For most of my life, I’ve been saying things like “everything you believe is complete bollocks”, and I’ve gotten kind of used to being one of the only ones saying it.
Image - Getty
So this flat earth story is a new experience and I am quite enjoying it. As a child I traveled with my parents on a trip around the globe, I remember looking down out of the plane window as we passed over oceans and ice. And we traveled between places that wouldn’t have worked out so well if the earth was a flat disc.
As a teenager one of the things I studied at university was Geography – admittedly, like all university subjects it glossed over a few things, such as the fact that oil is not actually a fossil fuel, but is abiotic, but that will have to be another post.
http://www.frot.co.nz/design/sift/peak-oil/
But one of the areas that we mostly did cover pretty well in Geography was the physical structure of the planet. There are many millions of planets and one thing they all have in common is that they are all spheres. They are not flat discs like dinner plates.
There is also another theory that the moon is actually a hollow alien made construct like a death-star. Some people say that idea is bollocks, and I agree, but compared to the flat earth story is sounds pretty reasonable.
There is a story that back in the 60’s the Americans sent men to the moon, and that is complete bollocks too, but many people seem to believe it. Not so many in Russia, but it is still a very popular story in America.
Apart from the issue of lots of people having been around the globe in planes, there are also a lot of images taken from the satellites, rockets and space junk that is orbiting around the planet, and although manned rockets have never actually landed on the moon there are no shortage of cameras floating around in the atmosphere.
And what the photos show is a spherical planet just like all of the others. Not a blue and green dinner plane with all the oceans pouring of the edge like a waterfall (or not, as the artist may choose), but a blue and green ball.
When I say the artist, the artist I really mean here is David Dees. I’m a big fan of his work but it has mainly been him that has the brought the flat earth con to my attention. Because he is right into it.
While I think David Dees is perceptive, open-minded, and the real deal, as well as being one of my favourite artists, I think in this case he is unfortunately doing work for the very people he is usually exposing, so what is the real purpose of this flat earth story? Basically to undermine the credibility of a bunch of other conspiracy theories, which unlike the fake mainstream news are actually the true bits.
This “religious” site is a good example, because along with a bunch of crap about flat earth, they also talk about the moon landing being fake - how better to undermine the credibility of a question to the official party line than by linking flat earth theory to fake moon landing?
https://christianflatearthministry.org/2017/11/04/fake-moon-landing/
This pattern of connecting the truth to utter crap has long been one of the favourite tactics of mind control organizations like the CIA.
For once I find myself in full agreement with the majority opinion about something (although I suspect many sheeple may disagree with me about the moon landing being fake), but what the hell, I’m quite enjoying being a conservative, mainstream, old fart on the flat earth issue.
only window lickers think the earth is flat
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Shits Flat brother. Its scary. Did anyof you all know the U.S. IS a CORPORATION??????? YES THAT IS A FACT., Just like Federal Express, a for profit company and you are there bitch. Flat Earth is JUST the tip of the LIES !! Take a look and YES I laughed and thought this was STUPID also, then I looked and life changed EVER SINCE!! For the better!!!
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Yes America is owned by jacob rotchild, chump is a zionist puppet, the moon landing was fake, and nearly everything America does is bullshit.
BUT - most of the globe is not America, and none of this has anything to do with the flat earth story..
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LOL , they are HIDING God! In order for Flat Earth to be real space has to be fake, so the moon landing being Fake makes fake space a POSSIBILITY, CHECK. Zionism (it has been taken over by evil like the U.S. and many other places) = EVIL Against God!
Rothschilds sold their souls I guess or are freaking reptilians idk, but they are part of the story for sure and control the slave population so maybe just useful idiots.
Hey at least you are spending some thought on a flat earth its a start. My one friend who initially thought I lost my mind is really starting to see the evidence for the flat earth PILE UP. Dude is DEEP 6 figures finance and no dummy, he is even dropping all the crummy people who were in his life, he is waking up in front of my eyes. Its happening. everywhere, a MASS Delusion has been uncovered.
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You do world class comments!
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Absolutely correct! The Moon landing is so foolish a 6 year old can see through it- like shadows going in two different directions at once. I have a few debunking videos here at home. The flat earth lunacy... well, what can I say... recreation for the mentally deficient!
