If you Steemians can't understand this and understand what your supporting, you should seriously think about selling all of your cryto because Dapps doing things like this on our blockchain will ruin it in the long run for everyone here. Just my 2 cents......
While I agree 100% with you, if you don't like changes after people spent money, Drug Wars is 100x worse. They even went so far to stop giving people who spent money any rewards if they are tired of playing as they now shut off rewards and put accounts into "vacation" mode if you don't keep playing. The game is structured as a ponzi.
What really concerns me about Magic Dice the most is their "investor" is almost 300,000 Steem in the hole playing the game and makes my massive Magic token holdings look like a few coins found in my couch. I have a hard time believing he isn't receiving any of these loses back behind the scenes.
That sucks. I didn't realize that they shut off rewards and started putting people in vacation mode. I was hoping to be able to find someone who doesn't play anymore and use them as a faucet. Probably not going to happen now.
Yeah. Kind of curious about that because if their resources are still growing it makes me wonder what happens to their percentage of the drug share. If the rewards aren't getting paid out and their percentage stays the same then the rewards must be going somewhere. If their percentage drops to zero then it would put extra drugs in the game also screwing up the math. To keep their math working correctly they could dump the rewards from vacation mode into the heist but I really doubt that's what's going on. I imagine the Developers are just pocketing it.
I think they are just ignoring it all together once in vacation mode so it goes to both indirectly. No one who signed-up, signed-up under the impression they would stop getting rewards when they give up playing.
Wow thanks for this good information. Yesterday was my first day playing magic dice but I wish I had read your post first. Sorry to hear you got screwed.
The token will be created as an SMT (as soon as they will be available) and then listed on the available SMT exchanges, I believe. So it can take some time, unfortunately.
About the price: There will be no fixed price, but @themarkymark estimated that the tokens will be worth around 912.50 Steem per 1 million tokens.
I never got into magic dice but I appreciate the information that you're providing. It's good to know about these things. I agree that they shouldn't have changed the rules part way through. What's the point of creating a set of rules or a white paper if you're going to change it at another date in a way that best suits your current situation. I appreciate the fact that you are standing up for your own principles and values.
Oh that is not good. The word will get around that dApps on Steem, and therefore Steem itself will be considered dirty. That really hurts all the goodwill many of us are trying to get across on social media. Thanks for getting the word out.
You are all over it, and you are all about it Mr. Nutz! Throw that red flag. After listening to your video, you nailed it right on the head. "The steem block chain will be known for" ..... some Bull Shit! That really is what it all comes back to isn't it?
So much corruption out there and I commend you for shinning the light, and hopefully the cockroaches scatter! Keep up the great work my friend.
Slowly they screwing us. One after another, my friend.
They don't appreciate our good will, effort and risk we put in this platform.
But they peek at our wallets all the time and envy us.
I'm afraid that one day Steemit will do the same. Dilute our Steem Power.
Keep preaching.
@broncnutz, Not standing for something then standing for nothing so true brother. Truly i don't know what's going on and never played this game, but, good to see that you've putting your point and one thing is not fair and that is, changing the rules half way and we are in Decentralisation Economy and these kind of changes should be discussed with the community because at the end of the day Goodwill and Reputation is the thing. Stay blessed.
Yea you always run the risk of flags coming your way but what is right is right.....and if you support what is wrong than your greed is more important than the long term success of the blockchain.
Blaah... I played also when it was 25 tokens per 1 STEEM. I already lost something like 100 STEEM into this game, only reason being to accumulate tokens. Not going to play or resteem anything from them either out of principle, when they do questionable changes like this. Should've kept the rules as they are, or they should at the very least double the tokens of those who played at 25 and quadruple the tokens of those who played with the 12.5 distribution – those players are the ones being disregarded with these changes. We should hold these gambling apps to a higher standard and not ruin the credibility of our blockchain.
Glad I saw this video before doing anything stupid (resteeming), and thanks for stating your mind honestly.
I think they understood most people were playing to grind tokens. Tokens go down = people play less as they get more demotivated.
