The Fate and Future of Bitcoin: The Bankster’s Battle for Control

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Jeff is interviewed by Vin Armani, topics include: the changing crypto space, globalist influence of Bitcoin, high Bitcoin fees, Bitcoin Cash, paid shilling and 'sock puppetry' to influence Bitcoin, suspicion over efforts trying to move bitcoin away from currency and towards 'digital gold', maybe Bitcoin core is the fork, people moving to Bitcoin Cash, what makes Anarchapulco so good and so different, massive growth in the liberty movement, Anarchapulco 2018, Ron Paul to speak this year!

Original interview from The Vin Armani Show website: http://vinarmani.com/the-vin-armani-show-1118-jeff-berwick-the-dollar-vigilante-anarchast-and-anarchapulco-2018/
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Yes, I think the bank can control bitcoin in the future. Just look at the increasing of ripple!

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Too many people are confusing “ownership of bitcoin” with “control of bitcoin”. I can assure you that it absolutely does not matter if big banks scoop up mass quantities of BTC. The worst they can do with massive BTC quantities is manipulate the price in the short term. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to scare you.

If you’re holding cryptocurrency for the long term, the short term price should not matter to you. In fact, let the big banks tank the price, that’ll allow you to scoop up more. The more the banks try to tank bitcoin, the more they will transfer their wealth to you and me and anyone else with the balls to buy low.

BTC has already brought significant wealth back to the people, but not nearly enough. The more people rid themselves of their fiat, the less the banks will have control. It really is quite that simple. Because even if banks have tons of bitcoin, the key fact is they don’t control the currency itself. It’s still decentralized. It’s still private (or can be more private in the future).

We have the crypto tech to send and receive payments to each other cheaply. What we truly need are finite, deflationary, decentralized stores of value, where transactions to and from are private (and more rare), and where fees matter less, because that service is vital. Think of these as interest-accruing savings accounts, while your spending money stays in more fast, cheap, and liquid cryptocurrencies. These currencies WILL work together in the future. There will be no singular winner, no end all be all. Because the market will demand efficiency and competition.

Stop looking at bitcoin as just a peer-to-peer payment system. Those are a dime a dozen. Bitcoin, and some other competitors (MONERO!!), can act as havens from big banks. Back in the day, everyone in the crypto game inherently knew this. We were a bunch of libertarians who knew the evils of modern banking and knew what currency is and what it isn’t. We invented the term “HODL”.

Now, there’s a ton of fresh fish in the game that don’t understand these concepts, and think that crypto needs to fit in nicely with the status quo in order to succeed.

Everyone is confused, I get it. Everyone wants to come out on top, I get it. But this is really not about that. This is about a global revolution of a broken status quo.

what about the 51 percent attack?

I’m assuming you understand that massive ownership of bitcoin does you absolutely nothing to conduct a 51% attack.

With that said, I’d encourage you to read up on the 51% attack’s feasibility, and what such an attack could even accomplish if successfully implemented. Here’s a good start:

https://learncryptography.com/cryptocurrency/51-attack

point well made!

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The US has just sold a good lot of BTC , BtC that came from crime money , here is the article : https://www.coindesk.com/us-government-to-sell-off-10-million-in-seized-bitcoin-and-bitcoin-cash/
As for banks their are not done with us yet , beleive me , am in EU laws and regulations (France) and they are really itchy at the moment .....

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

They cannot regulate crypto itself. They can come after you when/if you sell into fiat (never do that). They can regulate/forbid businesses from transacting in it (kinda), but they cannot touch my coin, nor force me to sell, nor stop me from sending it to other honest citizens. Impossible.

As for the banks, there are only two things that can happen to them in the end:

(a) a critical mass of people wake up and take a stand, leading to revolution, as has happened all throughout world history. Because the elite few can never control an ‘awake’ many.

(b) The USD dies (along with the rest of the modern fiat currencies), just like every other fiat currency that has ever been created in world history. (Just go ask the Romans what brought down their impenetrable empire)

OK here is an article : https://www.gestiondefortune.com/fiscalit%C3%A9-droit/rubriques-fiscalite/5125-fiscalit%C3%A9-du-bitcoin-un-super-coup-pour-le-fisc.html Soory its in french but basically they take 45 % plus 17,2 % on your benefits , and if your bank sees money coming from BTC selling they can repport on you .... This is France .....
I agree that selling and going into fiat is not wise but look at people like me if we want to buy a house or just pay bills that you can only pay in fiat at point you have to convert !!!!

Selling seized goods. Never seen US govt selling seized cocaine or ivory. The irony of this solidifies the value of bitcoin even though on media they say it's worthless. Be warned.

