WARNING!! Beware of Flat Earth Society ... We have followers all around the globe!!

in conspiracy •  7 years ago  (edited)

I have been getting a lot of people sharing with me flat earth videos lately and have actually dived myself into a video spree of people trying to prove that the earth is flat.  

This actually makes my brain hurt!! why????

Because these people are serious.  Serious enough that I have to ask all you flat earth believers a few questions.

I am not a scientist,  I have never seen the earth from space,  but I'm just gonna try and cover what I believe is a little common sense if you will to ask these questions.  

Water??

Does water not always finds its level.  Be it a glass of water or pool of water, teaspoon, puddle yada.    You say the earth is flat, but its clearly not flat with mountains and hills  and canyons, which may fill up with water and then level off. 

 Water  can't bend? Stick your finger into a water glass, and the water bends  out of the way of your finger. It's a fluid, it has almost no rigidity. The Earth is spherical,  and since it's  big and  heavy, it has a substantial gravitational field. Gravity pulls things  towards the center of the Earth. Water doesn't try to be "flat on top", it's just flowing towards the  center of the Earth, and is stopped by whatever is in the way, your  drinking glass, or the rocky bottom of the ocean. Since every particle  of water is pulled towards the center of the Earth, the top layer,  surface is smooth, and when viewed on a large scale, bent into a sphere.
 

The earth is large.   Its quite big really especially compared to YOU and your site perspectives.  It seems strange to me that you would think you would see any curvature of the earth when looking at the horizon from your small perspective.   The horizon always rises to your eye level, this is from the ground a mountain top a tower a plane.

The Photoshop Earth??

I hear a lot about the earth being photoshopped and even if that was true, does that actually prove the earth is flat?

Lets say they are photoshop edited, that does not imply deceit considering photos are enhanced all the time, with contrast, hue or saturation.   Even if a few extra clouds where added this does not all the sudden mean the earth is flat.  

When you take a panoramic photo, all it is, is several images being stitched together, the same is happening with Nasa's photos of the earth from near earth orbit.  Edits can actually be made to give a more accurate representation of what something would look like to the human eye.  

I will say that, even though I believe its highly unlikey it is possibly that these images are completely fake, but this still doesnt prove in any way that the earth is flat.  

Curvature and Skyline from a distance??

So another thing that keeps getting brought up with flat earthers, that I think has become a big tool in bringing on followers is being able to see land marks where they believe they should not because of earth curvature.  

Example:

Toronto from Niagra on the Lake 31 miles away

Chicago from union peer 43 miles away

Oahu from Kauai 108 miles from center to center or 73 miles from the closest point

They say you will not see any curvature where its suppose to be, but one major major HUGe common sense thing that pops into my head is, the Elevation of YOU the observer.   Are you accounting for the observers elevation and level.  

Movement Rotation Gravity??


Okay so in this some of your arguments seem to be very convincing if you actually believe the laws of motion are NOT REAL and Isaac newtons is just speculating.  Einstein theories are still today in everyday ACTIVE life still logically sound, are they not? Tested thousands of times by thousands of people all over the "globe" and proven to be true.  Einstein is not just one of the most noted names in science for no reason, the man got it RIGHT. 

The Sun is not 93 million miles away because of close range light rays?

Okay what!  are you not accounting for perspective again and light reflection.  Look down a long straight road it seems to become smaller and come to one point.  Perspective can make something seem closer, smaller, larger scewed! But we know this,  Okay seriously brain hurt here!  Im sorry guys but on this one I just have to laugh at again what seems to be a very common sense perspective issue, and to discount this reality we live with every day is just absolute nonsense.   

 The entire idea of days, nights and how long they last only works if the  Earth is round. If the Earth were flat and one person could see the  Sun, then literally everyone on the whole planet could also see it. 



so you think its all faked!  They are keeping the truth from us!  They??? for?????

cause who benefits from a flat earth??

You cant just discount everything from Nasa, and ancient history, and airlines, and all the visual multi media evidence.  I mean you can!   But... come on are we entering into idiocracy here.   






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I have the perfect meme to prove the flat-earthers wrong!
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they surely would!

lol

Now THIS, this I'm stealing. Sorry, permission or not, I'm stealing it...

Go ahead, you are welcome!

Why these people exist is unfathomable to me.

It's one thing to think the Earth is 6000 years old (I mean that's preposterous too, but at least I can get that people are small minded) But to think the Earth is flat, is beyond ridiculous. We settled this... a LONG time ago. Let it go man... Let it go.

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The earth is flat? OK.
How's the album doing???

lol exactly !! had to scratch an itch here, cant believe its an issue out there in this age. album is coming along lol no songs about flat earth i promise....although maybe metaphorically patronizing lyrics

you had a laugh i assume, i was ;)

If you've ever been up to 35-40 thousand feet in a plane, you'd know that the earth is not flat. You can start to see the curvature of the earth from that height. at 40-50 thousand feet, it becomes fairly obvious.

I fly all the time for myself I have had many times where it seems you can see the curvature I have also been to places on the ocean at night were looking out with the moon in the right place it seems you can see the curve as well. this doesnt seem to be convincing to flat earthers

It's hard to convince anybody of anything when they're unwilling to look at the evidence...

sure you can. Why do we never see the videos of Nasa rockets leaving our atmosphere as they enter the vacuum of space? I would like to see that impossible transition. If the atmosphere protects us from the danger of spaces vacuum, then how do the rockets just fly right through. we should be seeing tons of insane pictures as well as videos daily.