But wtf 5 million tokens every freaking day....I have 700k and they give out about 7 times every day + what the people grind out...sounds great for people like me....
Time to start downvoting posts they make perhaps? I would love to see a poker game (TX holdem, blackjack) on the blockchain. At least then when the house always wins it wont be so deceptive. I am happy I didn't get involved in the gambling games now. At least in the drugwars game you can talk to the developers and they have reputations to defend, so their feet are in the fire to build a good game.
I haven’t played magic dice before but I’ve seen a lot of blog posts about it. That does suck though for all of the people that worked hard to get some several hundred thousand tokens.
I have grinded through 300000 steem at 12.5 magic reward so these changes are a kick in the teeth, however it was clear to me that changes were needed as volume was really struggling. I feel most bad feeling could have been avoided with a simple disclaimer saying "magicdice is still in experimental mode and magic rewards may be changed in future"
That said magicdice does have some real promise and they do seem to be doing good work.
Enjoy your time playing......I’ll be here protecting the blockchain and it’s integrity for you and the rest of the people who don’t care about white papers gett g torn up and quantitative easing ushered in.wish more people cared about our blockchain.....sigh.
I make few comments that i disagree with this and it is not fair under they post and also on discord but i didnt get much support. some they told me that i should be happy that they offer this privilage🤔
By the way yes i still try to get some more tokens because i need to rise my account's vallue so i will be not a small fish if i share my opinion. But you are right in both cases with steembet and also with this.
Maybe in the future if i can grow my acc for more than 10k sp i will rise my voice more but now sad but this is not that time that i can do it.
I am on it to grow fast. The past week i bought around 2000 steem. Also collecting 3 different kind of tokens hope they will worth something.
But to tell you frankly even without this issues the blockchain is suffering. Maybe most of the people dont see but it is not like how it should be now.
The onboarding is not going well because everything is delegated to a bots or promo services. And like this we will have a hard time to grow more minnows or dolphins.
More SP holder will be good also for the price but the greedyness ruin this. Everyone care about the income but just few people with the onboarding and keeping the users here. Lil bit a same feeling like when you go to a store and no customers.
Just like drugwars... These game devs are flipping all over the place with the rules... It is definitely a let down to anyone who had been lead on to think and strategize differently. For me personally, STEEM has been a fun and exciting test of a very real and adoptable example of blockchain usage. Let’s keep things from getting overly corrupt with greed.
Let’s hop @moonsteem can see these events and not fall into these notions, the Dev team behind the game is working on V2 of moonsteem it does not look like they will be offering a type of coin which by the looks of it is a great move by them. The future looks bright for them.
I'm a little guy and I'm not mad. I'm back playing now trying to earn more tokens. I thought the leader board was a good way to get more whales battling for tokens. In the end, it will remain 7 billion tokens so I'm going to get as many as I can now
So your ok with anyone changing a token distribution and tearing up the white paper anytime they feel like it? It’s the same scam banks and the federal reserve pull on us right now. Satoshi would be so disappointed.....
Magicdice is great for those who made bots and play on small amounts all day to mine. They made this change to benefit the bot users. Once they get rid of 40 or 50% of the tokens, they will move on to the next venture after the players drop. It's an insane amount of money being spent there and you're absolutely right less people will play once you are only getting 6 tokens per Steem bet and dividends drop off a cliff.
At least they are better that SteemBet.
I didn’t tell anyone that MD was a “scam” I said actually that the game was fair and you weren’t gettin cheated BUT changing the rules for magic token was wrong to do to investors. What you posted above are my votes which most definitely is not a scam.....they are real votes. You should try getting some sometime. Oh you don’t post? You only re Steem to try and ride the backs of others? NothIng contribution at all to this blockchain???? Lol.....nice try troll, maybe you should cash in you 8 bucks in Steem Power and buy a hamburger because you suck as an “original content “ blogger.
I see the gown is starting to start with blockchain games. Reading actizations about moonstem I have doubted games. They change the rules because the rules are inconvenient for the home.
It was fun playing magic dice, its just getting messed up now. Greed is the coz of our downfall.
