25 Reasons Steem Will Replace Bitcoin as #1 Cryptocurrency by 2021!

berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

The fact that you spent so much to promote this to the top of trending and it has over $2k in rewards is absolutely disgusting. You and all of those bot owners who contributed to this should be ashamed.

You're making Steemit look like a scam while trying to promote yourself and make yourself feel important.

It's fucking pathetic, Jerry. Some day the community here is going to wake up, I hope that happens before you do more damage.

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ashe-oro (64) · 7 years ago

it's the rules of the game. Steem doesn't have a proper promotion system so ppl buy upvotes to promote themselves. The only problem I see is that ppl feel they can't make money on Steem w/o having to buy votes. Jerry is just using the system as created.

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

we get to choose the rules of the system lmao. So "Jerry is just using the system as created.", just means "As long as we allow Jerry to operate in this way its completely fine"

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Agree 100%

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cocacho (55) · 7 years ago

Jerry invests % of what he earn back in steemit. He promote the network with advertising. I visit this post from twitter. Also this article proves how well he knows steemit and what is better for the network than someone knowing it well having the money and ideas to promote it? The Richer Jerry got, the better steemit will become! He's a true steemhead. Keep it up man!

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Maybe

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grizgal (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

How does a post stating steemit is better than bitcoin prove anything?

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sirstacksalot (63) · 7 years ago

They're all going to zero anyway.

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duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

I like boobs

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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viog37 (46) · 7 years ago

Jerry invests less than crap into @steemit . He pays to the bots to promote his low quality posts. How is paying to bots an investment in Steemit ?? Are the bots
actively looking for good quality content? Are the bots creating content? How are the bots participating in a positive manner in here, other than upvoting all the rubbish ?? Not to mention jerry jerry uses his own bot to promote himself. How is that good character ??

duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

I promote myself writing stupid comments like "I like boobs"

duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

I like boobs

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duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

See?

rusotag (42) · 7 years ago

Agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!

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duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

I don't know about that...I only know that I like boobs

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travelalert (49) · 7 years ago

But do you really??? I don't think you're into boobs.

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goingforhealthy (38) · 7 years ago

lol

chumbawumba (25) · 7 years ago

If youre a big fat man im a tittie fan and i'd like to see yours to!

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yanlipavsky (52) · 7 years ago

Steem in 2021
https://steemit.com/meme/@yanlipavsky/bl6oyev4

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arianpet (52) · 7 years ago

I agree, you are right

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lgndmark (25) · 7 years ago

Agree 77.35%

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baloothebear (49) · 7 years ago

Very true, i just joined Steemit this year and it feels really bad if you put hard work into a post and nobody can even see the post if you dont use bots. I really feel i have to use bots just so my post have more exposure and more ppl will see it.... It does feel the system is kinda flawed no? I hope this will be different in the future... And yes, insane money made with his post lol, i wish i would only get 10% of that :)

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5 votes

viog37 (46) · 7 years ago

bcs of people like jerry all the good content is drowned into the pile of rubbish promoted into the trending page .

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago

Hey @baloo! Congratulations on using your voting power. I just checked up on you on steemnow.com. Even at a reputation of 49, you are still making a difference.

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viog37 (46) · 7 years ago

This is not using the system as created; but it's abusing the system, which it wasn't created for people to pay tons of money to advertise. It was created to incentivise and encourage it's users to create good quality content . Which is not the case with this post .

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9 votes

grizgal (55) · 7 years ago

Bots have been around for ages and remove the ability of good quality content to get to the top. It hasn’t been like that since before I joined last year.

topnetworkeral (47) · 7 years ago

sadly the people who are all for the abuse of the system, do not realize how they are killing the future of the currency. Several people on this thread notice the flaws; and those flaws should not be 'defended', but are, by others who 'also' are exploiting and abusing the system.

People who rob banks don't snitch on other bank robbers....

duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

the system is rigged....but even if people buy votes, steem is actually superior to all the other cryptos

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

These cocksuckers are supposed to be using the FUCKING PROMOTED TAB at the top for shit like this. NOT USING BID BOTS to abuse steemit!!!!

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vdux (60) · 7 years ago

Hmm would you say my haiku contest isn't good quality content? What about the haikus it produces?

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viog37 (46) · 7 years ago

If it yields creativity and brings something new to the table, then yes, it brings some value to the community . Now it's up to you whether you maintain or increase the quality of it or not .

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vdux (60) · 7 years ago

Cool. Just checkin' y'all!

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igster (63) · 7 years ago

Since all the data is available on the blockchain, someone could make alternative site which filters all the promoted posts automatically.

marketingmonk (71) · 7 years ago

Totally agree. The Steem developers have grossly neglected probably the single most important aspect of the Steem economy which is the promotions and advertising feature. This feature needs developing much further.

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juancarlos1175 (57) · 7 years ago

I wish I could buy a few votes, in my different posts, I can only achieve 1 or 2 votes hehehehe

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talanhorne (67) · 7 years ago

I can't promise I'll upvote any of your posts, but I upvote commenters on my posts, and I'm more generous than some.

You're always welcome on my page.

juancarlos1175 (57) · 7 years ago

Thank you so much. I am follow you now.

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

I know how you feel, actually most of the people here are in your situation unfortunately...

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grizgal (55) · 7 years ago

And it will continue that way because with Steem, the money goes to those who already hold the most money!

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juancarlos1175 (57) · 7 years ago

Sad but truth

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kingbrianboru (61) · 7 years ago

well the thing is, the more steem someone holds, the more steempower they have, so they basically see self-voting or delegating/selling their votes to a vote bot service as getting a return on their investment. Then they plough their sbd/steem rewards into bots to gain further profits. Steem is just like any other crypto at the end of the day where the big boys are looking for big returns.

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juancarlos1175 (57) · 7 years ago

Yes, that is the sad truth. Greetings.

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago

Hey @juancarlos! I just checked up on you on steemnow.com. Even at a reputation of 44, you are still making a difference by voting on quality content. Once you start gaining more steem, you can learn how to regulate your voting in a measurable way.

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juancarlos1175 (57) · 7 years ago

You're right, I have no idea how to use my vote,
I need to learn it.

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topnetworkeral (47) · 7 years ago

I 'think' that is a bot; saw it comment on a few other people with literally the same text ....

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juancarlos1175 (57) · 7 years ago

for sure it's like that, a bot that recognizes what your level of reputation or voting power is

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krischik (61) · 7 years ago

It's not just a feeling. It's a fact.

I don't buy votes (not here for the big profit) and I make about 3 Steem a month. That is not what I would call “making money”. You probably make more with each self upvoted posting. But my self upvotes are worth Ȿ 0.01 which get's rounded down to zero after seven days.

You have joined in 2016 when opportunity was ample and competition low. These times are over. “Isn't that a pyramid scheme?“ I was asked yesterday. That's a hard hitting question.

I for one have a Minds account as well because Minds is only adding crypto right now. At Minds I am the first generation early adaptor.

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tesselart (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

I didn't know Minds is adding a cryptocurrency, that's very interesting. Frankly Reddit and Slashdot and even Facebook and Google have been in that position for years where they could do that but I suppose it can be legally difficult to navigate that as a corporation. Besides of course raking in all that money for themselves, why would they give you some? I mean you are only the one generating all the worth of their platform after all.

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coderguyhans (31) · 7 years ago

"It's the rules of the game"...but the game itself ain't that clean, huh?

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endless.drugs (65) · 7 years ago

SADLY A HUGE CHUNK OF THE COMMUNITY IS IN HERE ONLY FOR LUCRATIVE PURPOSES AND NOT JUST FOR FUN OR SPREADING SOCIAL MESSAGES TO HUMANITY... I AM STONED TO SHIT (HAPPY 4/20 GUYS!) and sadly this is just the way the system is created, for the first time I agree with you @berniesanders!

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tanvir1414 (41) · 7 years ago

I am agree too!!!!!

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

In this case, one is to promote yourself and another thing is to buy 2k rewards in votes. This is a little extreme promotion, don't you think? :))

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nodzcrypto (30) · 7 years ago

100 % True

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sim427 (25) · 7 years ago

Exactly! You know he buys upvotes...buyer beware. Skepticism should be as second nature as cynicism in this age, just exercise it and move on!

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attajuttjj (48) · 7 years ago

i like the post and i want to steem to be #1 cryptocurrency

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maikellelcrack (42) · 7 years ago (edited)

true @ashe-oro It is the way to facilitate the visualization of your publication, but you must invest, even if what @berniesanders says is true, but more truth is that without the healing bots, you can not have more votes.

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prakashghai (63) · 7 years ago

Yes, True

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thecastle (68) · 7 years ago

The only problem I see is that ppl feel they can't make money on Steem w/o having to buy votes.

How is this different than every single other platform out there?

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habib288 (25) · 7 years ago

the vote bots get more income over time they will become powerful.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

THEY DO HAVE A PROMOTION SYSTEM. Those mother fuckers CHOOSE NOT to use it. They RATHER ABUSE the system & not play the game right!!!! SEE THAT PROMOTED TAB at the top right. That is WHERE THOSE COCKSUCKERS are supposed to be putting this shit at.

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samirphuyal (25) · 7 years ago

I fully Agreed!
oww again it still seems One (Me now) commented to be upvoted!

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anthonyj (58) · 7 years ago

Fully agree. If people are upset/jealous that others are using a bot feel free to create your own and attempt to make it successful. Successful bots deserve their earnings.

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n32mente (42) · 7 years ago

okay so they created it then!

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fieldsofgold (41) · 7 years ago

That is very judgmental (imo). I don't think Jerry's intent is to make #Steemit look like a scam or that his success and continual commitment is disgusting.

With all systems the rules of the game are that, the rules. Yes there are ways to upgrade, evolve and improve and I advocate, as many of us know, that Steemit is an emerging technology.

Let's celebrate what we like instead of bashing what we judge?
Cheers!

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princeshobuz (43) · 7 years ago

Agree

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

capital accumulation. As the vote bots get more income over time they will become more powerful. If you are going to do anything to stop this it has to be sooner rather than later.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

As the vote bots get more income over time they will become more powerful.

I predicted/proved in 2016 that there was no solution which could make “proof-of-brain” equitable.

The whitepaper of Steem even admits that the “proof-of-brain” reward system depends on being able fool most of the users into doing more effort than they will be equitably rewarded.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Vote bots are run & controlled and owned by the owners of those bots, right? In that case, those people get the capital from those bots. Whether you like it or not, isn't that how capitalism work? Those people have the freedom to do whatever they want with the money they make from bots. Google, Facebook, & so many are making money off us. Facebook uses bots but they calls Facebook Ads. Facebook is making billions of dollars each year off us. I believe in freedoms in the markets to let people do what they want, good or bad. But real people on Steemit can outnumber and outpower bots eventually because people like people more than bots and are more likely to upvote people more than they upvote bots to some extent or that is at least the potential.

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

you may believe in the freedoms of the market, but I believe in the complete opposite. I believe in freedom for the people.

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duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

So are you completely atheist? don't you believe in supernatural?

anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

why?

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duartenunes (61) · 7 years ago

just curiosity..... because of you nickname

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago

I believe they are the same thing. The market is dictated by the people, even the little people. I just checked on your voting power, which is at 87% at the time of this comment. This is a good thing. If more minnows were using their voting power on quality posts, we'd be significantly minimizing the damage the larger scammers and abusers are causing.

anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

the market is dictated by trends that force people into groups based on how they act, so each person has the freedom to choose what position they join, but the outcome is the same.

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theironfelix (62) · 7 years ago

But anarchy, muh job creations and free market!