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I just made and put out a troll video for debunking flat earth, I am not sure people are getting it- but in my head many times people run to denbunking viseos after someone tells them about flat earth so I decided to put some TRUTH in a debunking video. Its called Flat Earth Debunked! Freaks Failures and Flunkies! (I had to make the title believable haha) tell me what you think if you get a chance . My bro and I spent some time on it, no appreciation lol! EARTH IS FLAT.
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The very fact that it needs to be debunked is a testament to the absolute stupidity of the human species. I could be wrong, but wasn't it debunked over 500 years ago???
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No. It was 500 years ago that LIARS made up a story about someone measurong light down a water well at the same time as someone else and checking.... Only problem, how did they know it was the EXACT same time.
The EARTH is FLAT. We have been lied to on a SCALE that is ALMOST UNIMAGINABLE. Start with easy stuff proven in LAW BOOKS. The U, S. IS a corporation! Read this and then reconsider looking into flat earth. Its noyt my site and just ley me know if you want me to take lkink down and its NO Problem, but this sory ois EVERYWHERE and people are WAKING UP!! I am 47 and DONE with this BULLSHIT, check it out.
Oh and by the way I am retired and comfortable, with passive income so I am not so crazy that I cannot take care of myself I hope EVERYLOOKS and that someone as POWERFUL as YOU SEES that earth is flat and uses their power here to wake people up!!! FYI I laughed and said that is the dumbest thing I ever heard before watching THIS: Eric Dubay History of Flat Earth. PEACE
http://www.annavonreitz.com/nutiscracked.pdf
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Yes the earth must be flat because you have a passive income and America is all bullshit.
What has that got to do with flat earth again?
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Many people say flat earth people all live in their basements, so I am tired of hearing it so I start with it so then I do not have to here it again nevermind, there are thing s that should not be what can I say , that or people are COLLECTIVELY LOSING their minds now or lost them a while ago and are waking up, pretty much no difference someone is confused and just cause it looks like flat earth people are, is not necessarily so. As in the people of north korea of sufficiently brainwashed would think that people in the U.S. are suffering and evil ( not sure if north korea is even real haha)
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Have you just introduced North Korea to this conversation?
Is North Korea flat too?
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Who knows what is REAL? LYING CIA MSM Brainwashing machine mixes truth with lies so we are all mixed up I think. I will REMOVE LINK if you want just let me know. (not my video, just makes me question ALL NK info)
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I'm glad there is someone else who thinks that - we are a cult!
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NASA admits we cannot fly through the dangerous Van Allen belt
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Upvoted
People believe
Chemotherapy and radiation are effective cures for cancer?
Pharmaceuticals restore health?
Vaccination brings immunity?
The cure for cancer is just around the corner?
We don't know what causes Autism?
Or SIDS?
Vaccines are safe and effective?
The FDA thoroughly tests all drugs before they go on the market?
Pediatricians are the most highly trained of all medical specialists?
The purpose of the health care industry is health?
Without vaccines, infectious diseases will return?
Fluoride in the city water protects your teeth?
Flu shots prevent the flu?
Vaccines are thoroughly tested before being placed on the Mandated Schedule?
Doctors are certain that the benefits of vaccines far outweigh any possible risks?
GMO' are safe?
Antibodies determine Immunity?
Serious reactions to vaccines are rare?
Chemtrails are not real?
The earth is flat?
#truthtrain
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I disagree with the conclusion that the flat Earth model is simply bollocks. The real reason the discussion continues is that from on the Earth itself, all the typical proofs that one could possibly use always indicate the Earth model as behaving as flat. If you are willing to believe NASA and the mass media / Hollywood (basically the same thing) then of course the Earth must be round, but these lying pricks have proven themselves over and over as pure disinfo agents.
You are simply making the assumption that the Earth that we are on is just one of the other planets that we see. This is not necessarily the case although this is the story that we are given. This could be true, but we have no way to prove this from on the Earth. In fact, the vast majority of empirical proofs point to a flat Earth conclusion. I could actually write for days on all the reasons I don't trust any Earth model conclusion at this point. Frankly we just don't have a way to know unless you want to trust the NASholes.