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Ha, the vote by them is pretty funny on this comment.
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It's unbelievable, I knew they would accidentally upvote a comment in this post. It's honestly really dumb that they waste their votes on comments...
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Bots. All just code following the rules set up at the start.
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Magic Dice has rewarded your post with a 55% upvote. Thanks for playing Magic Dice.
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While I agree 100% with you, if you don't like changes after people spent money, Drug Wars is 100x worse. They even went so far to stop giving people who spent money any rewards if they are tired of playing as they now shut off rewards and put accounts into "vacation" mode if you don't keep playing. The game is structured as a ponzi.
What really concerns me about Magic Dice the most is their "investor" is almost 300,000 Steem in the hole playing the game and makes my massive Magic token holdings look like a few coins found in my couch. I have a hard time believing he isn't receiving any of these loses back behind the scenes.
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That sucks. I didn't realize that they shut off rewards and started putting people in vacation mode. I was hoping to be able to find someone who doesn't play anymore and use them as a faucet. Probably not going to happen now.
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I suspect their resources still grow, they just can't make any rewards.
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Yeah. Kind of curious about that because if their resources are still growing it makes me wonder what happens to their percentage of the drug share. If the rewards aren't getting paid out and their percentage stays the same then the rewards must be going somewhere. If their percentage drops to zero then it would put extra drugs in the game also screwing up the math. To keep their math working correctly they could dump the rewards from vacation mode into the heist but I really doubt that's what's going on. I imagine the Developers are just pocketing it.
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I think they are just ignoring it all together once in vacation mode so it goes to both indirectly. No one who signed-up, signed-up under the impression they would stop getting rewards when they give up playing.
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Finally a voice of reason! Resteemed!
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Re-Steem this now and I’ll send you even MORE MAGIC DICE TOKENS!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 There is no Quantitative Easing allowed on a Blockchain Steemians!
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Wow thanks for this good information. Yesterday was my first day playing magic dice but I wish I had read your post first. Sorry to hear you got screwed.
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Apology accepted.
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Send it to me, sucker, you are a man of your word!
Resteemed anyway! !tip worthy advice!
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lol....ok dswigle.....magic tokens magically will appear soooooooon. just be ready
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As long as you don't throw them at me, I'm cool!
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How many dividends you get for 10K MagicDice though?
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Who cares....this is about principle to me.
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For you — of course; as for me — no, since I’m not an early player.
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Right.....which means you have no principles.
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About 0.07 Steem (But varies every day)
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Any idea when this token will be listed on any exchange and what will be the initial price?
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The token will be created as an SMT (as soon as they will be available) and then listed on the available SMT exchanges, I believe. So it can take some time, unfortunately.
About the price: There will be no fixed price, but @themarkymark estimated that the tokens will be worth around 912.50 Steem per 1 million tokens.
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I never got into magic dice but I appreciate the information that you're providing. It's good to know about these things. I agree that they shouldn't have changed the rules part way through. What's the point of creating a set of rules or a white paper if you're going to change it at another date in a way that best suits your current situation. I appreciate the fact that you are standing up for your own principles and values.
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Always do what's right.....even when nobody is looking.
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Oh that is not good. The word will get around that dApps on Steem, and therefore Steem itself will be considered dirty. That really hurts all the goodwill many of us are trying to get across on social media. Thanks for getting the word out.
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I always love your guts when you are talking
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You are all over it, and you are all about it Mr. Nutz! Throw that red flag. After listening to your video, you nailed it right on the head. "The steem block chain will be known for" ..... some Bull Shit! That really is what it all comes back to isn't it?
So much corruption out there and I commend you for shinning the light, and hopefully the cockroaches scatter! Keep up the great work my friend.
From Bali Indonesia! -Dan "World Travel Pro!"
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Slowly they screwing us. One after another, my friend.
They don't appreciate our good will, effort and risk we put in this platform.
But they peek at our wallets all the time and envy us.
I'm afraid that one day Steemit will do the same. Dilute our Steem Power.
Keep preaching.