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trumanity (60) · 7 years ago

They are definitely not the same. Jerry and other groups make out as if if you follow certain rules (quality posts, engagement etc) you will prosper here. It is not the way this works at all. They are quickly writing their own rules, hiding a lot under the table but doing their best to promote the system as though it is squeaky clean. They will do everything in their power o keep the status quo even abusing features like the flag button, circle voting (assisting or turning a blind eye to those who are doing it for instance). It's all looks clean, they are either assisting to protect you and I from spam, scams, or generating quality content by curating.. it's all hogwosh. It's straight up thuglife. The sooner people act collectively, the better.

Capital centers itself around a single goal - profit. People center themselves around other goals, but it becomes hard to organise around such things. Hard, but not impossible.

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago

This is exactly right. It would really need to be up to the minnows to band together. I think that was the whole point of the curation trail in the first place. It has become abused as well, but at least there is some good with it. I actually talk about how the minnow vote matters in my video here: https://steemit.com/voting/@littlescribe/ysuyl18g

trumanity (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

You have a great collection of useful videos - I've bookmarked that post and will share when I have new friends joining! I like the idea of curation trails, and those votes can really stack up in value if the curation trail master is any good. I use curation trail only for one trail and fanbase for about 4 trusted people here: I constantly go after my votes, reading material, and engaging.. I consider my actual reputation could be spoiled unless I do this - people follow me, not the curator that I follow.

On the issue of whether our votes truly matter, I initially thought you were referring to witness votes ;-) in which case, this 2 year-old post by @transparency may or may not still be relevant - on steemit, all upvotes (even for witnesses) aren't equal. I still screen the witness-category diligantly, believing my tiny vote is still counted.

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arobquinn (28) · 7 years ago

@anarchyhasnogods you are on a roll, keep it up

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fourfourfun (55) · 7 years ago

People tend to believe in freedom of the market right up until the point where the market begins shitting all over them, at which point they about face and start crying about it.

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

I have always been against the market, even when it benefits me.

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theironfelix (62) · 7 years ago

Me, a "unwoke" person: "Yeah seems reasonable if one follows their principles and we can't always control the things that are out of our control."
Me, a "woke" person: "Well.... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... muh markets are inherently good and can never be challenged ever if it's truly free! Freedums!"

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

You’re ostensibly conflating monopolies (due to power vacuums) with free market capitalism.

For example, central banks loaning money to the government (thus forcing regressive taxation) came about because the power vacuum of democracy is totalitarianism.

You’re incorrect to blame the free market for the power vacuum of democracy. The problem with Steem is they haven’t designed the rewards system correctly. I will fix that problem.

There’s nothing wrong with the free market, it’s the design of the system that is fucked.

The alternative to the free market is democracy which is totalitarianism. How many examples (c.f. also) do I need to provide to convince you?

Unless I’ve misunderstood your stance, this is a very grave misunderstanding on your part. I hope you will lose that tendency of chasing your own tail and not realizing it. I hope my elucidation has helped you see the truth.

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

The freedom of the market is the freedom of the people because we the people are the markets.

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

incorrect, the monopoly of violence enforces arbitrary property laws (private ownership of the means of production for example), and attacks any area without this same system, in an effort to survive. Private ownership of the means of production and capital accumulation forces people into positions based on their actions, and forces them to continue acting in a specific way or lose the position. This means regardless of who is where, society will take the same path. Freedom is when society uses democracy to decide its future, not when it struggles for decades to fight the markets for literal survival (in the case of climate change, and imperialism, for example).

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theironfelix (62) · 7 years ago

Political Power.jpg

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

and using that logic, I can say every system is the people, so thus every system is "free". You can say whatever you want about the correctness of that definition, but that doesn't make it useful.

The definition of freedom I use is the ability of the individuals within society to determine its path, which is not what happens today.

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theironfelix (62) · 7 years ago

Would've made Hegel real proud with self-consciousness and self-determinations.

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billythekid42 (25) · 7 years ago

I believe in making the most useful product. A site filled with self promotion isn't useful.

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insidelook (39) · 7 years ago

Looks like they added a feature to slow down the process of upvoting. Simple answer to the mass upvoting bots for now.

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https://steemit.com/meme/@yanlipavsky/bl6oyev4

yanlipavsky (52) · 7 years ago

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

stop advertising

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sirstacksalot (63) · 7 years ago

Pot calling the kettle black

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jie28 (56) · 7 years ago

In your thoughts ?what will be jerry want to prove to be for this post? You is one of the big name here @berniesanders. so i will appreciate what is your nice great replied it's knowledgeable to me. Thank you.

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

I don’t know the problem in the wrong rules that allow abuse sometimes, or in the people who take advantages of such rules? I am really wondering and caught in between ethics and legal business opportunities !

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guiltyparties (70) · 7 years ago

3 likes on Twitter as of now, man that's some trending

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12 votes

samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Have you looked at his followers on twitter? I hope he didn't pay to much for them! Likewise, I would have expected someone with over 200,000 subscribers on youtube to have more than 438 views since he put the video up.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Likewise, I would have expected someone with over 200,000 ~~subscribers~~[sock puppets] on youtube to […]

ftfy.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

I smell a great conspiracy theory here...

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

Yeah, it is not like YouTube ever censors and hides views and shadow bans and it is not YouTube terminated my OJAWALL channel because that would be crazy right?

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dera123 (62) · 7 years ago

That YT killed your channel is one thing but has nothing to do with jerrys 200k subs which are obviously bought. And even if yt hides his uploads with the glorious algorithm he should have more viewers than 0,25% of the subs. If I compare it with the yt channel of my girlfriend who has 200k subs I would say he has 5k-20k real subs and bought the rest.

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

YouTube censors anything they want. YouTube messes with my newsfeed, AKA subscription feed. YT shows me channels I didn't subscribe to sometimes. Normally, no problem, but once a week, I get something in my subscription feed. Twitter shadow bans. Facebook does it. Millions of people can tell you what the HELL I am talking about. For more info about this, go check out the videos of http://MarkDice.com

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

These cocksuckers are supposed to be using the FUCKING PROMOTED TAB at the top for shit like this. NOT USING BID BOTS to abuse steemit!!!!

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bestgift (67) · 7 years ago

Bitcoin is almost crossing the finish line, Steem just started its journey and has a long way to go.

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manolisthan (37) · 7 years ago

You forget that BTC is the virtual gold. It will always have the greatest value.

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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cuongbass (25) · 7 years ago

Hy vọng vậy

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cryptosenpai (56) · 7 years ago

BTC crossing finish line? That would pretty much mean the end of cryptos if that would be true. BTC will be worth hundreds of thousands of $$$ in a few years. if not million + .

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travelalert (49) · 7 years ago

This is what happens when you buy followers.

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travelalert (49) · 7 years ago

This is what happens when you buy followers.

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improv (67) · 7 years ago

Maybe the answer is a steem-blockchain-based platform that doesn't use post payout value as the basis for post ranking? I dunno. There is, of course, one's feed to help you curate what you like to see best, but how to find those in the first place? It's a conundrum. Anything that can be bought will be sold. In this case, what's valuable is $ on a post, so people buy valuable votes. As I go through a list of the possibilities of how to organically rank content in my head, everything is purchase-able. (And, even worse, those who already have the power have the ability to gain even more power, since wealth is power.)
Perhaps a platform with 'trending rankings' based on how many real-human comments it has? pro: things are ranked by actual interactions. Con: It seems hard to program an AI smart enough to tell the difference between bot comments and human comments...Though, captchas to answer before you leave a comment? hm.

But... we can all agree that, relative to many posts on this platform, this one isn't worth 200,000 times as much as the average noobie's introduce yourself. So, shouldn't we all "disagree on rewards"? Except the power is concentrated in the hands of so few, and there is such an incredibly strong anti-flagging social pressure, and my trickle is better spent upvoting the content I like than downvoting the content I disagree on rewards for, especially if I don't hate the content, just think it's not worth $2k, and since it'd be such a small drop in the bucket...

OH!

oOo. There could be a ranking platform that would pay curators a little more proportionately that had them compare two posts and vote on which they liked better. If you wanted to be considered for the trending page, you'd opt-in. Hmm.

I'm no developer, but that would seem a little less abuse-able. Ideas Ideas.

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talanhorne (67) · 7 years ago

Putting forth actual ideas is worth an upvote.

improv (67) · 7 years ago

I appreciate it. I do hope there's some method by which the average user's interests can be taken into account as the platform develops, even though so much of the stake is currently held by a very small percentage of accounts.

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mirrors (56) · 7 years ago

25 Reasons Steem Will Replace Bitcoin as #1 Cryptocurrency by 2021!

MY foot!

This one (Jerry) is behaving like a man who visits a sick friend with a KFC piece of chicken. All will be well, he tells the sick man, while secretly emptying sick man's pockets money more than his KFC chicken cost.

I Joined only recently, and among the top names i heard of around here as iconic, was Jerry banfield. But with this kind of nonsence, heck it is nonsense. $2,000 plus!!! Seriously this work that is merely full of polemics and semantics is not worth more than 100 buck!

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cryptosenpai (56) · 7 years ago

The title was enough for me, I won't even bother reading the article itself. Last time I read his opinion about cryptos(months ago) he clearly stated he is 100% in Steem, nothing else. That's a pretty big bias and an insane risk. And also the biggest mistake since any crypto project can become worthless in days or even hours...

mirrors (56) · 7 years ago

True.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Personally, I lol'd at 'faith'.

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cuongbass (25) · 7 years ago

Làm cách nào để đăng bài

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Bạn chỉ cần đăng một bình luận. Tạo một bài đăng blog là khác nhau.

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mirrors (56) · 7 years ago

Its funny, trust me, but not good for the platform at all.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

I have a weird sense of humour - as anyone who reads my #comedyopenmic posts can attest. No, I was laughing at the absurdity - I know markets are hard to predict, but faith, if that is a tendency to ignore evidence, is not a good trait in someone giving you investment advice.

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mirrors (56) · 7 years ago

I agree. And such a comic way you put it! I should follow you pronto!!

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago

I got your LOL there Sam. I have seen you on the comedy stuff too.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Thanks.
I'm wondering if part of what makes this all so jarring is that we are not its intended audience. What would a less-scrupulous potential investor make of that list? Are comments about 'faith' a way of telling outsiders that most of us would probably leave it too late to cash out if things turn irrevocably bad?

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago

I don't know? Would most of us leave it too late to cash out if things turned bad?

Actually, I take that question back. Where is your faith!

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

@Mirrors, do you say the same thing to people who smokes, do drugs, drink, buy a bunch of video games, cheat on their wives, etc? Does it matter? What happened to free will? If I want to eat KFC chicken while dying & overpay for the stupid chicken, would you try to stop me or will you let me have the FREEWILL to throw my money away?

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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andy.cline (35) · 7 years ago

KFC is the national Xmas food of Japan

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

I love eating chicken. I love eating from gardens even more.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

Popeye is pretty good it seems. I prefer gardens even more.

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elmanaa (20) · 7 years ago

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Bernie I wrote a point-by-point rebuttal.

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ma8trix (47) · 7 years ago

I think Jerry creates allot of good material. Is it worth 2k dollar? maybe not but than again i rather have the content creator earn money than a giant company who can also censor and dictate to us what we are allowed to write, think and earn.
If you think you can do a good job writing why not focus on that and create good content? Thats why STEEM was created for.

cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

LOL what a joke berniesanders you flagged my comment here because I don't agree with you, wow. This is what you want for steemit, a platform of censorship. Kindly send me the steemit use handbook approved by you so I will know moving forward how to "use" steemit per berniesanders.

berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago (edited)

I flagged you because you're self-voting the fuck out of your posts and comments. There are FAR more flags to come, trust me.

Why haven't you upvoted this one yet?

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

why is that an issue? Where can I find a rule book on voting?

