Dear @DtubeDaily on @Dtube #161 // so i heard what nathan was saying, some ideas..

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i caught a video this morning from @nathanmars about engagement on dtube videos and was wondering how to maybe frame the request better, after all lots of other places have engagement through regular radio shows and such like and i know we have many ‘promoting’ dtube shows here as well but do we have any of those things that pull them together, like regularly, daily even? — maybe we need to do some kind of dial in, live video chat ‘get to know the dtube’ person behind the account?

i know one of the things for me about ‘engaging’ is that i often have a cycle to my day which i means i don’t have much time for content watching, less so for engagement, dtube is not as smooth (yet) for me as say something like youtube, i’d love some kind of tool that just backed to backed playback of my favourite videos and allowed me a quick fire reply/comment to each one as i was watching.

as for content/engagement here on dtube, i guess i’m a more face to face person, like last year at steemfest 2 i loved talking to a bunch of people who’s blogs i follow and comment on but i don’t do it religiously — also, i definitely feel there is an underlying ‘judgement’ that goes on with the ‘quality’ of content on every platform in the social sphere, we certainly need more positivity and uplift rather than judgement over quality and ‘what kit’ was used, we should be building ourselves up, not just judging over the ability to wield words and equipment.

i’ve kinda been through all this before when i first got on the web with the early 100 strong (ish) yahoo videoblogging group — the way we got into better conversations was to tell stories, in fact that’s what bought me a lot more closer to the people because i got to know more about the person behind the camera, i remember people sharing very personal blogs of their family members passing away — the empty bed afterwards and the feelings they were going through.

maybe we just need to be a bit more direct and to just engage with people one on one, to like provide a bridge between each other, so that people see that content and react to it with questions or interactions, maybe just talking about ‘content’ and ‘community’ is not enough, maybe


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I think he is entitled to his anger. Seems his primary goal and one of his major talking points is engagement. And I give him a lot of credit getting peoples attention and making his intentions clear. It's been pointed out before that there are so many creators creating and really not that many people that are consuming and engaging in the content that is created. A primary unit to measure value of content is with the engagement. I understand that it's a hard balance being a full time creator and being fully engaged with other creators. I feel like I'm failing in my engagement and I know that I need to step it up. His video only confirms what I already feel about myself. Good topic to discuss.

absolutely great topic to discuss, ya wanna get into a live video about it too, I think that's the best way to really sound the issues out -- because what is the 'content' and the 'quality' to different people right? sometimes for me personally it's about stepping through and making like with an artist and a canvas compelled to paint ya know?

also when we talk about a full time creator as a vlogger what is that? the words 'content' and 'value' get thrown around so much it's hard to really understand what people are really trying to say.

I guess engagement needs to be defined for this platform. I think video responses and comments are a great form of engagement. This also makes me think of the topic of video stats like views and minutes watched. I think those would be helpful tools to measure the value of content. But also like you stated it is subjective. I've always been a numbers guy but that might also take away an essence. I would love to join a discussion on this subject but I don't really know what else I could offer other than what I have already said in these comments.

ah, ok. thanks for the comments anyway. guess this was engagement :)

No problem. I do hope that you get to talk to @nathanmars because I would love to hear what he has to say when asked some of these questions.

yeah, me too. I think he's done so much for people I wanna help discuss it face to face, even if that's a live stream ya know? unpack that a bit because it's different for everyone like you said with the stats etc.

I comment on most videos I watch. With that said I don't know if I've watched many of your videos. I completely understand why @nathanmars is upset and it's the same reason why I post and comment every day. I want engagement and become energized by that engagement but I see what he sees. Most videos I comment on, i see and say man this is a good video and then notice no comments. Why is that? Its frustrating.

hmm, see I guess it depends on what you want to see happen with the video you put out, for me, it's like a post it note, how do you get better at video making if you are not making and putting them out. if I waited for people to leave comments and used that as my own barometer of progress I'd get nowhere. I guess it comes down to the person too, why you do it, what you expect to receive..

thank you for commenting! :)

commenting is great sure, engagement is different and I think we need to expand on that of how we can all work together to get to a bigger destination together.

I see two audiences -- the one that is the automation of the blockchain algorithm and the other is the real world of people, people like to have relationships before they start commenting of have things in common often -- I mean I don't just walk into a bar and sit down with a group of people who are already drinking, you have to have an in -- I think just doing these comments allows that to happen.

I'm not saying that videos are dictated by the comments received but I do believe that comments are equal engagement. Comments are also content, as I have said in other videos I've made because you also get upvotes for comments. There is value in commenting and I don't understand why more people don't comment for that reason alone.

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maybe they have busy lives, who knows, multiple reasons, I know for me video is a like a muscle I exercise ;)