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@broncnutz, Not standing for something then standing for nothing so true brother. Truly i don't know what's going on and never played this game, but, good to see that you've putting your point and one thing is not fair and that is, changing the rules half way and we are in Decentralisation Economy and these kind of changes should be discussed with the community because at the end of the day Goodwill and Reputation is the thing. Stay blessed.
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It takes guts to speak up. Well done!
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Yea you always run the risk of flags coming your way but what is right is right.....and if you support what is wrong than your greed is more important than the long term success of the blockchain.
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Blaah... I played also when it was 25 tokens per 1 STEEM. I already lost something like 100 STEEM into this game, only reason being to accumulate tokens. Not going to play or resteem anything from them either out of principle, when they do questionable changes like this. Should've kept the rules as they are, or they should at the very least double the tokens of those who played at 25 and quadruple the tokens of those who played with the 12.5 distribution – those players are the ones being disregarded with these changes. We should hold these gambling apps to a higher standard and not ruin the credibility of our blockchain.
Glad I saw this video before doing anything stupid (resteeming), and thanks for stating your mind honestly.
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Really you are giving a very good news sharing with us. Thank you For share his video...
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we are 2/3 so far (gambling dapps). not a great record.
The only positive thing I can see about this, is delegations.
If this would be an ICO, my ETH would be stuck there, with delegations I can just get my steem back and move on.
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its a shame....MD was really starting to earn trust. I can't play there ever again out of principle. I am a blockchain purest.
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I think they understood most people were playing to grind tokens. Tokens go down = people play less as they get more demotivated.
But wtf 5 million tokens every freaking day....I have 700k and they give out about 7 times every day + what the people grind out...sounds great for people like me....
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If you can't trust the casinos, who can you trust?
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Time to start downvoting posts they make perhaps? I would love to see a poker game (TX holdem, blackjack) on the blockchain. At least then when the house always wins it wont be so deceptive. I am happy I didn't get involved in the gambling games now. At least in the drugwars game you can talk to the developers and they have reputations to defend, so their feet are in the fire to build a good game.
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I haven’t played magic dice before but I’ve seen a lot of blog posts about it. That does suck though for all of the people that worked hard to get some several hundred thousand tokens.
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So you're saying you're gonna give us 10,000 Steem if we resteem this post? You're not gonna change the rules on us, right?
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Excellent review @broncnutz and you are right, we all need to pay attention to such things and think carefully about it!
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I have grinded through 300000 steem at 12.5 magic reward so these changes are a kick in the teeth, however it was clear to me that changes were needed as volume was really struggling. I feel most bad feeling could have been avoided with a simple disclaimer saying "magicdice is still in experimental mode and magic rewards may be changed in future"
That said magicdice does have some real promise and they do seem to be doing good work.
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Enjoy your time playing......I’ll be here protecting the blockchain and it’s integrity for you and the rest of the people who don’t care about white papers gett g torn up and quantitative easing ushered in.wish more people cared about our blockchain.....sigh.
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!bookkeeping s magicdice
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Hi @apone!
magicdice
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This post has been included in the latest edition of SoS Daily News - a digest of all the latest news on the Steem blockchain.
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Man! They did the same thing as steem bet!! 🤬
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It’s sick! And nobody really cares.....sad.
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I make few comments that i disagree with this and it is not fair under they post and also on discord but i didnt get much support. some they told me that i should be happy that they offer this privilage🤔
By the way yes i still try to get some more tokens because i need to rise my account's vallue so i will be not a small fish if i share my opinion. But you are right in both cases with steembet and also with this.
Maybe in the future if i can grow my acc for more than 10k sp i will rise my voice more but now sad but this is not that time that i can do it.
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I’ll be here just protecting YOUR blockchain for ya......hopefully by the time you earn 10k.....we still have a blockchain. 😏
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I am on it to grow fast. The past week i bought around 2000 steem. Also collecting 3 different kind of tokens hope they will worth something.
But to tell you frankly even without this issues the blockchain is suffering. Maybe most of the people dont see but it is not like how it should be now.
