I have seen a couple of these devices and I can say with certainty they are utter bullshit. There was a lot of interest in the GEET engine from some prominent steemians a few months ago. Someone even went to NH to hang out with a guy claiming he had built such an engine, he hadn't. It is possible to split water into hydrogen with electrolysis but it takes a lot of energy for the amount of gases you get. You can prove the GEET engine is bullshit at home; get an extension cord a Pyrex baking dish and a couple of glass jars and some salt and water. Split the end of the extension cord and strip the ends and put one end in each jar, fill the tray and invert the jars under water so that they are upside down on top of one of the electrodes and full of water. Plug it in, you will see gas starting to come off of each electrode. One will have twice as much as the other, that's the hydrogen. Then see how long that it takes 120 volts to fill a small jar with hydrogen. Way too long to run any sort of engine off of.
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As a lifelong motorsports enthusiast, gear head, mechanic, and internal combustion nutter, I can say with certainty that you are absolutely correct in your assessment that this is "utter bullshit." I won't get into the details, but yeah, you're right. :-P
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If it was possible I would be burning water right now. ;)
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Yes I read up on the issues regarding the energy used being more than the output though there are a few points about how these water powered engines might actually be viable or at least very close to being viable, different points about hitting resonant frequencies of water molecules, how physics change in a vacuum, and even the notion of ambient energy from the atmosphere.... There is so much that mainstream science fails to mention with regards to the electromagnetic nature of the universe, there are some pretty mind-blowing discoveries. The world completely defies physics at the quantum level, makes absolutely no sense to classical physics at all.... It's all energy dude, nothing but.
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What was happening in the video I watched was that the fellow proved that an engine will continue to run for a while, albeit barely, with somewhat watered down gasoline. It died under load. It takes a lot of energy for electrolysis and a lot of energy is lost in the process as heat and so burning the resulting hydrogen will always result in less energy. Its just the law of the conservation of energy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
I felt sort of bad for the GEET engine guy after I watched the video, if you have a video that seems compelling let me have a look at it and I can probably tell you what is going on there.
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Note, his video does not include one running.
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No but there are videos, the emissions are very clean, in fact one video I saw measured the emissions to be cleaner than the air going into the intake. It appears to use considerably less petroleum ect than a normal gas engine. I think you originally meant the hydrogen fuel cells which are different to geet and use electrolysis to separate the hydrogen though it's possible there is a viable way of doing this economically.... Do you think it is possible that oil companies would prevent people from exploring "free" energy alternatives?
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The laws of physics prevent people from creating free energy alternatives. I have studied this GEET engine theory, the exhaust from a lawnmower is just not going to turn anything into plasma and if it did it would not create a strong enough current for electrolysis or to "crack the molecules". That guys molecules were cracked. Think about it, if plasma was splitting molecules into their component atoms why wouldn't the fuel burn up right there? why would it even make it to the combustion chamber? what will happen when you pour cold water in there?
Its a compelling theory because it is sciencey. There are plasma garbage incinerators:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_gasification
They produce little or no excess energy though and the units are massive. The advantage is they allow the incineration of hazardous and other difficult types of waste.
http://www.floridatrend.com/article/7294/incinerating-garbage-the-high-tech-way
If you want a free energy generator build a regular gasifier, you can use pretty much any dry biomass as fuel, wood or coconut husks for example. Its a tried and true technology and you can easily convert an automobile or electric generator. It's "free energy" assuming you can get wood chips or other biomass for free.
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perhaps it doesn't combust before the combustion chamber due to the vacuum, if you heat wood in a vacuum it doesn't combust and at high temperature would also apparently break up into its separate elements. I actually stated in the post that in the eyes of classical physics the process appears impossible, but I will choose to remain open minded with the knowledge that anything that goes contrary to accepted facts within academia is ignored and essentially swept under the rug in favor of dogmatic theories. None of us actually know anything, we think we experience a material world of matter yet the closer we look the more we realise existence takes place in a singular unified field, one immaterial source energy.. It's bizarre.
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the gasifier heats up wood or other material so that it releases its hydrocarbons in an anoxic environment. The laws of physics at least in regards to the GEET engine and "free energy" are fairly straight forward, you can't run a lawnmower or a generator off of water. You can run an engine briefly or poorly on watered down gas. The reason no one is running their car or powering their house with a GEET engine anywhere in the world is that it cannot be done, not as a result of any sort of conspiracy.
Did you read about the plasma waste disposal and how it does not create much if any net energy?
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Plasma gasification
Plasma gasification is an extreme thermal process using plasma which converts organic matter into a syngas (synthesis gas) which is primarily made up of hydrogen and carbon monoxide. A plasma torch powered by an electric arc, is used to ionize gas and catalyze organic matter into syngas with slag remaining as a byproduct. It is used commercially as a form of waste treatment and has been tested for the gasification of municipal solid waste, biomass, industrial waste, hazardous waste, and solid hydrocarbons, such as coal, oil sands, petcoke and oil shale.
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The laws of physics prevent people from creating free energy alternatives. I have studied this GEET engine theory, the exhaust from a lawnmower is just not going to turn anything into plasma and if it did it would not create a strong enough current for electrolysis or to "crack the molecules". That guys molecules were cracked. Think about it, if plasma was splitting molecules into their component atoms why wouldn't the fuel burn up right there? why would it even make it to the combustion chamber? what will happen when you pour cold water in there?
Its a compelling theory because it is sciencey. There are plasma garbage incinerators:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_gasification
They produce little or no excess energy though and the units are massive. The advantage is they allow the incineration of hazardous and other difficult types of waste.
http://www.floridatrend.com/article/7294/incinerating-garbage-the-high-tech-way
If you want a free energy generator build a regular gasifier, you can use pretty much any dry biomass as fuel, wood or coconut husks for example. Its a tried and true technology and you can easily convert an automobile or electric generator. It's "free energy" assuming you can get wood chips or other biomass for free.
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Plasma gasification
Plasma gasification is an extreme thermal process using plasma which converts organic matter into a syngas (synthesis gas) which is primarily made up of hydrogen and carbon monoxide. A plasma torch powered by an electric arc, is used to ionize gas and catalyze organic matter into syngas with slag remaining as a byproduct. It is used commercially as a form of waste treatment and has been tested for the gasification of municipal solid waste, biomass, industrial waste, hazardous waste, and solid hydrocarbons, such as coal, oil sands, petcoke and oil shale.
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Conservation of energy
In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant, it is said to be conserved over time. This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed/transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. If one adds up all the forms of energy that were released in the explosion, such as the kinetic energy of the pieces, as well as heat and sound, one will get the exact decrease of chemical energy in the combustion of the dynamite.
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