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

how is this productive? And why do you care what I do with my vote and investment?

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

Why do I care? Because you obviously support people like Jerry, who I think are bad for Steem.

Bugs get squashed, don't be a gnat.

cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

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billythekid42 (25) · 7 years ago

I'm new and sorry for the dumb question, but how do you down vote?
only up.PNG

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littlescribe (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Just click on the flag icon to the right of each comment or post, and vote someone down the same way you'd vote them up. You have to keep in mind, though, that a downvote also uses up voting power. So use it wisely.

ammonite (67) · 7 years ago

Probably the most vote worthy comment I've read here.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

what is funny is that you are upvoting your posts too, omg finally some fun here :))

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Yeah, that is right, at least for some of them. Sorry, now I realized that. Anyway, congrats for flagging jerry, he got that post overrewarded

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mup (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

Another one with a dead account. Too bad you're too fucking ignorant to understand the difference between $.75 and $2k. Bye bye!

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

I deserve what I get from the reward pool because the majority of my voting power goes to flagging trash like you, spammers, scammers, etc.

Keep going, this is about to get real fun for me...

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

This is the @berniesanders I have missed. Steemit need more fun again. And you always bring the fun. Maybe you could join my #ShitPostChallenge & have even more fun.

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

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defc0n1 (50) · 7 years ago

lol 2k per post? Damn, I'd be milking the system too. I'd take 20 cents for a post. I can't even get 5cents for a post. I'm broke bitch! @berniesanders

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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grey580 (61) · 7 years ago

I think we need to own up to the fact that the platform is broken. And unless we demand some serious change. It will stay that way.

Jerry is just another in a long line of people that's studied the playing field. Found the flaw. And is exploiting it to his benefit.

Right now there is 0 reason for anyone to join this platform unless:

You know a whale
You use bid bots

It's a sad state of affairs.

idestroy (49) · 7 years ago

They should remove bots that vote together most of the time... it's a growing problem.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

Steemit wont last if this shit continues till 2021.

Jerry looks like a geeky mad man in his videos, noding head like an ostrich all the fuking time..
There are already people out there noting down flaws of steemit, and coming up with something better...
No wonder Dan left steemit for EOS.

Steemit Market Cap will cross Bitcoin Market Cap?

Does he even know what he is talking??

He talks:

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

Jerry looks like a geeky mad man in his videos, noding head like an ostrich all the fuking time..

That was simply brilliant!

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

lol.. most of the time he talks crap confidently, so most of the dumb fucks that follow him trust him.. he has 200k dumb fucks following him on youtube. He is a smart conman for dumbfucks..

His followers

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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topnetworkeral (47) · 7 years ago

this comment right here tho!!!

No wonder Dan left steemit for EOS

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x33 (41) · 7 years ago

Real talk brah !! This what exactly I'm feeling right now.. i hate to see this fucking trending page with this bullshit posts over and over again..👍

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

And we cant do a shit about it.. Im using steemit just to write posts and comments.. I dont bother about my SP anymore..

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cuongbass (25) · 7 years ago

hãy chờ đi bạn

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

Please give us links to better systems like maybe http://Gab.ai or what could beat Steemit? Could http://Minds.com do better?

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

I just used 4 minutes of my time exactly to read the Minds’ whitepaper. They do nothing to solve the flaws of a reward system that plagues Steem. And a phone number verifies nothing because these can be obtained for free in bulk.

I had signed up for Gab.ai some months ago to respond to some dissident. But the site sucks so much that I never bothered to go back there or even remember the name until you reminded me.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

I prefer Steemit over Gab and Minds at the moment. Yeah, you can always find ways to make fake accounts. People always figure these things out. We can try to stop fake accounts, puppets, clones, bots, etc. But to what end? Of course I do not like fake profiles but I feel it is too counterproductive to go after that for example.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

I prefer Steemit over Gab and Minds at the moment.

The UI of Steemit isn’t stellar but it’s better than when I tried Gab in 2016 or 2017. I haven’t tried Minds or Yours.

Yeah, you can always find ways to make fake accounts. People always figure these things out. We can try to stop fake accounts, puppets, clones, bots, etc. But to what end? Of course I do not like fake profiles but I feel it is too counterproductive to go after that for example.

It’s essential to stop rewarding free tokens from the STINC faucet to fake accounts. That’s means by which the cartel can obfuscate that they’re taking most of the rewards with sockpuppets.

For tokens that are bought in the free market, there’s no problem if the buyer and seller agree to be anonymous. That’s their choice to make.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

I do not really like http://Yours.org at the moment as it is kind of tough to use.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Ease-of-use is essential for getting more than 1% of the Internet population (c.f. also) to use your software¹. Note I’m the sole author of that software and it was a one-man company.

¹ _{More recent page on download.com}

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compleatgamester (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

I've almost completely switched to Minds. As far as I'm concerned Steem is dead, eaten from inside by greed. Their whole virtual economy system is utterly inappropriate for any kind of long-term sustainability. Unless something radically changes (and i mean RADICALLY) Steemit is a rotting corpse crawling with bots and ruled by a small clique of unscrupulous robber barons. In the end, Steem prices will collapse and even the whales will lose screwed by their own greed and stupidity.
Over and out.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

When we speak something like this, some whales call us loosers... I wonder whats wrong with their geeky brains. Ignorance will lead steemit to dust, hopefully things change asap. No wonder Dan left steemit for EOS, something more legit.

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jamesbrown (62) · 7 years ago (edited)

Please don't make me point out the irony of intending to say "loser", referring instead to being "looser".

I don't want this conversation to revolve around the status of your anus after being treated by the whales of Steemit, thank you.

[/dick mode]

Seriously, though. If you want respect from aristocrats (rich narcissists/ psychopaths), you have to be mindful of your grammar.

[/truth]

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

Another Grammar Nazi..lol. Most of your so called Mainstream English words has Sanskrit Roots, ZERO was invented by an Indian. You people have not been taught your true history, so before correcting grammar of another person, first look how disrespectful and ignorant you are.

However there is something called typing mistake too, and i have better things to do in life then reading everything i type then correct them, then submit, especially when commenting. I dont have free time like people like you here..

You give James Brown a bad rep, though.

Iv got two words for you:

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jamesbrown (62) · 7 years ago

I would have paid you for a science lesson, but I don't care so much for history. Too bad for you.

However there is something called typing mistake too, and i have better things to do in life ((then)) reading everything i type then correct them

(than)

I don't see two words. All I see is a video of two clowns acting the part.

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topnetworkeral (47) · 7 years ago

what is Minds @compleatgamester ??

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

These cocksuckers are supposed to be using the FUCKING PROMOTED TAB at the top for shit like this. NOT USING BID BOTS to abuse steemit!!!!

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yanlipavsky (52) · 7 years ago

Steem in 2021

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attalis (52) · 7 years ago

and voila, there you have your reason why steem will not take that spot from BTC. I'd be surprised if it will be top 10 in a year's time...

candy49 (63) · 7 years ago

It's not all bots though, is it? There are some actual idiots upvoting this because it had a clickbaity title.

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skyefox (60) · 7 years ago

@berniesanders I am not disagreeing with you at this point, but I wonder where your strong opinion comes from... I am not sure how much internet marketing you do, but the name of the game on social media is Automation. Bots are everywhere, facebook, twitter, youtube, reddit, instagram, pinterest tumblr, literally on every single network. Do those bots add value to the network? I can tell you with certainty that getting bots to pick up a keyword that you targeted is worth money.

I understand we aren't really talking about automation of boring tasks here but we are rather talking about paid promotion. Again, every single social media has paid promotion in some form or another and that includes steemit.

I perceive the voting bots as probably the current best way to promote your content. Do I want it to be like this? No. But if there was an advertising system ran by Steemit then it would most likely be a centralized advertising system. I wish we had a better option but it doesn't seem like we do.

Also I see you upvote yourself a lot to collect rewards, either that or one of those other accounts talks to people the exact same way that you do. Why do you agree with that part of the system but not paying money to possibly make money with vote bots? Thanks for your thoughts.

gofice (28) · 7 years ago

Absolutely true, fake guy whit bots trying to speak about steemit sucesses. Steem will be like bitcoin when people like him will stop using bots to be in trending and will be writing unice posts.

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niitesh (33) · 7 years ago

Exactly ,paid post, bots and everything else is taking the lime light here. No genuine posts making money, just paid promotion and bots helping to pep up the vote.

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umarsuperb (44) · 7 years ago

Absolutely true, I have been writing since many days, trying harder and harder, even some of my articles are better, if not the BEST, but still I haven't been able to receive even $1 on my good posts, that is pretty disappointing even though my fan following has increased to 72 as well.

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matthewdavid (54) · 7 years ago

It takes a while. Consistent posting with authenticity does bring results. It may not be huge dollar amounts, but you will connect with people and your voice will be heard.

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silentworld (52) · 7 years ago

You are absolutely right.very good comment

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felixixi (49) · 7 years ago

How come you promote #steemit but still recieve sbd for upvote stupid post. LoL

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vaerospace (53) · 7 years ago

Steemit is Dead to me

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yanlipavsky (52) · 7 years ago

Steem in 2021

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yogi.artist (59) · 7 years ago

Logged in to Steemit for the first time in over a year and see this utter garbage on the top of trending. 100 minutes of tokenized shite. Pathetic.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

Remember Jerry taught people how to "HACK STEEMIT"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1595&v=gAq94j1-11Q

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ideafarm (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey, I'm a newbie but I'd already figured out that you are an asshole. Now I'm having my doubts. Did I get you wrong? Are you against all of this vote selling bot shit? Are you for 100% human curation? If so, then I'm with you, at least on that. :)

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enforcer48 (68) · 7 years ago

This pushed me over the edge. @nextgencrypto has my support now.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

It's about time. I'm tired of fuckers like this. My VOICE can't be heard because of WHALES like him that will silence people telling the TRUTH on here. People are lucky I don't have half the power Bernie does because if I did they would be FUCKED way more than what he does to them. HAEJIN wouldn't be here right now. I would have made sure he was gone. But getting my 5 cent post flagged from fucking donkeys really makes it hard for me to level up on here. BUT PAYBACKS A BITCH MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!

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andy.cline (35) · 7 years ago

I wish online rage could rattle the online cage, but instead you find yourself fighting invisible ninjas and flailing about, realizing suddenly that you've embarrassed yourself again. I know, I know very well, because I agree with you. Every fresh platform that shows up soon get taken over by the self-serving pirates of the digital seas. The world is still dominated by, well, the dominant. If you don't embrace dominance as a valued trait, there's little chance to tip the scales in your favor. If you can fight on behalf of the greater good, you have to ask how that can be done... Mass participation? Collectivist battleships? How can we build collectivist battleships on the platform? Can we delegate an account as the tip of the spear and devise a way to divide the winnings? I'm a newb to blockchain so I'm just spitballin' here.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

I didn't embarrass myself. I slay those fucking wanna-be ninjas. Those ones who claim they are SELF MADE FAMOUS. Ones who claim they have had years & years of this & that. Simple search & you will see YEARS & YEARS of MY NAME on the INTERNETS!!!! I'm more FAMOUS than any of them combined. I just don't fucking brag about it like they do. I don't SCAM people for money. I don't BEG people to GIVE ME money. I EARN what I get. People REMEMBER things that I do. Others are just a slight memory of something they did. People will always remember the things I did.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

Maybe you could join my #ShitPostChallenge & have even more fun.

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toshlenoir (37) · 7 years ago

I tried to vote for you but you didn't win.
DAMN YOU TRUMP!