If you want to be blown away on any Earth model discussions, you need to have a listen to Jeffrey Grupp. Grupp is incredibly intelligent and used to teach mathematics and the history and philosophy of science at the University of Michigan. He can give you proof after proof as to why the Earth model can't be proven as round from Earth. I highly suggest having a listen to Jeffrey here:
I also suggest you dig into his many insightful and thought provoking videos on the topic at: www.zeteticism.com
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Thanks for that - I'll check it all out - I fully agree that NASA are lying about almost everything, but this flat earth thing, looks like a disinformation campaign to me...
Now I'm not trying to be negative here but that first video is just two guys rabbiting on and chewing the shit for 1:48 - did you really listen to all that?
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If the earth is flat wouldn't cats knock everything off the edge lol ;)
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Actually I did listen to the Grupp interview above some time back, but not recently. If you want really concentrated analysis on various flat earth proofs, there are some better videos for this. I chose the video above specifically because then you get to know what kind of person Grupp is and how intelligent he is. You can see quickly that he's no crackpot and he's no disinformation agent. He's just driven to check the empirical evidence for all of it. I respect this fully with Grupp.
If you want proofs quickly then this video is probably the better one:
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Yes this video and Dave Murphy does very good explanation of general idea, so you have heard it and considered it, no need for me to bother you about it then really. that is all I want people to do is take a look into it, I don't know for sure, I feel like I do but I do not. (Thanks for the upvotes, and please no more , spread them around) I appreciate your thoughts, its fun discussing this stuff.
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Here's more extreme BS from the NASholes:
Magical rover cleanings and incredible rover lifespans:
The blatant recoloring of Mars images:
Looks the same as Devon Island, Canada.. hmm, what a coincidence:
A much longer, detailed video on all the NASA Mars rover BS:
Yeah, I trust these guys fully.. (facepalm)
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But that is the thing - the fact that NASA are lying about all this stuff has nothing to do with flat earth.
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Not true. There is absolutely relevance to their fakery. It means that you can't trust one of the key organizations that supposedly gives you "real" evidence of a round Earth.
Of course it doesn't follow that the Earth is flat automatically because these pricks are fraudulent, but it certainly makes all their Earth model stories incredibly suspect. This includes all their supposed photos of Earth from space which are all photoshopped... and very provably photoshopped I might add.
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This would all be so easy to prove - just film from a plane flying over the edge of the dinner plate, then drop under the dinner plate and film the underneath
Atomic bombs are fake too. But that doesn't make the earth flat...
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Feel free to hire a plane to fly across Antarctica. Just get some damn good insurance and some serious winter survival gear.. ;-)
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It's not me who has something to prove...
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@newsandviews YUP.
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You also might like the Popular Science article on Auguste Piccard and what he saw from the edge of space. Here's a video on it:
Again, I'm not sold one direction or the other at this point, but this is another really interesting story that never gets talked about. Individually, these things don't "prove" anything, but collectively they paint a very interesting picture that we should be paying attention to.
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So are you unsure if you are a flat earther? -I'm not sure if it's necessary to be agnostic about this, it's not that confusing really...
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No, I'm Earth model agnostic, not Earth model confused. It could be the Earth is even way bigger than we are told. It could be that the Earth is a hyper dimensional space. It could be a number of things. The point still is, there are no empirical tests that I have seen done from the surface of the Earth that can prove it's round. No engineering takes into account in their designs that it's round (e.g. tunnels, altimeters, etc.) Even with air refraction, we can see far further than the curvature would ever allow. Then there's other BS given to us to "indicate" a globe model, like aluminum satellites that survive 4,000+ F in the Thermosphere? Liquid fuel engines give thrust without surrounding air pressure? There are a lot of questions, questions, questions. If you can already answer all these open questions with clear proofs then I'll believe whatever model that these proofs point to. It could be shaped like a f'n bunny rabbit for all I care. This is called the scientific method. You follow where the provable evidence leads you, and not what you would like it to be or already assume it to be.
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Doesn't flying all the way around the globe in a plane count? (yes I looked out the window!)
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I'm not looking for interesting stories - just PROOF - which for obvious reasons has never been filmed...
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LOL, I copy pasted wrong video lololollo. sorry about that , you are right, waste of time.
