We are in a state of confusion about the direction of STEEM, there has been contradictions between what @ned is communicating and what @sneak is communicating. That makes us investors... uneasy.
Dropping the PC/MAC-Users?
I was so sad so sad when I heard that the focus is 100% on mobile users and 0% on PC/MAC-Users when @sneak came to our beloved @steamspeak to inform us that he needed to hire developers to accomplish the roadmap that he wrote.
I am a Desktop/Laptop-User and I will be for life. Please no kill me!
I understand that cellphone-users/smartphone-users is a big market, and that we are going to be more "Instagram" in the future then a blogging-platform. Well, at leas that is what most of us is confused about.
We are about 500+ Users on @steemspeak now, and just a few of us use the cellp hone, some of us actually just bought a mechanical keyboard and a 4K 27" Display to have even more overview. Personally, I could never make a blog from a small phone, my hands and my fingers are way too big for that.
Please do not exclude old users and throw us in the trash. I want to be here forever
I was so sad so sad when @nate came into @steemspeak the other day and shared some articles with us that for a brand to grow, it has to abandon its early adopters. Does that mean we should pack our things and leave? But I like it here!
Where are the vision, the spunk - the spark that can give us the boost we need to look forward to a steemit-future we all can look forward to? What happened to confidential transactions? Private Messages between STEEM accounts? are they not important enough to address?
And onboarding users - @sneak says one thing - @ned says another thing - who can we believe in right now with all this confusion coming from @steemit inc?
Some comforting words of enlightenment from @ned & @dan would help a lot in silencing the grumblings among the people.
Sincerely, and in all friendliness
@fyrstikken
Just a normal boy from the country.
@ned The site should be designed out similar to how facebook is, then the mobile app should reflect the site imo. If we are going to have an integrated chat system similar to facebook, we should model the desktop site after that similar model. Many people stumble upon Steemit using google on a Desktop. I think its equally important to at least have a well fleshed out website with a fancy landing page, similar to how twitter and fb do it. Vote weight meter, etc there are a ton of things to add to the webpage.. The mobile app should reflect a well built out site. Once communities are added it should be equally as easy to navigate on the Desktop site as the Mobile. I also hope Steemit updates the logo soon. The sooner we get that sorted out the better. I also think video should be incorporated into the plan, in my opinion this is go big or go home. Some will use this platform to write, some will use it to post video. Some will use it to upload pictures. I have read some of the most interesting things on Steemit and a feature to bookmark those posts would be nice. Steemit could be a facebook,instagram,blogging site all in one if designed properly. For example, some people upload a ton of art to the site, it would be nice to have a place in your profile to view all the photos you have uploaded. Similar to fb/instagram. The ideas are limitless. Just some stuff for yall to think about. @ned @dan @dantheman
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I love it! Upvoted!
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@ned @dan @dantheman , maybe Steemit could offer a custom social media experience, an all in one platform... customize your profile. Maybe some want a blogging type profile, some a Instagram type profile ... some only video blogs. There would be different trending pages, different communities. Some similar to reddit, others similar to Instagram/tumblr? These are just random ideas in my head, I hope they make some sense or give you some more inspiration/ideas.
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And some other want a combination of all of it. They want to write, to blog, to vlog, to socialize, to scam, sneak, to peak, all at the same time!
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Options never hurt!
I was 16 when I was invited to Pittsburgh Art Institute solely based on my flash website which allowed you to change the themes and background, basic stuff, had some music, simple portfolio I made.
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A lot of opportunities that are awaiting us @ned!
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I am still missing the PC which I'm trying to get Microsoft to fix. Even working on a laptop now is restrictive in crafting the post. I'm resorting to trying Linux boot with enough frustration from Windows. Seriously, it will be difficult to write on a mobile. Even in the earlier days of resteem (or reblog when it first came), I was using mobile to upvote in the morning and end up resteeming couple of times.
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I feel you brother. I am a Keyboard-Warrior, born and raised. Cannot blog without my ten fingers. I do not even send SMS.
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It's all about that voice-to-text. ;-)
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With my broken English? Are you kidding me?
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......... been wanting to do more of that but on phone it's a bit of killer unless you have unlimited data.