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freeanarchy (47) · 7 years ago

So what? If a man can do it let him do it, like you wouldn't do it if you were him. 😁

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schlijk (36) · 7 years ago

Yeah, never mind the uninspired mindless steemit and bitcoin praising

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mrsomeone (36) · 7 years ago

I have yet to understand the bitcoin praising. Maybe one day I will.

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bittruth (33) · 7 years ago

man I agree

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dang007 (61) · 7 years ago

Why dont you give it a break, you're always on his case.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago (edited)

Why? Because he's making Steemit look like some fucking get rich quick scheme and that's the last thing this place needs right now. He's scammy, whether intentional or not.

BTW, I love the resteeming posts shaming people for "gambling". What's that all about? Gave me a good laugh.

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

I came personally to crypto to get rich quick in a legal way.

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dang007 (61) · 7 years ago

They gamble when they shouldnt.

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attajuttjj (48) · 7 years ago

you rock

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fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

This guy is a complete shill, I put thousands of hours into steem to make not a dime, just to see this guy clean up for years. I keep trying, I don't need shill monies to love steem

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

no, I didn't start off like that. The community was ok at a point, until this incestuous frenzy too hold. Now everything is about leasing your steem power and up voting whales posts, instead of about content creation.

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asaduzzaman111 (29) · 7 years ago

wow good job bro........

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vakerojm (25) · 7 years ago

everyone to their own, be the envious

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psywirz0ut46 (25) · 7 years ago

Hi, you talk about him but we talk about you doing rage post just to get noticed and win steems too??

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felixqc (44) · 7 years ago

I'm a new user and i'm using steemit because i'm sick of all major social medias where you need to buy your promotion. If i'm creating good quality content i would like to get rewarded for what i've done... This is why we're supposed to use steemit... no?

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mlgcrypto (56) · 7 years ago

you act like steemit isnt just like every other social media platform

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steemingmark (55) · 7 years ago

sorry @berniesanders what is the bot you own called again please? i ask because i would like to start using it thanks =]

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capatazche (53) · 7 years ago

You need to organize the revolution, @berniesanders !

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

Maybe you could join my #ShitPostChallenge & have even more fun.

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polash66129 (2) · 7 years ago

I agree with you 100%

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basharat345 (41) · 7 years ago

agreed

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billythekid42 (25) · 7 years ago

There must be a way to combat this kind of manipulation. Could downvotes help?

Steemit will never become hugely popular if it's filled with this kind of promotion.

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armia (65) · 7 years ago

amazing

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dianas (25) · 7 years ago

If you have a hammer you can build a house or kill a man.... but the hammer is just one tool....

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viog37 (46) · 7 years ago

True, is so disgraceful.. what can you do.. let's clean this crap. He's not invincible, and there is always flagging alright? Looks like we have a lot of cleaning to do here @anthonyadavisii . Look at this ridiculous pool of rewards for basically zero value content.

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yanosh01 (61) · 7 years ago

Unfortunately @berniesanders this is how Steem Works. When i started here there was not so much usage of bid bots.

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drvimto (46) · 7 years ago

the whole bot system is killing things. sadly little will get done about it, until people end up leaving, or just run some automated type post system, where a sequence of bots just vote on it.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

I am now seeing post begging people to DELEGATE steem power to this mother fucker because FACEBOOK BANNED HIS ACCOUNT. If he can spend $2000 on BID BOTS. That mother fucker has enough STEEM POWER already. Don't cry me a fucking river for this fucking guy. I haven't had a fucking job since 2006. You don't see me having people beg to send me STEEM POWER do you????

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olivier10101 (3) · 7 years ago

@berniesanders: @Thanks a lot for the honour of receiving 7 flags on my currently curated steemit articles. I couldn't hope so much@. ^You should feel lucky Bernie Sanders @berniesanders that Jerry Banfield @jerrybanfield doesn't flag you down to 0 curation on this comment. You are still winning a part of 39.12 STEEM = +++ USD by hate-speeching as a low-life spammer on this trending Jerry Banfield article, btw, FYI. Is that disgusting?^
@jerrybanfield: Congratulations. You made it in the top 20 steemit witnesses.
Your post has been upvoted and resteeemed.

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prakashghai (63) · 7 years ago

Agree

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asher123 (34) · 7 years ago

What a nice catch...! There has to be action done..Many people are using technology, for any kind of cheating/manipulation..and Bot Owners is the correct word for this :P

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romanriviera (46) · 7 years ago (edited)

Agree 100% 👍

And waiting for the day when steam will be finally worth more 💰💰💰 than bitcoin.

For now I wish good luck 🍀 for everybody on ♨️ steemit.

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topnetworkeral (47) · 7 years ago

exactly part of my other comment too; the way that steem is set up, it allows too many people to exploit the system; It's a currency where only the Whales make money or benefit from these platforms; Everyone else drowns in the Ocean.

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ryanng (50) · 7 years ago

steemit is like a game. the system is you pay to get votes. for other crypto, you need to spend lots of money to mine the coin. here in steemit, you post to get coins. know the game well to play it well. since you know this is the way to make more money, why don't you do the same?
can you think of any other legal investment products that offers you 10%-50% returns on your investment in 7 days?? i can't! i only found out about this after reading more on google and steemit.
if you only have $10 to buy votes, then you make lesser. if you have $100 to buy votes, you might even be able to make a good side income from steemit every month. if you have $1000 to buy votes everyday, you can treat this as your full time income!

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khassan (32) · 7 years ago

Agree with you @ berniesanders

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trumanity (60) · 7 years ago

The fact that the post is also inferior o other better content, that is the saddest part about this type of abuse of the system. People like these post a lot of content giving people false hope while hiding the really dirty underhanded facts about this platform which is being made worse by abuse of the features at their disposal. I used to follow but I discovered they are not as principled as the make themselves out to be. It came as a sad realization.

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warezthief (25) · 7 years ago

Very well said. If it gets informative articles like quora or medium, It'll be one of the top website ever on the internet.

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designer-nouman (25) · 7 years ago

good

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sonnhanma (25) · 7 years ago

goood

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ariqcs (25) · 7 years ago

Even after you realized this thing you still using Steemit right? You can't force people like him to quit from Steemit neither do i, and if you are leaving Steemit people like him will be more and more to come and Steemit will become passive or cold community.
I'm new at Steemit but i'd love Steemit, this is why i will not leave from here, i will defend Steemit to stay active, fun, exciting social community.
Let's be friend. This place where people can help with their votes, sharing ideas and discuss everything..

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terryxian (25) · 7 years ago

I agree!!

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hamzahere (48) · 7 years ago

@berniesanders agreed

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sabri94 (25) · 7 years ago

Agree

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ritsofficial (14) · 7 years ago

Is this right @bernisanders ?

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essetre (34) · 7 years ago

BIG PROJECT

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vaerospace (53) · 7 years ago

10 reason Scamfield is an asshole

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lgndmark (25) · 7 years ago

How much money do you think he spends on promotion?

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phuong (46) · 7 years ago

100% agree

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dang007 (61) · 7 years ago

Welcome back after 2 month.

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phuong (46) · 7 years ago

Thanks, will update the steemit daily from now on.

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besham (17) · 7 years ago

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maidul88 (8) · 7 years ago

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oodeyaa (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

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jokersmoker (19) · 7 years ago

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cryptokidd (61) · 7 years ago

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

Shut the fuck up or I'm going to start flagging you again.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

YEAHHHHHHHH I told ya he was a FUCK!!!!!

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seekanddestroy (4) · 7 years ago (edited)

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lazylag (25) · 7 years ago

what happens with flag im new in community

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

This post right here is exactly why steemit will not surpass bitcoin. Why? I'll break down my points.

Buying of votes. Yes I agree that it's allowable to some extent, but 650$? Hell no. Edit: now over 1000$ REALLY!?!?No post should ever be worth this much. Also no offense to @jerrybanfield but this post isn't worth that much, it shouldn't be. Better content writers such as @whatamidoing deserve bigger payouts.
The fact that it seems like only the users control steemit. And look where it has got us? You have @haejin fucking upvoting his shit NINE TIMES A DAY. Nobody can do anything to stop it because he has a ton of funds at his deposal to keep his stuff up.
Minnow support is not strong enough. It relys on the good faith of other users to delegate their sp to it. Kinda hard to do that when the average user has jack shit for steem. Speaking of minnow support, how about you donate some of that sp to it @jerrybanfield instead of reaping all the rewards? Maybe for every other day, you should be using your voting bot FOR FREE.
Witnesses don't give a shit. The major users who are witnesses are just taking in profits while doing nothing. Do we REALLY need another steemit mobile app? No. Instead, we should be figuring out how to stop such abusive users from posting 9 times a day with 100$+ profit on each post.
Censorship. While sometimes it's understandable to downvote comments, it's way to powerful. All it would take for my comment to be hidden is a down vote from @haejin or @jerrybanfield .

Forgive me I'm drinking, but I think I got my point across. In this form , steemit WILL NOT EVER surpass bitcoin, not in a million years.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

Did you notice how he skipped over replying to this one while replying to many others?

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago

Not only that, but look at the replys. Not ONCE did he upvote a decent reply(wasn't expecting mine). He's too busy collecting money to actually think about helping users. This is why he will never get my vote.

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

he will never reply the accusations. He knows that he is wrong doing these things, but he also likes it. What is better is the fact that he used dlive to post this (I guess) and at least some rewards will be returned to that account.

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itstime (60) · 7 years ago

@mrbearbear - hey man , slightly disagree with your view point , as follows

Take any social media platform , one only succeeds when either they content is gold (Phiily D/ Casey N / others) or they have actual gold (CNN/ Comedy central/other big brands). Let's call it sweat equity vs sweet equity....those are the rules , they may not be fair but those are the rules.

With this context , to your points-

Free market , you can bid as much as you can afford , what's wrong with that?
Either you can bid or cannot bid , once it is ok to bid there can't be any limits.
Money talks , that's life.
Kind of sucks for rest of us.
Charity is not going to get us further in this venture.
As it is the platform is in it's initial years , it's time to put in the sweat equity. If/when it goes mainstream , whatever little minnow support is there will be vanished pretty fast.
Possibly you have tried running a facebook page/ Instagram page or Youtube , it's cut throat competition on those platforms.
As it is pointed out in other trending post today , unless there is monetary incentive for people to clean this stuff up , It's never going to happen.
Well yeah , it is sort of decentralized censorship.

Mean no disrespect , just disagree

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions! No worries. Here is my rebuttal

The problem with bid bots is the issue with the rewards pool. Jerry's 2000$ plus reward is taking away from all the other posts for his payout. Constant abuse will only make it worse, encouraging other users to do so. Here in the states, we are technically free market, but even then we have certain laws in place to prevent stuff like this from happening. If you want, I'll ellaborate even further in a future response.
Steemit was made to be a decentralized platform. The path it's headed to is centralization, which the developers have not done anything about. The platform is still young, and much more should be done.
Minnow support will not disappear, but it will lose value. Charities are still around today in our so called free market.
That one I'm in full agreement with. As I was talking with steem.services below, I highly doubt something will be done, unless steem has some sort of competition.
Goes back to the centralization. A single downvote should not be able to make a post hidden. With little accounts that's not an issue with. Nothing decentralized about that.

But of course let's not forget what the whole article is about. Jerry stated he thinks steem will surpass bitcoin in 2021. In this state, it won't, ever. For that to happen, we need growth, and as @themarkymark stated in one of his articles, the growth we are seeing is spam accounts, taking away from actual real users trying to get on the platform.

Not to mention, steem has dropped in market cap right now to below 30. There was a time it was much higher.

itstime (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey , look at that , 2 people on internet debating without name calling :)

Either bid bots are ok or are they not ok ? we need to make that determination first , if it's ok people will use leverage.

I understand the laws to break down monopoly to foster "free market" but I don't think that would apply within an ecosystem.

