools

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bluengel (76) · 5 years ago

Welcome Back SBI 💙 ♬

Posted using Partiko Android

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silverd510 (74) · 5 years ago

Thank you for the update

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steem-ua (64) · 5 years ago

Hi @steembasicincome!

Your post was upvoted by @steem-ua, new Steem dApp, using UserAuthority for algorithmic post curation!
Your UA account score is currently 6.003 which ranks you at #333 across all Steem accounts.
Your rank has not changed in the last three days.

In our last Algorithmic Curation Round, consisting of 115 contributions, your post is ranked at #69.

Evaluation of your UA score:

You've built up a nice network.
The readers like your work!
Try to work on user engagement: the more people that interact with you via the comments, the higher your UA score!

Feel free to join our @steem-ua Discord server

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arabisouri (70) · 5 years ago

!sbi status

Posted using Partiko Android

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sbi3 (59) · 5 years ago

Hi @arabisouri!

you have 7 units and 50 bonus units
your rshares balance is 173932993311 or 0.068 $
you need to wait until your upvote value (current value: 0.023 $) is above 0.023 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

29.07 % has come from your subscription level
33.54 % has come from your bonus units
23.12 % has come from upvoting rewards
14.27 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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18 votes

sbi5 (58) · 5 years ago

Hi @arabisouri!

you have 7 units and 50 bonus units
your rshares balance is 273509340166 or 0.108 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.036 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

25.86 % has come from your subscription level
35.81 % has come from your bonus units
25.86 % has come from upvoting rewards
12.47 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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18 votes

kokoliso (56) · 5 years ago

!sbi status

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sbi6 (58) · 5 years ago

Hi @kokoliso!

you have 17 units and 0 bonus units
your rshares balance is 435248181749 or 0.171 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.057 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

28.48 % has come from your subscription level
0.00 % has come from your bonus units
71.52 % has come from upvoting rewards
0.00 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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13 votes

sbi6 (58) · 5 years ago

Hi @kokoliso!

you have 17 units and 0 bonus units
your rshares balance is 362856963408 or 0.141 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.047 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

28.66 % has come from your subscription level
0.00 % has come from your bonus units
71.34 % has come from upvoting rewards
0.00 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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15 votes

pgnpiano (66) · 5 years ago

!sbi status

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sbi3 (59) · 5 years ago

Hi @pgnpiano!

you have 472 units and 44 bonus units
your rshares balance is 6030654598869 or 2.376 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.792 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

87.63 % has come from your subscription level
1.62 % has come from your bonus units
2.08 % has come from upvoting rewards
8.66 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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17 votes

sbi6 (58) · 5 years ago

Hi @pgnpiano!

you have 472 units and 44 bonus units
your rshares balance is 6302176898723 or 2.484 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.828 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

87.62 % has come from your subscription level
1.64 % has come from your bonus units
2.09 % has come from upvoting rewards
8.65 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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14 votes

tobetada (70) · 5 years ago

!sbi status

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sbi8 (57) · 5 years ago

Hi @tobetada!

you have 94 units and 500 bonus units
your rshares balance is 1315520602983 or 0.519 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.173 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

36.82 % has come from your subscription level
25.92 % has come from your bonus units
34.68 % has come from upvoting rewards
2.58 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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17 votes

sbi7 (58) · 5 years ago

Hi @tobetada!

you have 94 units and 500 bonus units
your rshares balance is 1982288053635 or 0.781 $
your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.260 $

Structure of your total SBI vote value:

32.45 % has come from your subscription level
32.43 % has come from your bonus units
32.92 % has come from upvoting rewards
2.21 % has come from new account bonus or extra value from pre-automation rewards

Did you know that your SBI level shows in your Steempeak wallet?

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13 votes

drotto (48) · 5 years ago

This post has received a 3.13 % upvote from @drotto thanks to: @sbi-booster.

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bobskibob (60) · 5 years ago

!sbi status

Posted using Partiko iOS

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