RE: [WARNING] Stewart Dennis (BitBounce/Credo) wants to scam me for my 4 monthly earnings

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[WARNING] Stewart Dennis (BitBounce/Credo) wants to scam me for my 4 monthly earnings

in cryptocurrency •  7 years ago 

Hello, Stewart here. I've become increasingly convinced that the people making this complaint are attempting to scam us. I am concerned that you do have the tokens we sent out and that you are trying to get double the number of tokens you should be sent.

Also, we made it very clear that we would be using an ICO token in our terms and conditions, so this isn't something we announced after the sale started.

We could be misstaken in our assessment that this is a scam. Please send me and the team more information about this. Specifically, I'd like clear technical evidence that etherdelta users do not possess the tokens. I will need to consult with experts on this, so this issue would probably not be resolved until after the ICO.

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I'm bored of repeating that again and again.
Here is my address: 0xA87fB81CDC6dfa965Bf8b7F43219BCc326A74Cfb
There are no incoming or outcoming transactions of new Credo tokens, because I did not receive them.
There are only old ones.
You sent them to etherdelta instead of to us.
There is no possibility to hide them or something, etherscan shows everything.

In terms and conditions there is a statement:
"Sending Ether to the Credos Token Address during the Sale Period triggers a smart contract operation, pursuant to which the Smart Contract System will automatically create and promptly deliver a Credo ICO token to the ERC20 wallet address from which the Ether were sent. "

It clearly says that tokens should be delievered to the wallet address from which ethereum was sent.
They were not.

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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Hello! Thank you for your reply. I can assure you that I don't have any of the new tokens. I have all of the old ones in my etherdelta wallet. If you'd like to see them on my normal address (the one you sent me "Credo ICO Token") I can transfer them immediately.
I don't know how it looks on Etherdelta side. I hope that if they could they would transfer them to me.
I just want you to get involved. I have put a lot of eth in your project (my 4 monthly earnings) and that's why I needed to do this post.
Please involve more technical advisors because all the evidence needed is out there on etherscan.

That's all I have now

And nothing here:

My etherdelta address: 0x0eEDdf4cC1aBD64dE929612737f587a7612008fF
Address where you sent me credo ico token: 0x587D7e2Dc8dD887e08903056c219B8E172Dd9eaB

If you need anything else just ask.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x3acf8f0d374e5101932757ef9b5a75d3c9b181a45f51b50e216d5aedea6a2638
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x4eda0f42d494913d41de6812560e61d455335f462bf0a102c678737c48636410

I'm glad you admited that you are NOT an expert. Indeed, everyone that has some crypto knowledge knows that ETH blockchain is fully transparent AND EtherDelta is an exchange being OPEN SOURCE. So EVERYBODY can anytime check and verify this problem. You act like a scammer be responding this way, sorry. You didn't provide any evidence and you accuse...? Oh my God, just simply ask somebody qualified for help.

I am an expert on some matters in crypto/blockchain, but we'd need to audit and do due-diligence on EtherDelta's code to ensure there is no way to recover the tokens.

There's a rumor that you have own private spreadsheet with affected people.

I have my own spreadsheet which for now is unfinished but it's listing affected people by issue where you sent their Credo tokens to ED wallet and not to their wallets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XiUctMnggV1BInVKERmOnFqYzbkWUenRcRjPcmv5_lw/edit?usp=sharing

That's great work! My address is correct and this is my etherdelta adress. I'm really happy that you tracked everything down although I'm the one with the biggest loss...
@stewartdennis Use his spreadsheet

I doubt in your level of knowledge of the crypto/blockchain. In couple of hours we did better analysis than you did in few weeks.
Also you are poor PR guy. You could make some progress in this, keep our messages and our account active in your Facebook and Slack services and now you have a group of eager people making you a free commercial on social network. Did you already notice that in this and every other thread there's your name next to it? This is not only a issue with Credo. Credo maybe will stand or will fall but Google will index all these threads and with your name on it. Maybe in few years you'll start a new project, people will start googling your name and I'm curious if all these threads about missing Credo token will be. Maybe first page and even top results.

Good for you sir!

Let me help you with your investigations:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x4e0603e2a27a30480e5e3a4fe548e29ef12f64be?a=0x8d12a197cb00d4747a1fe03395095ce2a5cc6819
Like I said in one of previous comments this is EtherDelta deposit address.
Open this in your web browser.
Then press ctrl+f to search for string "0x281a867c7c3a"
It's a first few characters from YOUR address from which you sent Credo tokens.
There are only 5 wrong transactions with total sum of 23 716,72 Credo tokens. Let me do the math: It's something little bit more than 6 Eth.

Edit:
Do you want whole list of wrong transactions?
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x11cb402ee9213c97861d502d618813da94048b79676282a50a7a4464709a6dc1 https://etherscan.io/tx/0xd4f3216335f9800ee257ed7af6955caa439c3118ea2b775d9accfbdedc8b6167 https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8c7d0a313e79b81ef093581a40ae652bd6d71eb73c5a042a85ce706ca42ee279 https://etherscan.io/tx/0x255bd0a1febffe3632413a2581c6c47b67961c9aec4a7615a28af01a1a7ae6a0 https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8a96901134dd75dc54f5cdbf5ae76d0aaf050a81109f6f8bcf8aed2c716568ad

Edit 2; Talked with the people and there are saying that their missing tokens are not on the 5 transactions list. So this list can be incomplete and I don't know why. Maybe to these people (or rather ED) you don't event sent Credos.

Edit 3:
Damn from how many addresses you are sending Credos? Two?
https://etherscan.io/token/0x4e0603e2a27a30480e5e3a4fe548e29ef12f64be?a=0x25ca1529e389b2ac8ddf61431704e836f17b55be
https://etherscan.io/token/0x4e0603e2a27a30480e5e3a4fe548e29ef12f64be?a=0x281a867c7c3a7d8ddc2498b6584b12828ccd44cb
?