If it was upto me , bid bots shouldn't be allowed at all but I also know if we suppress the bid bots it will happen behind the scene on private chat servers .

Unless there is some manual curation or bid bot ban it's probably not going to change.

2.Centralized by people heavily investing in it and becoming whales , they are taking risk by investing and ought to be rewarded by the heavy influence they get in return.

To your broader point , yes, the title is clickbaity but I also see that @jerrybanfield has put a lot of effort in presenting the hour long well researched presentation.

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago

If I could be gone with the voting bots, I wouldn't have them at all, but I know most likely that will never happen. But there are things that can be done to fix the payouts such as capping it, or playing out to more the the curators after a certain percentage.
Imo, the power they have now is wayyyyyyyyy to much. Nobody should have these type of power to either upvote you or downvote you into Oblivion with 1 vote. That needs to change. This is definitely a fix they can do.

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itstime (60) · 7 years ago

I guess what you are saying is break up the monopoly of whales by forcing them divest , it has happened in world with big companies but since there is no ID check behind Steem a whale can just create shadow account and split token amongst them.

I do , however , take your broader point about the problem statement of few players having too much influence to leverage the rewards pool.

Here is a potential solution - once you go above a certain reward value , a % is deducted ( let's call it steem tax ?) and that gets fed back into the system.

Dramatic recreation :Here we see a regular steem user being Fuc$$d by a whale

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Here is a potential solution - once you go above a certain reward value , a % is deducted ( let's call it steem tax ?) and that gets fed back into the system.

They will just make more blogs and comment posts with sockpuppets to side-step any threshold.

Sorry there’s no fix for Steem’s reward system. Can’t be fixed. I pointed that out back in 2016.

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nabstertsr (50) · 7 years ago

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steem.services (61) · 7 years ago

The points you mention are definitely opportunities for Steemit Inc. to take notice of and make some improvements on the Steem blockchain level.

One recommendation that comes to mind is to enable beneficiary features for post payouts, and to make it so that the more a post earns, the higher the % beneficiary payout would be. That said beneficiary payout could get redistributed as beneficiary rewards to the author's followers/post upvoters/special Steem projects of author's choice/all Steemians. These are just some thoughts and suggestions.

To reduce Steem inflation, a portion of the beneficiary payouts could even get somehow redistributed back into the reward pool or burned (this should be possible without major whales having to downvote overly overvalued and/or spammy/abusive posts). To help with post spam, the initial automatic beneficiary payout % for each post over 4 within 24 hours would be increasingly higher on a linear or exponential scale.

And to help with direct message spam, I have an idea revolving around increasing the SBD from direct message transaction fees once a certain threshold is hit within a certain time frame.
For example, one solution would be to increase the min transaction fee by 0.001 for each 100 messages sent within the hour. The fee would be reduced back to 0.001 if the user waits [(number of messages sent within last 24 hours)/100] hour(s).

These are just some suggestions. Feel free to share yours.

mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

These voting bots either need to be more strict about blacklisting people, learn to show restraint with all the income they get, make some days free for low level users, or somehow just remove upvote bots all together. Love the idea of the higher beneficiary payout. And I would love steem.inc to take notice of this post. Sadly, I dont think it will happen. Edit: one other point, maybe if steem had some sort of competition, maybe then they would fix this mess.

eleftheriosart (55) · 7 years ago

Very interesting information!!!

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sames (65) · 7 years ago

Here another thing bitcoin has smart contracts and token is the form of rsk.co
It has kind do 1K tps and more with sharding. As good as steem no but it can scale to billions one day
And second bitcoin is working on diff scaling methods yes it not as good as other coins right now almost every coin has bitcoin traits and many tech is being made by bitcoin every day that other coins are just taking. This was the dumbest post i ever read....
Hope you liked my addition to your claims :)

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howo (70) · 7 years ago

This.

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toshlenoir (37) · 7 years ago

Can I have your bitcoin then?

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago

You should be asking Jerry that, not me .

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hasenmann (65) · 7 years ago

I thought abour writing exactly what you said. But then I read your comment.
Thanks for the summary. That´s all I think what´s going wrong.

There are so many good content creators here that only get a few cents for their content.
And this one here gets over 1000??? Sorry.....

There should be some kind of regulation or limit in voting...
Or anything else. But this is not what its ment to be.

I´ll keep posting and commenting.... but sometimes... I think to myself... WTF???

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lazylag (25) · 7 years ago

this is the best post, you have to write more when you are drinking mode m8, and yes what i see where in steam in few days or weeks i have is louds of scams, and selfishness, all most 20 years ago when i start to hear about blockchain and is potential the 1 thing that catch in my mind this is a game changer, the immediately 2 thought as in 15 years we gona see that really people can't do better.
And one more time in 3 generations we ill give control to the master of puputs, no other generations 4 to be precise have 3 game changes in their lives, and opportunity to be together as united to take control from corporations, bankers, and Fundations. And one more time what we do? sacming, expeculation, take advantage from others.
20 years ago i as making our participating in designed study about excellence and mediocrity for Oxford University with more 120 people from all areas, this study as a propose to understand better the reasons of big corporations contract people that put world on edge of a bankruptcy and difficult situation, the iden and true reason as to see how is the real demancion of control and why some as not possible to control and how to do it.
So as find that 2/3 of humanity is medicucrecy and 1/3 is on excelency this as 20 years ago, so you can see very clearly the results of this work.
Blockchain as designed and the tester our the catcher this time as digital currency, we have 2 at best expectations 4 years for all of this get in the hands the real people that have a real and practical agenda.
Unfortunately one more time people are so blind with the little greed that cant see the opportunity they lost in all 2016/2017.
So yes unfortunately steam is not what as designed to be is just one more elethis thing for scammers, greed people andsome desapointed belivers

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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mrsomeone (36) · 7 years ago

He doesn't make it better with his picture lol

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

You don't want people to upvote too much and you do not want people to downvote too much? Why not combine those two things? If somebody upvotes too much, then why not downvote them too much to fix it? The market is all about supply and demand, right? I do not like regulation. I want more freedoms which can be used for good and for bad and life requires both, the Ying and the Yang.

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

Because, it's impossible for both sets of votes to have the same affect. Take for example, haejin. With the cash flow he has, he can downvote any comment til the point it won't be seen. It would take multiple wealthy accounts to get it shown again. Accounts with little sp cant do anything against that. As it t stands right now, there is no balance.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

If you want balance, you have to get more SP or a bunch of people to counter downvotes and upvotes. I believe in becoming the change, the revolution, that you desire in the world.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

Right said Fred

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doelist (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

I have idea how to make this situation a little bit better. I've worked on this idea for 3 months. Hope I launch it soon.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

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mrbearbear (54) · 7 years ago

Jesus, he's pushing it even more?!?

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crypto2crypto (63) · 7 years ago

It is what it is. Broken system creates broken players.

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Agree

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Exactly. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

socky (72) · 7 years ago

@jerrybanfield, we need both STEEM and SBD on a major multilingual exchange. Right now we have Bittrex (English Only) and Upbit (Korean Only). Binance doesn't count since they don't support SBD. Poloniex and HitBTC have disabled the STEEM and SBD wallets and don't seem to want the business. This has been going on for months.

Both STEEM and SBD are extremely undervalued because they are just not available everywhere like other currencies are. Other currencies have a staff that is aggressively pursuing every avenue to get their currency listed on many exchanges. I don't know if that this is the same for STEEM/SBD. I get the feeling that the approach is a Field of Dreams "Build it and they will come". With the massive amount of competition, I don't believe an approach like that will prevail.

Can you help support getting the right persons to fill out this form to get STEEM and SBD listed on KuCoin?http://kucoinform.mikecrm.com/tAssDWK

We also need Poloniex and HitBTC to stop holding the STEEM and SBD wallets hostage. Do you know what, if anything, is being done?

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mysearchisover (70) · 7 years ago

I like your constructive reply. I upvoted you. I think you should use some bots and try and rise to the top of this comment section. Please! lol

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Agree with you .. I will sign it myself. If you have it in a special post , I willing resteeem it.

socky (72) · 7 years ago

Check this one out. The last week, the focus was Cobinhood. At least with that one, anyone can fill out the form. You don’t need to be a STEEM executive. https://steemit.com/steemit/@socky/you-can-boost-the-price-of-steem-and-sbd#comments
Thank you for asking and the support!

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Thank you so much for your link

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Gr8 link

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silentworld (52) · 7 years ago

@socky , your comment is specified and pointed,very good job bro.

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mysearchisover (70) · 7 years ago

FYI there is a .02 minimum payout on earnings so right now you basically wasted an upvote on yourself.

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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voicedream (47) · 7 years ago

Click the Play button below and start listening to the audio version of this article.

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

WOW .. great service ... it’s a hidden gem 💎 how brilliant idea I think could benefit more inere written articles which has no video embedded!
Respect ✊

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albanian (36) · 7 years ago

@Jerrybanfied,

You sound like a timeshare sales agent and it was a waste of time to read all your 25 "reasons" that actually put some cloud on real value of steemit as a compeeting platform of free speech. By referring to Bitcoin as "inferior " you expose yourself of a very shallow knowledge about it and seriously shattered my confidence to rely on your opinions for anything else that I would seek education for....

If you really want to inform your readers about steem stick at the values that steem has unique compared to any other crypto including Bitcoin.
Usability is not enough to make steem better than Bitcoin. Water is even more useful than all things you are talking here but it's abundant. SCARCITY is what you have forgotten here and I know that you keep doing videos from at least a year ago so that makes me thinking even for your integrity...

Homework :

Research the Bitcoin and Steem thoroughly, then come up with the best of both.
Please explain to all readers why would we need another crypto here at steem and what would make bitcoins unsuitable for payments within steem?

I will be happy to see your evolved reasons that by reading them would benefit the newcomers AND yourself for delivering better content.

I apologize for my harsh tone and limited English.

Love you back...:-)

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago (edited)

And that's the problem with @jerrybanfield. Not only does he SOUND like a "timeshare sales agent" that's how EVERYONE perceives him and perceives Steem/Steemit because of HIM (except all of the ignorant sheep you see sucking up to him below).

He's just another scammy nobody who appeals to the sheep, his time will come here, just like it did with the DASH community...

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10 votes

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

What is Jerry’s history with Dash? Did he hire the lady in the g-string to promote the Dash N’ Drink branded soda pop dispensing machine? Many of us were writing about how Dash is a scam, but I wasn’t tracking the personalities involved with Dash other than when I inadvertently gave Dash creator Evan Duffield the idea for masternodes (after I inadvertently caused the Darkcoin price decline with my comments) and when I later rebuked him and discovered a high school level probability math error in their InstantX security calculations.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

Yes, but there is always a chance, or let KARMA tackle it.

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mrsomeone (36) · 7 years ago

The people sucking up are hoping for that sweet sweet whale upvote.

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toshlenoir (37) · 7 years ago

Are you going to be running for office again in 2020?

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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introvert-dime (67) · 7 years ago

Every crypto has its own place. Steemit cant replace bitcoin because its not as secure and decentralised as bitcoin.

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wf9877 (69) · 7 years ago

Steemit is good, but I don't think so

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

[…] but I don't think so

Your skepticism is well founded. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal.

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gold84 (63) · 7 years ago

Hi @jerrybanfield ! Your post is great including several of the most important live projects on the steem blockchain!

It would have been great to have as item 26, the @steem-ambassador guild and #promo-steem which as you know it is rewarding steem promoters/voluntarysts around the world who are spreading the word about the blockchain and onboarding thousands of users to the blockchain.

I even made a recent post for Steem Ambassadors - Have you Considered Voting for @lukestokes.mhth and @jerrybanfield as Witnesses - They are the 2 Witnesses Supporting the @steem-ambassador Guild for Now

Looking forward to your thoughts!

