After seeing a youtube video a few months back of a man running an engine using a fuel comprised of 80% water, I got to pondering where this technology is today.
The man was Paul Pantone, the inventor of the GEET engine (Global Environmental Energy Technology). What Paul had created was seemingly an energy efficient way of turning water into fuel and using it to power an engine.
Paul refused to sell the patent for his invention and was then subjected to years battling a corrupt legal system which left him bankrupt. Paul served jail time for missing a court date that his lawyers failed to inform him of and later pleaded guilty to fraud, the plea was overturned when it transpired he had made the plea under duress.
Eventually the court ruled that Paul was literally insane for not accepting such large amounts of money for his patent and for not trusting his attorney,who clearly did not have his best interests at heart. Paul was forcibly admitted to Utah state mental health hospital where he spent three and a half years.
This is a short clip of Paul in an interview some time after his release
Water As Fuel
Paul is not the only person to have patented a water powered engine and there is a long list of inventors who have constructed devices that convert water into fuel, after all water is made of hydrogen and oxygen, hydrogen being a highly flammable gas and oxygen being essential for any fuel to combust, if we separate these elements we have a fuel that can power an engine
Mainstream science states that the process needed to separate these two elements has to use considerably more power than the separated elements could deliver back into the engine system thus rendering the idea void.
However, lets take a look at some of the inventors who say they found a system that did work to deliver a net gain in power, and how they or their inventions met their fate.
- Inventor of the GEET (Global Environmental Energy Technology) engine that ran on 80% water
- Refused to sell patent for the invention
- Taken to court accused of fraud
- Betrayed by his lawyers
- Bankrupted himself in the legal battle
- Pleaded guilty to fraud but the plea was later overturned when Paul admitted it was made under duress
- Sectioned into a mental health hospital by the courts on account he was insane to turn down such huge sums of money for his patent and for the fact he didn't trust his lawyers
Herman Anderson
- Ex-NASA scientist
- Worked on hydrogen powered rockets
- Invented a car powered by water
- Banned from manufacture and sale of his water powered engine on account of "excess radiation" but was allowed to continue driving his own water powered car (the car apparently emitted no more radiation than the average pickup truck)
Steven Ryan
- New Zealand inventor featured his water powered motor bike on a TV show called "60 minutes" in 1995
- Steven went quiet after the airing of the show and later released a statement saying "due to political and economical reasons" he would discontinue work on the water powered engine.
- Followed tutorials on how to build a water powered engine
- Successfully ran his truck on water
- Was threatened by two men armed with pistols to stop his work on any form of alternative energy and told to destroy his work
Eugine Mallove
- Founder and editor of "unlimited energy" magazine
- Well respected in the field of alternative energies and a leading scientist in cold fusion
- Outspoken about the power of Government suppressing alternative energy discoveries
- Discovered "table top cold fusion" or "star energy" (one argument against water powered vehicles is they would need to recreate the energy found in the forming of stars which is impossible on such a small scale, Mallove recreated this "cold fusion" with small apparatus on his table)
- Was brutally murdered in 2004
Stan Myer
- Appeared on local news with a water only powered dune buggy
- Offered $250,000,000 by Arabs to discontinue work on his invention
- Gained interest from the military in his invention
- Died during a meeting with two prospective investers
- His postmortem declared he died of a brain hemorrhage, his twin brother who was at the meeting reported that Stan clutched his neck after taking a sip of cranberry juice and ran outside, his last words were "they poisoned me"
Yull Brown
- Devised an invention to turn water into fuel
- Refused to sell patent to American oil giants
- Subject to attempted murder after shots were fired into his house
- Reported to have died of diabetes just 3 months after the death of Stan Myer
Andrija Puharich
- Well connected to the elite
- Patented a water fuel cell to power an engine on water
- Asked personally by the Rockerfella family to discontinue any work on water powered engines
- Official report states he died of a heart attack and fell down the stairs
This list goes on and every inventor who has patented or claimed to find a water based hydrogen fuel alternative to diesel or petroleum appears to have been shut down.
At least 70% of the oil industries profits arise from fuel for transport, if our cars and jets and boats all ran on water from the nearest water source then oil giants would lose A LOT of money.
Paul Pantone sadly passed away in 2015, before his death he made his engine designs publicly available and free to copy under the condition the engines were not made to be sold and did not exceed a certain size, there are many people who have copied the design and claimed the engine does indeed work.
I have seen a couple of these devices and I can say with certainty they are utter bullshit. There was a lot of interest in the GEET engine from some prominent steemians a few months ago. Someone even went to NH to hang out with a guy claiming he had built such an engine, he hadn't. It is possible to split water into hydrogen with electrolysis but it takes a lot of energy for the amount of gases you get. You can prove the GEET engine is bullshit at home; get an extension cord a Pyrex baking dish and a couple of glass jars and some salt and water. Split the end of the extension cord and strip the ends and put one end in each jar, fill the tray and invert the jars under water so that they are upside down on top of one of the electrodes and full of water. Plug it in, you will see gas starting to come off of each electrode. One will have twice as much as the other, that's the hydrogen. Then see how long that it takes 120 volts to fill a small jar with hydrogen. Way too long to run any sort of engine off of.
