#395 - ADAM VS THE MAN: Voting = Violence!? Private Police & Eating Dogs in Pyongcheang

Before I tend to the point beyond the 32:00min mark, I want to chime in on the voting = violence issue. People, we are dealing with America; presently a violent, occupied nation as a result of the Civil War. However by some level of Grace and Providential Mercy, we have the option of making changes to our "magisterium" by the ballot box rather than the bullet box... so at least the art of persuasion comes into play. We are NOT in an anarcho nation... and we are NOT in the position to purchase any significant part of America, either. At this point, I see y'all owning about 11 acres of dust in AZ. LOL So, register to vote so you can become a Juror. Then vote ONLY if you have a candidate who will deliver what you are looking for. Adam is it. You people WILL NEVER have a better representative of the AnarchoVol philosophy running for anything... And he will prove that to you once he is on that debate stage in 2020. Meanwhile, help him take over the LP. ...which will also require you to vote. LOL

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thoughts-in-time (64) · 7 years ago

1.) To vote is to consent to be governed by the victor.
2.) Government operates via the use of violence-&-force.
3.) If the victor uses violence they were empowered by your vote.

Q: Can the violence be violence, if one volunteered themselves to be subjected to it via their vote? Or is it a contract being fulfilled?

See: Consent of the governed
Keywords: when consented to by the people or society

I'm just thinking aloud here; I think the question is complex, and could be viewed in more ways than one. If government were to refuse to act forcibly upon those who did not participate in the voting process, then voting wouldn't be violence, because everyone subjecting themselves to the violence of government would have been a willing participant.

However, our government will immorally wage violence against people, regardless of their participation in the vote. This tends to puts some folks in a desperate position wherein they will vote as a plea for mercy.

If a woman were about to be raped, and knew she was going to be raped, and begged the rapist to wear a condom. By doing so, is she consenting to sex? Or just trying to avoid some of the potential consequences that might result from the rape?

When considering whether or not voting is violence, you have to consider the fact that government has many people in a state of Stockholm syndrome. That makes answering that question far less cut and dry.

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adamkokesh (73) · 7 years ago

This - on the podcast today too! Good way to get deep on this!

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tonystarkr (6) · 7 years ago

cool buddy😍😍

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funbobby51 (59) · 7 years ago

when we end the state I am going to have a horse and dog buffet.

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damon225 (39) · 7 years ago

Voting certainly undermines the whole voluntaryist/anarchist message. Jury Nullification is about as far as we should go in regards to getting involved with government.