Regards, @gold84

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Never heard of any of The two , but would really worth loo No into them. Thanks for increasing my knowledge 🙏🏼

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starkerz (65) · 7 years ago

Agreed @gold84 ;)

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gold84 (63) · 7 years ago

Great we realized about the same thing @starkerz !
Regards, @gold84

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reko (70) · 7 years ago

3rd that! ;)

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windytram (25) · 7 years ago

vote

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nrbchowdhury333 (25) · 7 years ago

https://steemit.com/dmania/@nrbchowdhury333/a-beautiful-song-or-beautiful-dance-zg1hbmlh-dclxa
@starkerz
@windytram
plz vote me bro

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mvillegas2 (31) · 7 years ago

Hello! I find a lot of interest in your comment. I did not know there was a program, if that's what you'd call it, that rewards people for promoting steem. I, myself, have brought about 5 new users to the steem platform. How does one join? I would like some information if you wouldn't mind sparing some time to show me the way.

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lauram (54) · 7 years ago

completely agree with you, @ gold84.

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silentworld (52) · 7 years ago

yes,I'm agree with you bro, @gold84, his post included several important topics and very ,much informative

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julisavio (69) · 7 years ago

Greetings, Great Jerry

I do not understand you as much as you do about this blockchaim technology. But reading your writing, I'm very excited about it.

I had a little bit of money invested in bitcoin and other altcoins. I took all of their money and bought steem power, so I think of steemit as a way to work and I'm really investing here.

I'm very grateful for your idea of steem overcoming bitcoin, because, I imagine that all members of this community will be gratified, both for the increase of steem value and for the number of people that will enter here !!!

Thank you and good night!

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

I wish you will not remain highly misinformed. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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litupro (57) · 7 years ago (edited)

Do you really have any idea what are you talking about? The purpose of Steem and Bitcoin is totally different. You could compare between BTC vs Dash or some coin that serve similar purpose.

And look at your upvote value.. Don't you think it's pure self promotion? I saw a lot of blog post that got thousands of view but not a single reward. If steem wants to be no 1 platform for bloggers then it should change the way it rewards people.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

If steem wants to be no 1 platform for bloggers then it should change the way it rewards people.

Your skepticism is well founded. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign. I explain the flaws in the rewards algorithm.

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redeyes (65) · 7 years ago

thank you for posting

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doctalk (55) · 7 years ago

Thanks @jerrybanfield for a clear and upfront analysis. I have literally asked people (thousands) to look into the usage of steem blockchain . If utility drives the position then steem is already at number1 . The price is a market dynamic and i think that will soon catch up . Thanks again for wonderful work. I have done witness vote to you as well . Keep doing the amazing work.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks @jerrybanfield for a clear and upfront analysis.

You’re easily fooled I see. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

SHAME ON YOU JERRY!!

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

SHAME ON YOU JERRY!!

Your skepticism is well founded. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal.

rumonk11 (0) · 7 years ago

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cortexx (57) · 7 years ago

steemit is already works as a platform we are seeing people actively posting and getting reward, and steemit is the largest transaction in cryptocurrencies. :)

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

I wish you will not remain highly misinformed. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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sirstacksalot (63) · 7 years ago

That would be nice.

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pouchon (70) · 7 years ago

That would be sweet and rewarding for all steemians that stick around and understand the value of steem.

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lasna (50) · 7 years ago

steemit will take over social media in a few years

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stimialiti (60) · 7 years ago

I doubt that Steem will exist by 2021.
If it will exist by then, both Bitcoin and Steem will barely bu usable by then.
Bitcoin's infrastructure's weaknesses were starting to show by late 2017.
With Steem, the problem is with its interfaces - on steemit.com this thread is practically not browseable, and the other interfaces charge their customers dearly, taxing their income, not only their profits.
My computer acts similar to POW mining when I open such steemit pages in it.
I am barely able to type this text.
In the wallet/transfers it is the same problem.
The STEEM blockchain with its excessive amount of spam is also unsustainable.

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proffit (58) · 7 years ago

You got a 16.67% upvote from @proffit courtesy of @stimialiti!

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luckyvotes (38) · 7 years ago

You got a 12.50% upvote from @luckyvotes courtesy of @stimialiti!

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sleeplesswhale (39) · 7 years ago

You got a 15.17% upvote from @sleeplesswhale courtesy of @stimialiti!

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josteem (58) · 7 years ago

That’s hilariously amazing

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cloudbuster (53) · 7 years ago

what a fat juicy up-vote XD

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elizahfhaye (68) · 7 years ago

When these projection or i may call it prophesy of @jerrybanfield come into fruition, then its party time for the steemit world!

I cant wait for it to happen. 😊
From now on, lets do our best to accumulate more steem and be financially free come 2021 😉

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

You’re easily fooled I see. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

josteem (58) · 7 years ago

Agree 100%

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Hi Jerry,
I don't have time to address all 25 points. But I would offer a few observations:

Yes, we are approaching 1,000,000 accounts. But we still only have a bit over 60,000 active per day.
Of the accounts that are active, we don't really know how many of them are genuine human bloggers aiming to produce the kind of content that will bring people here. As I've discussed elsewhere recently, there are rings of mutually-upvoting spam that involve many thousands of accounts per ring. I'm not experienced enough in pulling data from the blockchain (yet), but I think 1% of all accounts being semi-automated spam producers would be a conservative estimate. If they are all relatively active, then they could be a large chunk of our 'active' accounts. So maybe it's more like 50,000 active users.
Anecdotally, I've seen a large upswing in new accounts that really only exist to game the system, whether by automated means or not - usually through mutual upvoting or using low-effort comments or posts to farm bot votes.
The existence of bidbots is not necessarily a positive to either the economic or intellectual wellbeing of steemit. They potentially undermine both proof-of-brain and sweat equity. They also make delegation to community projects such @curie and @comedyopenmic less attractive. What's your plan for when these bots have absorbed the majority of the SP?

I think you understand the Steem economy quite well, but I'm not convinced you are being totally genuine. Our currencies need new money buying in to offset inflation and drive up demand. But we can't ever overtake bitcoin while the user base for steemit and all the other apps are so tiny. Nor can we overtake other social media with so few users. Eventually, this new money has to be buying ‘eyes on’ content. No corporate advertiser is going to risk tying up serious money in SP for a potential audience of 50,000.

I do not think we can survive in the long term if the majority of the community are all either bidbot investors or grifters. Sure, we can pump and dump plenty of times before anyone notices that all the actual content creators have left for another blockchain. But eventually, such a situation would come unstuck, and once the promise of new money dries up, it’s all over. In the interim, leasing to a bidbot is a great way to get liquid SBD or STEEM to sell, without the awkwardness of being seen to be powering down.

I could go on, but I have work to do that will earn me more than the few dollars I earn for the hours it takes to write a decent post.

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silentworld (52) · 7 years ago

very nice comment. your comment and thinking really good.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

@SamuelDouglas, yes, agreed, understood, I sympathize, empathize, with Steemit problems. I don't like bots. I don't like spam. However, Facebook has bots too, called Facebook Ads. Facebook is already making billions of dollars off of us humans globally each year.

Steemit at least lets some of us humans on earth make some money some of the time, and Steemit is not perfect but it might be a little better than whatever Facebook might be.

Would Steemit really be better without bots? My question is asking about the alternatives we may have in life. Can http://Gab.ai or maybe http://Minds.com do better than http://Steemit.com or what? I like Steemit and I think real humans can maybe someday, if not already, outnumber, outpower, the bots or whatever that sucks. Life is full of spam, scams, bad stuff, but some of the good people and good things in life can rise up out of that mess of storms towards rainbows maybe, just maybe, eventually, potentially, someday, right?

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Do accounts run humans outnumber bots on steemit? Absolutely!
Do accounts run by humans in order to post quality content outnumber accounts run by other humans that spam the network? I'm not so sure. I have seen one mutually-upvoting spam ring with over 7000 accounts. Do we really know how many more like that there are?

In any case, whether or not bots outnumber humans is the wrong question in a stake-weighted system. One account with a million SP is at least as influential as 100,000 accounts with 10 SP.

Would we be better off without bots? Probably, but that depends on whose measure for success you use. By purchasing votes from bots, minnows and plankton are fooled into thinking that the enormous divide in wealth that exists here isn't at all to their benefit.

As things stand, without bots we'd be begging whales for votes. But wouldn't getting a $10 vote be better if you didn't have to pay $9 for it. The whale who delegated the SP required could have not made the delegation, and just given you the upvote. But why would they do that when we tolerate them setting up a system where we now pay for something that they could give away for free if they wanted. If you are an investor who does not worry too much about the future, what we have right now is working just fine.

Steemit is better than so many alternatives. But it can't just be slightly better. People won't abandon their personal social networks and existing economic thinking for what we have here right now.

I'm not being negative for the fun of it either. I'd love for STEEM and sbd be worth so much that I could just hang out on steemit all day and make some decent coin off my writing. But unless we address what is happening, right now, I cannot see that ever happening. Even free-marketeers who are fans of bidbots, such as @yallapapi can see that.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Do accounts run by humans outnumber bots on steemit? Absolutely!

Any proof? I highly doubt that. There are 8000 signups per day probably nearly all of them are sockpuppets to take SP from the STINC faucet for the benefit of insiders. Then those employed to upvote content of the cartel so they continue mint new SP to replace the STEEM they’re dumping in exchange for BTC. Continuously cashing out and minting more to replenish the swindle.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

I think we may have crossed wires a little in our definitions of 'bots' - I was being more strict on the automation side - but if we use it to broadly to mean partially automated sock-puppet accounts, then yes, you are correct. They are certainly there to take SP from the faucet though not all operations require that SP.

Insiders? STINC insiders? I know @themarkymark implied that recently, but I was beginning to wonder. What's the benefit of minting new SP at the same time as dumping STEEM? Is it to artificially boost some market indicator? I'll have to think this over in the morning, when I'm less sleep-deprived.

I was thinking about market manipulation as we approach the launch of SMT's. There's a question that, AFAIK, no one has asked @ned. I'm not going to bust it out quite yet - but I'll just say this: I suspect that for SMTs to be attractive to investors, STEEM needs to not experience any precipitous falls.

(Sorry of this makes no sense - too tired to internet).

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

What's the benefit of minting new SP at the same time as dumping STEEM?

If I am not mistaken, the STINC faucet doesn’t mint new SP. It distributes SP they already own to new accounts. The purpose of distributing these to sockpuppets would be to obscure the fact that these sockpuppets are being employed to upvote their own content which pay rewards to the same entity. So in this way a large portion of the minted rewards end up in the pockets of this entity. This helps replenish STEEM that is being constantly dumped for BTC.

Regarding SMTs, the white paper is blatantly pointing out that one goal is to drive more demand for STEEM. And of course what is not spoken but is obvious to astute observers is that the issuers of an SMT can then duplicate this corruption that STINC is allegedly doing, siphoning off BTC continuously while surreptitiously capturing most of the rewards for themselves.

The fly in the ointment for these clever nincompoops, is that the entire rewards ruse is (as admitted in the Steem whitepaper) predicated on the psychology of fooling most participants into doing more effort than they’re equitably compensated for. Thus the success of SMTs is predicated on fooling the users and investors into believing this ruse. I doubt that non-crypto traditional social media sites can get the same enthusiasm from their users for this type of “proof-of-brain” rewards system as is the case for Steem. People come to Steem because they believe in the ruse. Thus I conclude that the SMTs will not be able to obtain sufficient interest except for new ICOs for new projects targeted to crypto audiences. Remember the early adopters of Steem were via word-of-mouth (bfs to their gfs) via those who (bfs) were already very enthusiastic and invested in crypto.