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Voice to text???
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Yes, i thought that voice goes up the network then translate to text which comes back down.
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I learn touch typing several years ago but pick up and love the swype on my android phone......
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I really hope they are not leaving us bloggers behind. It's one of the avenues that attracts users to the platform and as @thejohalfiles said surely there's a way create a synergy between the website and mobile site as FB, twitter or Instagram have. And in doing so offer a home for blogs, videos or just photo uploads. I also agree that there are some brilliant articles here, it's become my go to place for insight on all topics and I think that should be valued and enhanced not sidelined in any way. @ned I hope you can shed some light
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I attempted once to publish my little blog via my phone and, hell no, I'll never do it again. Believe it or not, there is a good bit of researching to be done to produce my little blog, depending upon the word selected, and it is tedious trying to do it on a phone. I can't imagine attempting a more complex blog! Egads! Even curating can involve research and doing so on a mobile device is cumbersome, at best. No thank you. PC/Mac or die for me.
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linux is good too, but yeah I'm not waiting 20 years for phones to catch up and I'm not going the Windows route of dumbing down my platform for the extra users. Desktop OWNS any day. Best platform for CREATION of material or at least reworking producing of content. others are just lame. .
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I couldn't do my report on the phone it would just be impossible, or the Badges.... I would quit and powerdown, thats for sure.
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Yeah I was going to ask can you say how much users are on phone and how much on pc for the authors at least, I doubt that's logged but still it's a good question. The other would be how many votes are bots :D the platform feels like it's dying and all too soon, new people are joining and the old ones are gone, it's like life but you die in your 20's so kids grow up with parents for 7 years and there are no grandparents :D is it time to welcome in the phone mentality with their 3 second attention span. Phone is ok for reading, but overall lacks in everything even reading. It would be nice to make development for Kindle as far as I'm concerned at least people read there and don't just blindly click likes.
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I had no idea this was even a debate. I'm also a pc user and I couldn't imagine formatting an entire steemit post on my phone or tablet. As a matter of fact, I don't think I would. I really hope they don't drop PC support, it would be a huge mistake.
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They would lose the game completely or at least what the starting idea was. No PC no content.
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Don't worry @fyrstikken, by the time they decide to eliminate PC/iMac users, you will have a smart phones with 4K 27" display and voice control ;)
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lol, sounds fun
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lol
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Good post. I think that a lot of people here a using laptops. And most of older users like to actually read. Younger generation can't keep eyes on any thing more than couple of seconds. And in addition to fat fingers a lot of people have also problems with eyes. Steemit on cell- never for me!
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Is this true? I only use a PC, I'm old and can'r see my phone well enough to use it. Do I need to sell off my Steem???
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What was actually said? I can appreciate they need to attract mobile users as many don't use a PC. Steemit needs to be easy to use on both platforms and it's already good on a PC. I've used the new image upload on both and it works fine. It was hard for me to do a post with images on my phone before.
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that is what we are confused about. I can publish the entire interview if it comes to that but I rather have some clear words from @ned then more confusing contradictions from @sneak
Being a friend of Steemit Inc. I want what is best for the platform, so why cannot I send you a Private Message on Steemit for example? And why can you not send me a Private message on Steemit? essential stuff like that.
We want some clarification if we can get it.
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We definitely need messaging. Busy has it, but not on the blockchain. They have to get the right balance of developing things Steemit needs just to work and things that will attract users. Image upload was definitely a good one for the latter
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Yes, we get a drop here and there of fixed UI, but the essentials like Privacy/confidential transactions and messaging are still lacking, and there is no announcement that it is on the todo list.
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Like most things, I just merrily go along and when there's a bump in the road I will either climb it, go around, or turn back. I'm probably one of the very few that only has a phone phone -- and I only use it for calls. I have an iPhone hand-me-down connected to wi-fi only and used for apps. And no other mobile devices. I would be lost if Steemit was not Desktop/Laptop (PC) friendly!
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I'm confused... I thought 2017 was going to be huge for Steemit... How do they do that if they abandon early adopters?...