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As a lifelong motorsports enthusiast, gear head, mechanic, and internal combustion nutter, I can say with certainty that you are absolutely correct in your assessment that this is "utter bullshit." I won't get into the details, but yeah, you're right. :-P
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If it was possible I would be burning water right now. ;)
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Yes I read up on the issues regarding the energy used being more than the output though there are a few points about how these water powered engines might actually be viable or at least very close to being viable, different points about hitting resonant frequencies of water molecules, how physics change in a vacuum, and even the notion of ambient energy from the atmosphere.... There is so much that mainstream science fails to mention with regards to the electromagnetic nature of the universe, there are some pretty mind-blowing discoveries. The world completely defies physics at the quantum level, makes absolutely no sense to classical physics at all.... It's all energy dude, nothing but.
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What was happening in the video I watched was that the fellow proved that an engine will continue to run for a while, albeit barely, with somewhat watered down gasoline. It died under load. It takes a lot of energy for electrolysis and a lot of energy is lost in the process as heat and so burning the resulting hydrogen will always result in less energy. Its just the law of the conservation of energy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
I felt sort of bad for the GEET engine guy after I watched the video, if you have a video that seems compelling let me have a look at it and I can probably tell you what is going on there.
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Note, his video does not include one running.
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No but there are videos, the emissions are very clean, in fact one video I saw measured the emissions to be cleaner than the air going into the intake. It appears to use considerably less petroleum ect than a normal gas engine. I think you originally meant the hydrogen fuel cells which are different to geet and use electrolysis to separate the hydrogen though it's possible there is a viable way of doing this economically.... Do you think it is possible that oil companies would prevent people from exploring "free" energy alternatives?
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The laws of physics prevent people from creating free energy alternatives. I have studied this GEET engine theory, the exhaust from a lawnmower is just not going to turn anything into plasma and if it did it would not create a strong enough current for electrolysis or to "crack the molecules". That guys molecules were cracked. Think about it, if plasma was splitting molecules into their component atoms why wouldn't the fuel burn up right there? why would it even make it to the combustion chamber? what will happen when you pour cold water in there?
Its a compelling theory because it is sciencey. There are plasma garbage incinerators:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_gasification
They produce little or no excess energy though and the units are massive. The advantage is they allow the incineration of hazardous and other difficult types of waste.
http://www.floridatrend.com/article/7294/incinerating-garbage-the-high-tech-way
If you want a free energy generator build a regular gasifier, you can use pretty much any dry biomass as fuel, wood or coconut husks for example. Its a tried and true technology and you can easily convert an automobile or electric generator. It's "free energy" assuming you can get wood chips or other biomass for free.
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perhaps it doesn't combust before the combustion chamber due to the vacuum, if you heat wood in a vacuum it doesn't combust and at high temperature would also apparently break up into its separate elements. I actually stated in the post that in the eyes of classical physics the process appears impossible, but I will choose to remain open minded with the knowledge that anything that goes contrary to accepted facts within academia is ignored and essentially swept under the rug in favor of dogmatic theories. None of us actually know anything, we think we experience a material world of matter yet the closer we look the more we realise existence takes place in a singular unified field, one immaterial source energy.. It's bizarre.
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Plasma gasification
Plasma gasification is an extreme thermal process using plasma which converts organic matter into a syngas (synthesis gas) which is primarily made up of hydrogen and carbon monoxide. A plasma torch powered by an electric arc, is used to ionize gas and catalyze organic matter into syngas with slag remaining as a byproduct. It is used commercially as a form of waste treatment and has been tested for the gasification of municipal solid waste, biomass, industrial waste, hazardous waste, and solid hydrocarbons, such as coal, oil sands, petcoke and oil shale.
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The laws of physics prevent people from creating free energy alternatives. I have studied this GEET engine theory, the exhaust from a lawnmower is just not going to turn anything into plasma and if it did it would not create a strong enough current for electrolysis or to "crack the molecules". That guys molecules were cracked. Think about it, if plasma was splitting molecules into their component atoms why wouldn't the fuel burn up right there? why would it even make it to the combustion chamber? what will happen when you pour cold water in there?
Its a compelling theory because it is sciencey. There are plasma garbage incinerators:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_gasification
They produce little or no excess energy though and the units are massive. The advantage is they allow the incineration of hazardous and other difficult types of waste.
http://www.floridatrend.com/article/7294/incinerating-garbage-the-high-tech-way
If you want a free energy generator build a regular gasifier, you can use pretty much any dry biomass as fuel, wood or coconut husks for example. Its a tried and true technology and you can easily convert an automobile or electric generator. It's "free energy" assuming you can get wood chips or other biomass for free.
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Plasma gasification
Plasma gasification is an extreme thermal process using plasma which converts organic matter into a syngas (synthesis gas) which is primarily made up of hydrogen and carbon monoxide. A plasma torch powered by an electric arc, is used to ionize gas and catalyze organic matter into syngas with slag remaining as a byproduct. It is used commercially as a form of waste treatment and has been tested for the gasification of municipal solid waste, biomass, industrial waste, hazardous waste, and solid hydrocarbons, such as coal, oil sands, petcoke and oil shale.
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Conservation of energy
In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant, it is said to be conserved over time. This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed/transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. If one adds up all the forms of energy that were released in the explosion, such as the kinetic energy of the pieces, as well as heat and sound, one will get the exact decrease of chemical energy in the combustion of the dynamite.
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I know this stuff happens to shut down this work as a friend of our family had the nock on the door to stop what he was doing with water powered engines.
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That is fascinating, was it something they had put a lot of work into?
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Yes he and his friend worked on it together for some years.
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Damn! This looks great. Sorry I am four days late to get to it. Apparently steemit.chat no longer works for me. No idea why. Are you on Discord?
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Yeah I'm on discord occasionally. No need to upvote on my comments man. Thanks Sam, and keep it unreal!
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