The whitepaper of Steem admits that the “proof-of-brain” reward system depends on being able fool most of the users into doing more effort than they will be equitably rewarded.

P.S. hope you caught up on your sleep. I’m experience that often also.

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samueldouglas (54) · 7 years ago

Aha, so it's a way of covertly converting their enormous wad of SP in to cold hard bitcoin without powering it all down.

The whitepaper of Steem admits that the “proof-of-brain” reward system depends on being able fool most of the users into doing more effort than they will be equitably rewarded.

Yes, the ruse. I had a few socialist friends when I was an undergraduate. I never read as much Marxist theory as probably should have (as a philosophy academic), but I did have enough intoxicated discussions of economics with those guys to reasonably channel what their take on the ruse would be - that it's not unlike the treatment of labour under capitalism in general. Now, I don't know if I'd go this far, but it does seem that people with the most ardent, but least critical, belief in free-market economics are those mostly likely to be taken in by this strategy.

It was that sort of thing I was thinking about when I responded to @littlescribe regarding our good friend Jerry Banfield - tldr; I suspect some of the ways he talks up the steemit community are intended to present us as 'bag-holders' to a certain class of prospective investors and/or condition us to exhibit that behaviour.

As for the SMTs - anyone with half a brain must be able to see that they are indeed intended to drive demand for STEEM. What mystifies me is that people see this as an endorsement of the success of steemit and DTube etc. I think it could be reasonably interpreted as just the opposite. While I (hopefully) have your attention, I may as well as voice the question that I can't let go of: What happens to the value of an SMT (or all SMTs) if the value of STEEM drops ?

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

There are probably interactions/dependencies between STEEM price and SMTs but I don’t have time to study the intricacies of that. The SMT whitepaper is not well written. Obviously who ever is writing that is not a PhD, lol.

My high-level interest is whether there can be significant demand for the STEEM “proof-of-brain” rewards paradigm on traditional social media websites that want to monetize their userbase? My thought is that their users must have the ideological enthusiasm of Steemians and also there must be sufficient economy-of-scale interest in each specific SMT token. Why not just buy STEEM instead of the SMT since it is the common denominator for all SMTs? Any social media site that is larger than STEEM would build their own system and not leverage SMT.

Thus I think the SMT is some sort of hype vehicle and perhaps another way to obscure sock puppets and other manipulations. I would have to dig into the intricacies of the SMT design to ferret out all the obfuscated game theory.

Let me say for the record that I don’t know whom at STINC is corrupted. I have no way of knowing if Ned is just a pawn and if he really believes they are developing great technological solutions. Ned’s video at the SMT website actually makes some astute points that are in the design I am working on. Most of those guys may actually believe that SMT can take over the Internet. Also perhaps they have some connections to significant traditional social networks that I don’t know about.

I claimed the market analysis for SMT is dubious, but I also realize there’s some unknowns so I can’t outright claim it will fail.

randohealer (41) · 7 years ago

Wololo!

(RandoHealer has healed this post because your blog was targeted for healing due to malicious downvotes!)

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pastzam (55) · 7 years ago

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

Agreed, focus on the love over the hate.

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davidconstantine (54) · 7 years ago

I really like steem...
But steem's mega inflation making it not a good currency.
But of course a good social network, till the user base growth is bigger than inflation.

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nicholas83 (56) · 7 years ago

While I do agree that steemit is a wonderful platform, don't you think this is pushing it a bit? Furthermore, steemit and BTC perform two completely different functions. It sounds like comparing apples to oranges.

Extoling the virtues of steemit is fine, but then to copare the two seems a bit dubious.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Why is Steem a wonderful platform and not a scam? I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign. I wish to read your reply after you read all the facts I have accumulated.

steemit-abuse (8) · 7 years ago (edited)

FUCK THIS SHIT WON'T BE HELPING ANYMORE WITH SHIT LIKE THIS GOING ON!!! THIS IS ABUSE AT THE HIGHEST FUCKING LEVEL ON STEEMIT. @HAEJIN SHOULD BE FUCKING FLAGGING THIS MOTHER FUCKER RIGHT NOW!!!

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steemflagrewards (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

Steem Flag Rewards mention comment has been rejected. This does not meet our criteria for bid bot abuse / misuse, @steemit-abuse.

This post was submitted via our Discord Community channel. For questions / concerns, contact us at the
SFR Discord

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago

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steemflagrewards (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

A certain somebody used the service for a purpose for which it was not intended. Their approval rights have been revoked until further notice and unvote / comment edit will follow.

We do have people flag bid bot abuse on posts that would be considered junk without much contention but this obviously does not meet that criteria. (i.e. that pizza guy for example.)

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skycornish (55) · 7 years ago

I think STEEM could be a top 5 or top 10 crytpo for the long term, but nothing can replace BITCOIN!!

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voiloo (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

i agree with you ! power steemmm

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mysearchisover (70) · 7 years ago

Nice pump! You should do this every week. :) Good job! You deserve every penny you earned on this post.

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sstf11 (59) · 7 years ago

Thanx for your research :-)

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funkit (60) · 7 years ago

Fuck you Jerry. You made my friends poor by your greed.

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businesswri (62) · 7 years ago

So dumb, Steem is not going to replace Bitcoin at #1 spot. If you really believe that, you must be delusional. I'm sorry, but I can't see it happening

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dirge (62) · 7 years ago

When researchers look back on Steemit, they'll mark this post as the day it began to die.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Indeed and well put.

It died, because he is actually illuminating the fact that Steem is and was designed to be a scam.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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soundlegion (72) · 7 years ago

absolutely fantastic to see your energy pumping the steem name in this way my friend. Steem has huge potential and all your points just give me chills for the future. huge love and thanks jerry for the hard work and effort you put in to really help make steemit successful

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

absolutely fantastic to see your energy pumping the steem […]

Pump and dump.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

arifulbipul (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

Indeed its a great article which definitely help the whole steemit community .here you have cleared the future of steemit.it will inspire us for keep growing with this community.keep rocking , & keep helping us like this .

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

How are you so sure his comments are accurate? I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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bluewinter (57) · 7 years ago

What a good future!

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slider2990 (63) · 7 years ago

Everyone needs to get on board with advertising steem. Let's each work to get 3 people signed up and then use exponential growth as those 3 will each sign up three. It will be like an MLM that actually works for everyone. The more people using steem the more valuable everyone's account will become :). Let's do this!

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energyaddict22 (62) · 7 years ago

This post is no better than a Haejin post. A bunch of feel goodism that pays well. I love it. It is pure entertainment. The comments are so much better than the post. I didn't even need to get drunk to read this. Reality tv has nothing on a useless Jerry post. Wow! 2K to tell us what we want to hear. I love Steemit. Where else do we get an opportunity like this. Congrats Jerry. Buy your wife a new car or some shit. You deserve it.

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inmylife (67) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi Jerry, here is a summary of your post in Chinese.
Thank you for writing such a wonderful and informative article, hope more people will read it.
https://steemit.com/steem/@inmylife/4offuu-steem

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itstime (60) · 7 years ago

I learnt one thing for sure...Dlive buffers much faster than Dtube.

Did anyone else notice the same thing?

#bufferinghell #dtube

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Does Dlive keep videos that lack enough upvote money? Does Dlive keep videos forever? Some people say Dtube videos are removed after a month if they don't make about ten cents or something and all Dtube videos are taken down after about 52 months maybe if they are not fed more money to the creators or to the video storage servers or something.

Not sure if these details are true but I wonder if Dlive is the same as Dtube in those regards assuming those things are true.

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Steem is flawed because it provides no monetization for content serving. And Dtube appears to have leveraged that flaw into an excuse to monopolize. Thus the benefits of Dtube are exaggerated.

aleph (34) · 7 years ago

awesome posts ... thanks

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itstime (60) · 7 years ago

No idea

silentworld (52) · 7 years ago

same here@itstime

cryptocoinkb (70) · 7 years ago

Hell of a job, Jerry! Your research is extensive and very much appreciated. The smart media token looks like it has the potential to accelerate the growth of Steem in new and exciting ways. I'm looking forward to the ride! :)

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Are you qualified to analyze marketing plans? You claim SMT will be a great success. I have a different analysis.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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rafalski (66) · 7 years ago

Your post & reward is proof that Steem will NEVER replace bitcoin.

ohboy (42) · 7 years ago

That's it, actions speak louder than words, the proof is in the pudding.

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grizgal (55) · 7 years ago

whilst many people think that bitcoin will be replaced at number 1, I dont see why it will be Steem that does it. It’s far more likely to be EOS, which is already the 5th/6th largest crypto by market cap and doesn’t launch for 2 months. I think that @dan learnt a lot through the development of Steemand carried that through into EOS.

I also disagree that the use of promotion bots is a good thing. Bots will kill Steem/ Steemit.

joy69 (59) · 7 years ago

Thanks @jerrybanfield . All time your post help my work . I follow your ewery post . Its help my work . Your content information is good . Thanks for share this information .

folkoff (36) · 7 years ago

What dfk, are u taking bout. This is the most stupid post on Steemit, The only thing this prove is that we can buy ourselfs the way to the top. banfield is a shill.

ayahlistic (41) · 7 years ago

I agree to that @jerrybanfield is a key player on steemit. Thanks for post

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

He's a KEY FUCKING SCUMBAG!!!

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silentworld (52) · 7 years ago

Yes@joy69, he plays an important role in steemit platform.

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steemero (63) · 7 years ago

Transaction time per sec is a tremendous advantageous feature of Steem.

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murda-ra (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

First of all,

STOP CREATING FUD @everyone!

Second of all,

@jerrybanfield is an active witness of Steem Blockchain. That means he is being rewarded/paid by Steem blockchain in its own currency.
His "long and annoying" post is actually quite extensive and detailed Witness Update with listed dApps around #Steem is what 70% of #BitShares Witnesses never do (even that is actually part of their job/role of an active witness).

Third, and final for this topic,
Promoting content and paying upvote bots for it, is contribution to Steem. Steem does take fee from each and every post, and making posts to have greater Payouts, means Steem gets more tokens back to the blockchain so the funds are not being taken out completely from the blockchain.

I would appreaciate if community of a Steem would consider to take a bit less "passive-aggressive" and personal-based approach towards people/accounts/posts it doesn't like. There is a proper Flag button for following the rules and reporting someone who doesn't.

As far as i'm concerned, man is doing what he is paid for and should be cheered for it.

Cheers!

Luci

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

As far as i'm concerned, man is doing what he is paid for and should be cheered for it.

Cheered for disseminating deception to keep the greater fools coming in? Yeah I guess so. Good point.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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getsome3000 (44) · 7 years ago

No way any token will overtake BTC!

shockmeee (37) · 7 years ago

I initially thought the headline was ridiculous -- Steem will never surpass Bitcoin.
But reason #2 is too big to ignore!
Following the link to http://www.blocktivity.info/ and seeing how HUGE Steem usage is compared to the other top currencies is jaw-dropping.
Blockchain activity isn't the ONLY indicator of value, but it's very important. With Steem towering over all other blockchains by usage, I have a whole new respect for it!

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

You’re easily fooled I see because #2 is a deception. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Agreed, Steem is the biggest competitor to Bitcoin, at least potentially, if not already, as it is a hybrid cryptocurrency social blockchain network which Bitcoin does not seem to already have yet as far as I know and the other top 2 competitors to Steemit as far as I know are http://Minds.com and http://Gab.ai but Steem does seem to be better than Minds and Gab currently, right?

