@herrleeb- The thing is when you say nothing makes any sense you lose me. I KNOW water does not stick to spinning balls here on earth. I KNOW that vacuums need a barrier to hold different pressure systems. I know you can see chicago from across lake michigan and that on a ball earth the size stated that should be imposssible. I KNOW NASA lies. and on and on. Those ideas make sense, they may end up being proven incorrect but right now the evidence is very very strong that those ideas are correct, just like we KNOW if we jump out of a 10 story building we will be lucky to live, very lucky!
Not trying to be a dick, do you think it could be cognitive dissonance that you are experiencing? My friend now agrees with some of the crazy stuff I say but he also tells me he will not tell ANYONE and that he thinks it may be healthy to know this EVEN IF it is true. I understand his thoughts as far as believing these things seems to isolate a person but for me ignoring what I process as truth is bothersome, kinda like when I do something morally wrong like lying and it bothers me as I do it (I try not to lol).
What I am trying to communicate is that the true shape or nature of the earth might be something ENTIRELY different, something we have not even thought about yet. All we have are theories at this point and jumping to premature conclusions or assumptions is dangerous. It exposes us to ridicule and disbelief. It pushes us into the corner of "conspiracy nuts".
Maybe I can give you a visual idea of how I believe different perspectives can distort our perception of reality. In the image below the assumption of the observer about the true nature of an object is deceptively faulty. Nothing is what it appears to be at first sight. Or second :)
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On a simple level, water in a bathtub is ALWAYS flat. Maybe in another dimension it curves but in OUR reality it is FLAT. You ignored my point of jumping out of a window at 10 stories. If death was not a FACT that will more than likely result than people would be testing it out all the time. We have to be able to accept that which we experience and can TEST or we cannot accept ANYTHING at which point you cannot function.
The fact is saying that object is a triangle or a square or a circular object are all part of the TRUTH, maybe not 100% but much better than rejecting everything outright because it may not be 100% truth.
I am really not trying to be an asshole, I just feel that by treating everything as a theory leaves you with no ability to believe ANYTHING you see, touch, feel, or taste even though that is directly what you experience.
Maybe where we disagree is I am open to being wrong about my evidence based beliefs while basing my actions on those beliefs. Idk, somehow we are talking past each other I feel.
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Yeah, we are talking past each other. I do not disagree with you at all, about any of the facts. I simply arrive at a different conclusion which is: Whatever we are being told by the cabal is wrong. There is plenty of evidence suggesting that the shape of the earth and nature of the universe IS DIFFERENT THAN WE ARE MADE TO BELIEVE. I just refuse to make the call that it must be flat as only possible answer. If I am not a christian it does not mean that I am a muslim or whatever. I just don't buy into the restraints of "if it is not white, it must be black". It could be something outside our comprehension.
To clarify: Our perception of reality is dependent on our senses. A human, a bat and a microbe share the same environment but perceive it differently. How would we judge the world if humanity would not have VISION. we would come to a different conclusion. And we know we can see only a certain spectrum of light. So, what if we HAD an additional sense like a bat? Or 2? Or many? Reality could appear completely different. How would an ant judge the universe? Who says that we are the end of all and there is nothing outside our perception?
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That helped me get your point of view better, thanks for being patient. I think my brother sees things the same as you, maybe he won't trigger me as much now lol.
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LOL. That would make my day if could help a bit. We are all looking for what's real or not. Many of our "arguments" are mostly because of the difficulties to verbalize our ideas and communicate them properly and make assumptions about what the opponent is trying to say. Whatever we read, we hear in our own voice in our heads and I am also guilty to sometimes not reading or listening carefully enough while I am already preparing an answer to what I think the other one is going to say. Or as Allan Greenspan (of all people) once said:
I know you understand what you think I said, I doubt you heard what I meant...
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