Feels like doing the same shit and not making changes for the better, just changes for the masses because more people search from their phones than on desktop. Sounds like we need to change being on our phones so damn much. We are getting less information that way.
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Is this seriously a proposition?
I think if pc's were dropped that would be the final nail in the coffin for steemit.
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So, that's the next "short sell" for steemit. Purposely scare off or piss off the PC users that make up 90% of the market. They did it with mining, and consolodated earnings\power to only the linux users\developers, then they did it with witnesses, and consoldated the mining earnings\power to the witnesses (developers and friends), then they allowed bots so they could consolodate voting power\rewards to their early investor accounts, and now this. Openly stating they don't give a shit about pc users will finally drive away the rest of the first adopters that helped make this place grow.
If you step back and look at what really happens in their keyhotee\protoshares\angelshares\graphene\bitsharesX\bitshares projects, it is straight up lying to and robbing early investors of their time and money. Someone should map out the timeline of changes just to show how unchecked greed can centralize and destroy a good decentralized cryptocurrency idea.
What a shame.
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Mobile first development is a common tactic. If you optimize for mobile the beginning, you don't need shoehorn it in at the end.
I don't think that implies there will be no desktop experience. Just that the highest potential for new user interaction will come from mobile users.
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I don't have a phone, well I have one...... in the home....... with a wire on it.
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Those delicious badges tho, mmmm!
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If Steemit.com so far has been created with 0% focus I can't wait to see what 100% is like. :D
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I handkerchief you @fyrstikken. Even Commander Scott, known as Scotty was uncomfortable with the "new" voice-to-text editors, who didn't react. "Computer? Hello, computer?!" And he hacked the hell out of it and created transparent aluminium with the quaint keyboard.
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You sound like you could be the latest disgruntled steemian who hops over to dawn. Now, before you go and call it vaporware, head here.....
http://163.172.170.188:8000/
And tell me again how I can't do it?
:)
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I am not here to "hop over" to anything. I like @steemit. Just confused about the direction.
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Gosh, I liked it, too! Still do in fact.
Pity about design, though.
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lol
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I think the irony that seems to get completely overlooked is that mobile device users may dominate the landscape of the future, but they are mass consumers of high quality content (from recipes to well-researched articles) that were created on devices with real keyboards and large screens.
So unless the roadmap indirectly is suggesting an abandonment of the user-generated content model, perhaps it would be wise to not be too hasty to ignore an entire market segment...
Now if we really want to dig into the nitty gritty of web usage, the fastest growing segment (although still tiny) for accessing the web isn't even mobile devices, but smart TVs... so if we're really "about the future," where does that fit into the plans?
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I think as authors and commenters we should put more effort in linking to sources, at least if we know where the statements were made or from where they were interpreted it would reduce the confusion and speculation =).
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dude when I say something I heard 5 years ago do you think I know a source. Would you source your comments? HOW you are the source, plus cheetah is finding plagiarized translated articles. But I agree half the people don't there seems to be a lot of miscommunication. All because of a lack of clear goals.
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Chill, meant no offense, didn't mean you plagiarized or anything, what i meant is giving some context like you just gave in your reply (e.g. "5 years ago") would be helpful understanding how you came to the conclusion in your post. It helps your readers understand the information you present more easily...that's all
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Yes, i agree, I am chill and still was even then a bit too sleepy is all. :D
Well i do that in my posts and comments normally I link to other material that has taken me to a similar place or idea. Sometimes providing a background.
I agree with you since most people make some post with huge claims and no background.
Anyways I did get triggered yesterday and if you want to see me in my "harsh" light I can link you to the comment :D I was almost flaming at some point :D but that was annoyance gained for hours and pent up bullshit from before.
*Sorry for offtopic, Cheers mate!
Back at your blog to see more, did you use bitcoins :D
Anyways since I'm seeing you just joined in welcome, don't want to spill in bullshit. If you want help, say so. I'm not sure what you like and want so
Good Luck Have Fun :D
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well, wat not :)
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NEO!
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You're not using the tags right, you use "in" and "the" as tags
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I'm not personally worried about my desktops being rendered obsolete by this change. If anything I think it will just make publishing via mobile devices easier, and I would definitely be a fan of that.
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