The onboarding is not going well because everything is delegated to a bots or promo services. And like this we will have a hard time to grow more minnows or dolphins.
More SP holder will be good also for the price but the greedyness ruin this. Everyone care about the income but just few people with the onboarding and keeping the users here. Lil bit a same feeling like when you go to a store and no customers.
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Good thing moonsteem ain’t pulling anything like this or issuing tokens. Let’s hope they are seeing these dapps unfold and not fall into their ways.
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Getting your post to trending without using bots and show how you care about steem and its investors. Kudos!
There's still hope for our chain. Thanks for your great service for the community🤘
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Congratulations @broncnutz!
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It's funny this game..
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Just like drugwars... These game devs are flipping all over the place with the rules... It is definitely a let down to anyone who had been lead on to think and strategize differently. For me personally, STEEM has been a fun and exciting test of a very real and adoptable example of blockchain usage. Let’s keep things from getting overly corrupt with greed.
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!bookkeeping drugwars
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Hi @moneysolong!
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First transfer was before 27.84 days.
Your ROI per day is 2.72 % and you are earning approx. 1.49 STEEM per day.
Break even in approx. 9.0 days.
ROI when taking only the last 5 days into account
Your ROI per day is 1.52 % and you are earning approx. 0.83 STEEM per day.
Break even in approx. 16.0 days.
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For sure if there are scammy games that will hurt the steem blockchain.Shared with my followers.
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i am seeing the trend and steem blockchain is super hot in gaming i am addicted to many dapps
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Let’s hop @moonsteem can see these events and not fall into these notions, the Dev team behind the game is working on V2 of moonsteem it does not look like they will be offering a type of coin which by the looks of it is a great move by them. The future looks bright for them.
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I have not been active in this game, maybe soon I will read on how this game works in your post
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I'm a little guy and I'm not mad. I'm back playing now trying to earn more tokens. I thought the leader board was a good way to get more whales battling for tokens. In the end, it will remain 7 billion tokens so I'm going to get as many as I can now
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So your ok with anyone changing a token distribution and tearing up the white paper anytime they feel like it? It’s the same scam banks and the federal reserve pull on us right now. Satoshi would be so disappointed.....
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Delegation removed ages ago.
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You could always give @steemluck a try. There aren’t billions of worthless tokens issued with that.
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https://d.tube/v/anukannan/fjt7g0ql
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Yes I was trying to accumulate the Magic tokens, and I've lost all my Pot more than many times gambling Magic dice.
Now with this dilution... it sucks
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I guess they saw all the positive feedback steem-bet was receiving and decided they want some, too.
We need a dice game that won't screw us. I'm waiting to see what @klye releases. He seems like an honest guy.
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Magicdice is great for those who made bots and play on small amounts all day to mine. They made this change to benefit the bot users. Once they get rid of 40 or 50% of the tokens, they will move on to the next venture after the players drop. It's an insane amount of money being spent there and you're absolutely right less people will play once you are only getting 6 tokens per Steem bet and dividends drop off a cliff.
At least they are better that SteemBet.
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It wasn't even worth using the resource credits to resteem, so I didn't. Everyone who should want to know about Magic Dice by now surely already does.
The "redistrubution" of token distribution is a decision they've made, and I agree that it's not great for early users of the platform.
I was delegating a small amount of SP, and I just get some small daily dust now as a result.
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I really like how you are telling people that this is a scam what do you think is this?
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I didn’t tell anyone that MD was a “scam” I said actually that the game was fair and you weren’t gettin cheated BUT changing the rules for magic token was wrong to do to investors. What you posted above are my votes which most definitely is not a scam.....they are real votes. You should try getting some sometime. Oh you don’t post? You only re Steem to try and ride the backs of others? NothIng contribution at all to this blockchain???? Lol.....nice try troll, maybe you should cash in you 8 bucks in Steem Power and buy a hamburger because you suck as an “original content “ blogger.
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I see the gown is starting to start with blockchain games. Reading actizations about moonstem I have doubted games. They change the rules because the rules are inconvenient for the home.
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