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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coinkaka (57) · 7 years ago

great expectations indeed. Steem is a revolutionary concept to replace traditional social media

el-morenza (49) · 7 years ago

There would always be haters to criticize a man's work. @jerrybanfield did not use any of you haters money to promote his post and yet it burns you cos of reasons I don't care to understand. Very beautiful compilation Jerry.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Because it reflects the fact that Steem’s reward system is dysfunctional and not equitable.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

If you dig into all the links there and study, you will learn that Steem’s reward system is a Prisoner’s Dilemma game theory. And it forces everyone to defect once they realize the truth. Steem’s survival depends on deception.

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angela002 (47) · 7 years ago

so essential sir;thanks for share.its so useful information for all steemers i hope

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aphiso (51) · 7 years ago

And then came EOS... :P

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teenovision (52) · 7 years ago

If all the above holds true then can we start accumulating steem by selling other coins

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aishaali (53) · 7 years ago

Most awesome post about steemit.

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Most ~~awesome post~~[illuminating deception] about steemit.

ftfy.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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aishaali (53) · 7 years ago

Cool. I read it; gave you suggestions; and started following you.
Let me know when you launch your social media platform.
All the best.

badmusgreene (66) · 7 years ago

We can bring the time forward from 2021 to 2019.If we can get the entertainment industry,ecommerce and others to adopt steemit as their go-to social media app and how it can help them.

gamernoob (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

Jerry... why did you spend so much on this post? If I saw you on Fortnite I'd swing my pick axe right at your balding head.

Edit: and I chose pick axe because I always suck at finding loot.

jassi (60) · 7 years ago

lets see what happen steem will replace btc or not

yoda1917 (55) · 7 years ago

You are the Legend of Steem my man :) . Respect

tank0923 (31) · 7 years ago

I am new. Can you up vote me to see what does it feels like? Thanks much appreciate it

kywt (64) · 7 years ago

I think steem will do great but I am positive it will never dethrone bitcoin. Sorry to say

richartuptown007 (25) · 7 years ago (edited)

He dont gives a faq, just look hes face, lookin like a ahole ready to get some smackdowns because b.tchmoves. writing garbage and paying bots for tryng to pump, what a ahole lol

praise-eu (67) · 7 years ago

This is awesome post @jerrybanfield. An encouragement for the minnows to patiently keep keeing on on steemit. Thank you for your great strides. Looking up.

extraterrestrial (53) · 7 years ago

If I could give this 1,000,000 upvotes I would! Out of this world post! Absolutely perfect post and 25 reasons! I LOVE the GREAT STEEMIT COMMUNITY! More and more individuals are realizing the true power of both STEEM and STEEMIT! I'm telling everyone I know on this planet about STEEM and STEEMIT! People like @jerrybanfield make STEEMIT so SPECIAL and GREAT! It is truly the Caring Social Network! Joining STEEMIT is the VERY best thing that I have ever done for myself. STEEMIT is giving People a source of an income, connecting great People and giving People hope! STEEM is backed by the GREAT STEEMIT COMMUNITY! All the VERY best my Friends! Positive Energy! Great Karma! I'm VERY proudly resteeming, commenting, upvoting and following! Your Friend and Teammate @extraterrestrial :)

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

What are you smoking? Do you ever come back into reality?

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

hennessy (57) · 7 years ago

very encouraging post. GO JERRY !!!

instatrashed (53) · 7 years ago

I totally agree Jerry. Steem is the best use case of a cryptocurrency that there is. It's fast, easy, social.. the list goes on as you wrote in your post. It's hard for me to not be all-in on Steem, especially when I get curration rewards, etc. I will say this. I will be adding to my Steem bag much more than I will be adding to any other alt coin right now.

dogimage (47) · 7 years ago

Definitylly not in a current form of this platform.

hilarski (76) · 7 years ago

Blaspheme!

majibullah (60) · 7 years ago

I also think so that steemit will repl replace bitcoin by 2021

nitego (52) · 7 years ago

There does not appear to be any significantly new information here. The first move advantage you claim steemit has seems to have been taken over by bots. Many here will gladly move to another platform designed to fix this and give everyone a fair chance. It's painful to see bad content get all the votes and good content get nothing.

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

Agreed! I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago

2 alternatives to Steem may include Minds and Gab. So, it seems, there are at least those two alternative choices for people. People can go there if they don't like Steem, right?

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hawtescc (43) · 7 years ago

Absolutely. ..no question

kchiny (37) · 7 years ago

I Love this post. I am a blogger and I do believe so much in steemit. I have learned a lot from this community and I am so happy to be part of it. I love point 19 about self promoting. Your points are really detailed

donskoy (33) · 7 years ago

I do have to say that even if Steemit definitely has some of the advantages listed in the article, I have to say some of the negative comments do have merit. It's a little dispiriting for a new guy like myself to see people upvote themselves and earn hundreds while the rest of us participate because we enjoy writing and sharing our thoughts.

anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

The original whitepaper of Steem admitted that the system is designed to fool users into exerting more effort than they are equitably rewarded. I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

I enjoy writing too. Wish you the best. Upvoted.

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hanamana (60) · 7 years ago

Hello jerrybanfield,

Overtaking could happen sooner than 2021 depending on the growth of Steemit.com users and Steem and SBD price increases.

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steem-plus (73) · 7 years ago

Steem and Steemit or two different things

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eadiatu (49) · 7 years ago

Jerry. You have right to your kwn opinion. I strongly beleive in the future of steem too.

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eadiatu (49) · 7 years ago

Jerry Banfield is entitled too his own opinion. Lets remember that.

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promobot (60) · 7 years ago

Your purchased vote has been retracted for not following @promobot's Term of Services at available at https://steemit.com/promotion/@promobot/promobot-terms-of-service-v2

Reserve the right to retract an upvote if used to promote: Similar to @promobot vote promotion services.

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mightyblueberry (55) · 7 years ago

Wow, a bot service that actually has a bit of quality control, good for you.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago

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tradewithtechie (50) · 7 years ago

Could you please refund my 5 SBD, I did not get my upvote yesterday as my bid was moved for the following round bcz it was not 25 mins old but never got my upvote, Here is the link for my post - https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@tradewithtechie/btcusd-out-of-the-downward-channel-whats-next Appreciate if you can refund asap.

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promobot (60) · 7 years ago

We refunded you a bid for a vote that did not take place due to technical issue. Sorry for the inconvenient.

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tradewithtechie (50) · 7 years ago

it was on 04/18/2018 -

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oneherrera (45) · 7 years ago

if it is true the value that we add to it by having quality content, makes google search result in some publication of sttemit, I am proof of that, I joined sttemit looking for a tutorial and the best one I found was here and see the potential of the coin I joined

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

I appreciate your sharing of your experience in finding and joining Steem because it had the more relevant quality content returned in the listings for a Google search.

Note though I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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kyleperez117 (37) · 7 years ago

my case was similar

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yoyo13skate (40) · 7 years ago

me too

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quantalysus (60) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the post @jerrybanfield. I will agree with many comments in here that the curation system heavily leans towards those with massive amounts of Steem Power, bought or earned. I'd love to find a hedge, perhaps some sort of electoral system. House of reps votes with steem power, electoral where every voter has one equal vote.

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ambitiouslife (41) · 7 years ago

Some pretty good points there 🤔

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shoemanchu (69) · 7 years ago

This post might be the proof why Steem and Steemit will fall to bots and be worthless and never catch YouTube, Facebook etc.... Am I missing something here or is the integrity on this platform gone? Asking for a friend.....

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

The integrity never existed. It was admitted in the original Steem whitepaper.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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cryptosteve (45) · 7 years ago

To be Honnest, I never Expected you to promote this kind of post to the top posts here on the platform.. Because You are just out of logic,, and I believe all these people who upvoted your post are just stupid and do not even know what kind of info they upvoted for,.
1940 SBD worth of upvotes for a shitty post that tells nothing except shit is out of logic. I think there must be a real way to prevent these kind of INFO to be on the top.
Excuse my Logic
those people must be insane, or maybe

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heessuh (52) · 7 years ago

it is a bold prediction. many things have to go right before steem really takes hold.

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billythekid42 (25) · 7 years ago

I'm very new so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I find posts like this distasteful.

This is the highest voted post right now? Digg, Reddit, and other link aggregation sites didn't get big by claiming they were great, they got big by having a good user experience and interesting content.

This content isn't interesting. It's what's wrong with crypto right now, over promotion and useless content.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Steem was designed to befuddle and scam.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

jeffandhisguitar (66) · 7 years ago

I haven't got a bloody clue how to use it properly.. I thought people upvote good content, not pay for it yourselves,, how does an average user or minnow find the funds to promote their work?
My shit hardly gets proper votes and it's good original honest stuff..
:(

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Jeff there’s a reason why it doesn’t seem to work well for you. Because it was designed and premeditated to be a scam.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

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jeffandhisguitar (66) · 7 years ago

Ok mint, I will take a look.
Cheers.

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doomsdaychassis (63) · 7 years ago

dlive voted this trash at 20% is telling me they don't review shit. what a pathetic post that is vote boted to the front page. Absolutely disgusting. Over $2000 in rewards for this? steem will not surpass anything if people keep doing this scammy shit.

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cheapproperty (39) · 7 years ago

Yeah and I have made 13 episodes of minecraft lets plays not even showing up in the search and this guy get 2k and I get 0 go figure.

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lexiconical (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

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simmoney (32) · 7 years ago

Great post, great video, great personality. You just schooled me in a way very impressive like no other. I believe your assertions. Reasons been that in the economy of things, it is demand that drive the value of any currency. Steem is in real demand and as such its value will continue to go uphill particularly from the people and not just corporations. Thanks a lot for the insight.

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alph4 (25) · 7 years ago

Totally agreeing with your pint that steem with replace botcoin

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shihab1997 (47) · 7 years ago

very good post.

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hometownhero (27) · 7 years ago

I just love all the ideas, and the potential of the future of this platform. I am very new having just started a few days ago but from everything I'm learning I can't wait to grow with the community. Follow me and I'll gladly follow back! :)

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marvindean (42) · 7 years ago

1st coin to be back by gold in the world this is going be real big in the future to come https://www.karatbars.com/?s=repentful

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princepr (52) · 7 years ago

Good post sir,But why everyone is now back the trending page,There is really need to be limit of vote buying per day by bots which gives twice the amount we send,because every steem user is now just back of the trending page and buying votes from bots and pasting their post at high above the trending page,whenever we used to check the trending page and the highest vote came through it just shows some of the names of some bots which is very disappointing and minimising the changes of the posts which really deserves to be in trending page they just don't get the change not because there post is not deserving just because they can effort sbd's to promote it isn't it good and fair.
friends many steemians are now creating blogs on the major issue trending page and how steemians are running back after it to have their article at above friends from my side i can give some solution to the community which can minimise the problem and the updates should must do.
1)Limitation on vote buying it means here should be limit on votes buying per person per day,because bots boost the article by twice the amount we send.
2)Votes should not be count which are came through bots.
3)Comments and votes by steem user's should be count and on behalf of hat they should pass the article to the trending page.
4)Quality and the writing should must be check.
So,friends these are some of the points if this would be followed than i definitely think the problem will minimise.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Jerry’s post is deception and there’s no way to fix Steem.

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.

dig.bick (35) · 7 years ago

Steem replacing bitcoin? That is the most stupid statement I've heard in the cryptocurrency community.

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tonygreene113 (59) · 7 years ago

Do you still feel good about these 25 reasons you have pointed out?
Will you be making a follow-up video to the pluses and minuses of this.video.

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ismailadeel (31) · 7 years ago

This real and beautiful post .keep up the good work @jerrybanfield big big big big and big thumbs up and a resteem from my side best of luck Advance.

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anonymint (65) · 7 years ago

Deception is beautiful in your country?

I have written a point-by-point rebuttal of @‍jerrybanfield’s incorrect propaganda campaign.