In terms of determination, to be honest, I'm not gonna lie, I thought "1617" would be better "sounding" than "1619" for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project from https://www.NYTimes.com/column/1619-project, in terms of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns#:~:text=known%20unknowns "known unknowns". (Plus https://www.WolframAlpha.com/input?i=%7E, a decent range helps, add some open-minded https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approximation [if a math sign {Math_Sign_Slogan} was worded/called "open-minded", it would be a "~" {about sign} or "∫ {integral sign}"?] ~pending to be safer.)

And there (if not further there, our spaceships going to the Moon are the first time we know exactly what second we all landed), just there (n' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_There... because because, because, good you asked), I balanced Donald Rumsfeld and Nikole Hannah-Jones together (karmatic ying/yang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang Rep/Dem emotional work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_work example, maybe me balancing Republican/Democrat again, my behavior because of my politically-polarized parents [1 Dem vs 1 Rep, me picking parentsides, coining now also as parentside, pause the beat I will drop the mic later] who just cancelled eachother when voting), can anyone beat that Csychology/Psychology Wath/Math logic, huh?

Besides the 1619 and 1617 are otherwise triggering differently (just in my opinion?)?, and that definitely sometimes will matter. I do not want the United States founded in, ahem, 1666 (even if we prove it, same for 1444, that's too triggering, I/we will not hear it), urm, I think that would be too, too much, but 1618 I could understand being a compromise to avoid nuclear war, if we must hermenuetically (who wants to call hermenuetiscientifically a word yet?) decide what decides.

In principle, I think (& when I wrote https://iSew.info/2014/04/12/maybe-foundation-maybe-creative && http://web.archive.org/web/1/https://iSew.info/2014/04/12/maybe-foundation-maybe-creative in stylized vocabulary) society must be open to multiple story sources. Er,—or else. (I wrote alot, earlier, before Internet, often on the sides and back of classwork paper and in Directory Structures/Folder Titles, takes work getting back to speed, in WordPress of all places, G-d damn WordPress. I never say/blog "damn", but I mean it about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress, a full "G-d damn WordPress", and I will swear to the record there.)

And reasonably, there is something to be said about proving what happened before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping blockchaining set record-keeping standards, I am willing to hear that being a "founder" (or "founders") does not mean having the last/final word (https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/have+the+last+word).

May be serious, as much as funny, for some to think about as an example, for History and Herstory n' Hirstory too, that what marketing studies commonly suggest, is that that matters too.

I mean, "to round" (math) and "be well-rounded" (language/literacy), are often met with similar social calculations. I would not blame anyone for suggesting a scientific possibility it was not just 1619 but also 1617 maybe too, bringing rationalist https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bayesian reasoning as our Google-PageRank-friendly (multiple results, statistically identified plausibilities, underlying err undertruthing or underwise, er, overwise maybe an "A/B question") scientific style.

Oh, and I put each ampersand variation, "n'", "&" (and https://serverfault.com/questions/53577/linux-bash-syntax-meaning-of-and "&&"), and "and", because I am open to questioning which was amperfirst err ampersecond.

If you hear me o' if you know what I mean, I am happy if we can agree it was generally between 1600 and 1800, so is that so-so, hear hear? (I meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear in case you did not hear the first time I said hear, might help to verbally repeat verbally. Given human memory is as feeble as societal memory, id argue rather "https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/so-so", is it much to ask that society acknowledges ``Social-Memory Issues`` might be relevant foundational questions, worth recording equally, worth recording too?

...Okay, we got to, um, let me doublecheck, ten (10) paragraphs (Edit: After editing, checking again, still 5+5 par), okay I triplechecked, just to be normal sounding okay, because then, phew, we're Thank G-d not "odd" (coining), that would be soo weird, so now we're Thank G-d "even" (coined)? :/ Oh, and I avoid making emoticons/emoji so I focus/speak English vocabulary words, but I will reserve my (I coined originally? Nobody ever made it first? Never ever did a mathematician make an integral face? After we decide who invented the Telegraph, preferably/ideally/exceptionally we wait after we https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_control all of reality, and all our chats and paperwork, well a textsingularity (text-only singularity, coined now, dropping my mic now) is realisticer than a singularity) rare integral sign face (inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_symbol, type Unicode_Compose_Key U-222B [the 2s x 3 are part of the Official Unicode keysign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters, idea not mine]) to show how I changed facial expression while writing and editing. :/ :∫ Read my integral sign. :| =∫ Oh and, okay, soooooooooo with ten (10) Os, is not as we._rd, so we're straight? Also, I remember where I was when I first learned it is not spelled "OK"——I was floored (for real, grinds my keys, flashbacks, 2nd grade, keyed in, hear my teacher spell "O, K, A, Y", I'm sitting middle of the classroom, shocked, stunned, damn that throws me back, I bowed my head, could not believe, life changing, I could never repeat "OK" again, just "Okay"? I wanted to ask why it still sounds like "O, K" when spoken, but I did not have the heart to speak, just not ok.), why "ay" and not "ey" to make "key", okey, I mean, this not that if thlog r threcord, okay still ten paragraphs ok?, why cut "e" and not "a" out?.. :∫