Actually, there are a lot of older NASA launch videos that show the transition into orbit. I'm sure that you could find some of them by using google. The Apollo launches had cameras between the booster stages to film the separation of the stages, and there are othe videos.

I posted about this too. It's an argument that was settled hundreds of years ago, long before space travel or even an understanding of gravity. Let's just move on

Space travel...blah ha ha...

It's great isn't it?

One hearthy upvote from me. It hurts my brain thinking about people actually believing in things like this, but I've given up writing this type of posts. They'll just ignore what's right in their face anyway, or else come up with yet some other ridiculous argument which will take forever to debunk, even though it is commonsense.

Really, love it. Keep on posting these kind of things,.

thanks my friend! I have a few friends who are now arguing for it and that was enough for me, had to jump in with something.

Sometimes I can't help myself. I just came up with a great argument which could be tried with a flat earth believer.

1 Ask them whether they acknowledge the existence of the Arctic region. (With no reference being made to a Pole, just an icy region on this earth, flat or round, which is known as the Arctic.

They will confirm that hey do. (If they do not, you are in over your head)

2: repeat this for the Antarctic

3: Ask them to confirm that they agree that this are two distinct regions.

You now have confirmation that in their worldview, they have an earth, which contains two distinct icy regions.

If the earth if flat there should be straight lines starting from each icy region, which do not traverse the other one. SO you could leave the south pole, and keep on walking in a straight ine and never encounter the North pole.

If However it is impossible, and any straight line beginning in the centre of the Antartic will end up in the center of the Arctic, than you have yourself a round earth...

This could even be verified experimentally quite quickly and relatively cheaply by them ;)

I tried this. They said that the antarctic is the "Ice wall" that keeps the sea in. Which is also apparently guarded by the US government, and we never hear about it because anyone who sees them is immediately killed. They stated that this was the reason the Titanic was sunk, despite being the wrong pole.

My favorite argument is, if there is no gravity and no electromagnetism, explain how a compass works in 500 words or less, without referencing God, the bible, or the word conspiracy.

Who's ignoring what? How can you ridicule someone for having an opinion that differs from yours on something that you've never seen and can't prove yourself? How many lies will you accept from Nasa and the Government. Nasa expose themselves daily, they can't even keep their own lies straight. If your brain hurts from thinking then it needs more exercise. Don't just accept everything as a fact without any proof (photo shopped images and toy model globes are not proofs), do some independent thinking and question anything that doesn't seem or feel right. In my opinion the earth is flat until proven differently and i won't accept math in place of proof as truth! We can get a robot to wander mars but can' t have it turn around to get some real photos on its way outta town?

It's strange that somehow people continue to call established falsifiable scientific fact an "opinion", as if that all of a sudden equalizes it with whatever someone else dreams up...

Here you have a video of a fairing from a rocket falling down to earth. It serves all the purposes you ask for when you write: We can get a robot to wander mars but can' t have it turn around to get some real photos on its way outta town?

https://www.google.be/search?q=spacex+picture+from+fairing&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjf_-uWnb3UAhXCLMAKHUG1AbwQ_AUICCgD&biw=1280&bih=870&dpr=1

Also I'd like to know the following. If our earth is flat, what kind of shape is it? Square, Triangular, Circular? Or perhaps were living on the bottom side of a cylinder? Where are the edges, do we fall off, or will we encounter a wall,...

I have no idea what the shape is but i'm pretty sure what it isn't. With the billions they take in annually, I dont think its asking too much of NASA to be honest and actually show real photos and videos that are complete without always cutting away for whatever the reasons. Why would they need video game animators brought in for anything. We have cameras that can get some pretty good close-ups of the moon zooming in and out, so i would think they should have the ability and better technology to do the same or better with the earth. Its unimpressive videos like the one you had me watch that make me question everything. Why is it that people who ask questions or have doubts are automatically idiots for not just believing everything that they are told and why do others get so upset just because people have their own opinions?

I want to spend all 40 of my daily upvotes for today on this. Seriously.
It actually kind of pisses me off that this is being taken seriously by anyone at all. It's a sign of going backwards.

It's hilarious and yet scary that in the information era instead of deepening our knowledge we occupy ourself with funny pictures of cats, conspiration theories and dumb sitcoms. The information is flooding and people cannot tell anymore what is true and what is not. And such groups as flat-earthers, anti-vacciners proliferate.

I agree with this 100% people just dont know what to believe anymore and you have young fragile minds out there easily confused, we are in for some interesting times in the future, with all the changes and things going on, who knows how we are gonna break through this new era of ...to much information?

That I had to read a post about flat earthers in 2017 makes me a little sad today.

: )

lol

It is due to the large radius of the earth.

Sheesh, you humanoids really need to evolve. You're just not thinking 5-dimensionally about this, of course 3-d collapses to 2-d.

What was 5, is 2. What was 2, is 1. And what was 1...is nothing.

lol!

@soundlegion you rock my flat world. Flat on and steem on! @ironshield