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100% EARTH IS FLAT !! I just made and put out a troll video for debunking flat earth Flat Earth Debunked! Freaks Failures and Flunkies! (I had to make the title believable haha) tell me what you think if you get a chance .
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Thanks for the resteem.
You do realise I'm saying flat earth is bollocks?
I thought you were taking the piss, but you are a real flat earther aren't you?
Holy crap...
Yes, the Vegas shooting was fake too, but that was pretty obvious the day it happened, like 911.
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LOL, I just saw this. You make me laugh. Soon Grasshoppa the earth will flatten before your eyes.....9/11 lol I was DEAD Asleep, so depressing. I can't believe you can be so awake and not see the earth is not some ball .
Check this out. Do you think a book can make itself? No of course not , it cannot make the ink, the paper, the glue,write the story etc etc, any way our DNA is called "the book of life" so did our DNA just write its own book from nothing??? How could it ?? ( Ray Comfort on youtube does street preaching and uses this schitck.) We all know a book cannot write itself so why do so many think we evolved from apes?? Easy, we were told so we believe it. The Bible is so clear about the earth NOT being a ball. I was HARDCORE atheist but you take all the lies, hoaxes, brainwashing , evidence for against, the ball loses in my opinion. Water sticking to a spinning ball is insane. NASA is INSANE. Airplanes flying against the spin of the earth and it not affecting the route time is INSANE, pressure systems existing within vacuums with no solid barrier is INSANE, seeing mountains 150 miles aways is INSANE.
You are now standing with the MAJORITY in believing the ball lie. Good luck with that, I'd rather be a lone "nutcase" you know? PEACE
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Didn't the bible say we are all apes?
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WHAT LOL!!!!! I still have not finished reading the Bible for the first time lol , no but there ARE reptillians OH NO!
I think you did more for Flat Earth movement with your post than I have for the last 10 months haha, THANKS!
I can't wait to me you on the Flat Side,
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Glad to be of service, anyone who reads all this will become a flat earther for sure :)
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It takes a few times to get it through those THICK skulls!
Not you, people in general...
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How the fuck did I miss this? Dammit. Always late to the party. I wanted one of these idiots to tell me how my satellite internet works.
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Take care with that one - satellites are a big can of worms - very big!
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Sir can i resteem your post?
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Yes please! (I bet you say that to all your friends)
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sift- Gravity is NOT PROVEN, Cannot be even described, and rests upon a THEORY. It is CALLED Brainwashing. Moon lnding a joke- The video camara's battteries back then were not even strong enough to send a signal from moon to earth??? think about that.... tons of batteries would be needed. LOL. no Noise, no toilets, no problem
Space is FAKE. Earth is Flat , come and see me or schedule an interview Iam now doing my own Flat earth Shows and am looking for recently enlightened people! Thanks for the post and I resteemed also PEACE and I have ZERO problem with you believing we live on a ball, to each their own.
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I can't help it...
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LOL EXPLAIN GRAVITY-?? (I HATE LYING))
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I was just trying to remember this guy. Didn't he say not long ago that our earth isn't a "perfect" sphere but rather it's "pear" shaped being bigger and fatter below the equator and smaller up here where we are? Now I'm not a FE myself but when these guys come out and say the Earth is now pear shaped WTF starts to flash upstairs you know?
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If we are a flat earth like you say then just what the hell are we? Like one of those Christmas snow domes sitting on some shelf along side many others in some other bigger realm belonging to the 7th grade science class of whatever entities live there? Hmmm, I guess anythings possible right?
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Eric Dubay History of Flat Earth. You are OPEN MINDED. As you know, Don't believe a WORD I SAY, but I beg you to spend a couple of hours and watch Eric's video.
Very insightful regarding a snowglobe and that is EXACTLY what I think we live in and is described in MANY texts including the Bible.
The WTF you mention is your BUILT in God Given BULLSHIT DETECTOR! Congrats to paying attention to it. I only did 12 months ago and my life has turned around.
I lost my love of money and now I LOVE EVERYONE! (I have to admit anyone in gov makes me feel hate so, I just hope they are not truly evil and we can save them from causing others so much pain.
This one really good too.
PEACE and if you watch and still believe we live on a ball than good for you, at least you investigated for YOURSELF!
