Re: your conversation with Frank about Koresh, charisma, etc. No one remembers Marjoe, his last name was Gortner, a child preaching prodigy and he was used by his horrible parents as a tent revivalist, they made a lot of money on the itinerant circuit, on radio, it's creepy as hell. After his childhood notoriety, as an adult he made a comeback of sorts with a documentary on his life, and he got some work on the fringes of Hollywood, became a darling of the freak scene, the documentary won an Academy Award it was so wild, it is easily found online. Fascinating story. You should use some Marjoe footage in the Hoax Wars information war.