Much Love! -Dave
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Resteem & upvote done! Please check my blog to verify if the resteem is complete.
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Great post @sift666.
However one thing you have not covered is that the "satelite images" have almost all been edited by nasa or whatever gov op controls the images which everyday people like you and me see of our planet.
Are there really satelites if there are no "real images" of them.
You also can't get reception unless one of these badboys are around:
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Yes that's another really good point.
I suspect that satellites are just another giant con-job and are not really functioning space junk at all.
But like the fake moon landing, fake satellites don't mean the earth is flat! Fake pictures don't mean the earth is flat either, they mean NASA can't actually take real pictures
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Yeah true dat.
I wonder why a multi billion dollar industry can't take pictures 🤔
I definitely wouldn't go on a spaceship, I feel like I would fall into the ocean far enough away for spectators of the launch to not see.
screw nasa, screw people who will call me fake news!
Great post again @sift666
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;-)👍
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is that your thumb?
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RESTEEMED to Raise Flat Earth Awareness!! Thanks!!
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Yes this post should help prove your point :)
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There is something with the moon!
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Yikes does it have to take 2:18? - any one image summaries?
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Yes it is very long, this is only part 1. I think it took ages to collect all this knowledge. This guy got very interesting stuff and connect the English language to other languages and explain the meaning of a lot of words. I am sure you already know a lot of those things, but I think you and others like those videos.
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It doesn't matter to life in a flat or round prison.
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The only thing flat earthers have to fear, is sphere itself.
ba dum tsss.
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Sorry I'm a bit late to the party...
This flat-earth thing. I agree this weakens the position of other 'conspiracy theories' and helps the 'tinfoil hat wearer' labels more sticky.
This is also religious wriggling to make it look like the bible/torah/quran was right all along. Just like crazy Ken Ham who gets all acrobatic and liberal with scientific facts to make the creation and flood story seem plausible.
It's all hilarious.
Learning moment for me: oil is abiotic. Thank you :)
Great, funny post by the way :D
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I might do a post about oil - I've got a web page about it here:
http://www.frot.co.nz/design/sift/peak-oil/
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Ah yes, the 'global warming' narrative. They call it 'climate change' now. Haha. Of course there's climate change; it's always changed, always will.
Oil: I didn't know they were holding out on us to artificially raise prices. Bastards!
Dinosaurs' sacrifice. Haha. Innit funny how they can infuse these 'facts' when we're very little. I believed this all my life. Feel stooopid now. Obviously all dinosaurs were muslims and did that pilgrimage to Mecca. Problem solved.
LOLZ That pic:
obviously contributed to widespread alcoholism.
THAT WAS BRILLIANT!
I'd love to see this as a mini steemit series. It's brilliant. Really. I think I'm fairly well-read and I've never come across this stuff before. I mean: wow! You could include ideas on what we can do about it. So many questions raised... hmm.
PS Rockerfeller: what a minx eh :O
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i knew it all those were lie hahah
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Please tell me you mean flat earth, I'm starting to wonder what half the comments really mean...
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flat earth exists wow finally i can die in peace
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so real
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Like Kermit
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So am i living on a wrong planet huhhhhh
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I haven't really encountered flat earthers before - they have blown my mind!
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Flat earthers be like
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Great blog - too bad I discovered it too late for resteeming, but I can always share it on Twitter!
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good post @sift666 - sorry I didn't see it sooner.
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I just made a video debunking flat earth but it really is trolling people who still believe the LIES!!!!! Earth is Flat come and debate me anyone who wants weeeeeeeeeee
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I admit defeat...
https://www.wikigambar.com/flat-earther-to-launch-himself.html
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I am already resteem your blog sir
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You can question how you think how many people on the planet earth say us much less than they say
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Well that could be profound but I don't fully understand the underlying meaning...
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'there are also a lot of images taken from the satellites, rockets and space junk that is orbiting around the planet, and although manned rockets have never actually landed on the moon there are no shortage of cameras floating around in the atmosphere.
And what the photos show is a spherical planet just like all of the others. '
please find such photos and post them please. no one has managed to find a single real shot yet. they're all composites or artwork, every one. prove me wrong.
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thank for sharing
plise votes back for me
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Yes, when hell freezes over I'll get right on to it...
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