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Get out of BTC and get into Bitcoincash
Buy LTC for a 10 bagger by June.

Buy fucking steem!

Yes, Buy STEEM ! It will be $14 by June
$100 by end of the year.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

bitcoin is a rich man's game now and useless as a everyday currency.
LTC seems to have a very good development team, faster conformation times and lower market value, but you should always hedge a little bit of everything is the recipe too success ;)

If you want to invest and learn Crypto's?
@haejin and/ or https://www.cryptosclass.com/

Only listen to your own advice and understand the fundamentals, And act on news! Steemit is a great community as we get first hand news use it!

Not listening to other experienced traders is irresposible.

Hedging with Silver ounces is the smartest thing to do.
$50 Silver by June, $150 by year end.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Silver is too manipulated and in the UK we have to pay 20% V.A.T and capital gains so it's really not worth it for me.

Hi Tony,
Silver will bust out this year! Futures markets are just about done brother.
paying a 20% V.A.T is nothing to where Silver will be by year end.

Why you keep saying $50 by June ?!

Because the PM's are going to break out of Manipulated Futures market.

Yes...it's very smart to buy up silver right now while it's on sale :-))

Yes indeed!

and wait till it turn into Gold. :)

LTC has essentially the same technological foundation as BTC and, as it stands, is just faster and cheaper. I think people overestimate the value gained from being first to market. Now, LTC's improved speeds are not sufficient to huge scale, but that just means they face the same issue as bitcoin, only further down the road. I have more trust in the LTC team than the BTC team. BTC seems to be more interested in staying "original flavor", than adopting to improvements in tech.

In some ways, I think there are disadvantages to being the first in the market in the tech industry. I think coins like LTC have capitalized on inefficiencies that are seen in BTC. LTC seems to be innovative and adaptive, which I think will be key to it's survival and growth as a utilized currency

Good post and you mentioned a nice way of approach .......

Forget about Buttcoin and silly Buttcoin Cash. Those are versions of MySpace and Friendster. Say hello to Verge currency--the most private and anonymous cryptocurrency ever devised! #Tor #wraithprotocol

You are so right @introvertspeaks
I own 400,000 Verge

WTF! Anyway, what color LambO you'd like to get bru? In the event XVG hit an all-time high of $50. I'm hodling this very precious coins till it reaches $100.

I don't want a LambO.
Just want to become a Billionaire to spread the wealth on my travels.
STEEEM will be over $20 by June.
Be ready to buy Silver with Crypto profits if/when it drops to $6oz.
Silver will be over a $1000oz by end of 2019

That's kool! I want to experience Antarctica and Arctic region as tourist destinations.

Be ready to buy Silver with Crypto profits if/when it drops to $6oz.
Silver will be over a $1000oz by end of 2019

What makes you conclude about this? And why Silver and not Gold instead?

I would love to go to Antartica and see the underground base and community of ET's.

Look into the Silver to Gold ratio; every 8 to 10 years there a reverse in ratio. Right now you can get 77oz of silver for 1 gold oz. When its over 85 to 1 always convert gold to silver and when its 15 to 1 convert into Gold.
But with the manipulation of PM's, Keep only Silver as Silver will go par with Gold by end of 2020. $10,000oz.

But with the manipulation of PM's, Keep only Silver as Silver will go par with Gold by end of 2020. $10,000oz.

Not sure what you mean by PM. Are you referring to Perfect Money? They don't have Silver as far as I know, only Gold. But they're adding BTC into their asset just recently including a free wallet.

I don't have much knowledge about precious metals BTW, but am willing to investigate into this to diversify my investments.

What can you recommend for me as the best place to buy Silver stock?

Get out of bitcoin, It is way too slow and will never succeed in the future.

I sold all my BTC's @ $19k but will buy some back if there is a flash crash down to $600

what site do you use to trade?

I use canadianbitcoin.com

I personally dont know what is the future of bitcoin but with the acceptance of users and countries it gained its reputation and became a reputable dogitsl currency. Its beyond control and even reached a million last month.prediction dsid it will rose hign coming months

With a BTC futures market now in place.... Control and Manipulation is CERTAIN!

wonderful

I agree

Your wise Mark.
Thought you might want this: https://www.cryptosclass.com/

up till date i still make free bitcoin to my wallet , with site people call scam nd slow to pay, maybe am just patient

Good luck!

There so much money already in Bitcoin through the years is the reason why investors still invest in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin Cash and Litecoin is definitely the better alternative to lower transfer fees.

Crypto Marketcap is just over $800 Billion.

By the end of 2018 Marketcap will be $5 Trillion

$5,000,000,000,000 Crypto Marketcap!

It doesn't matter who created or controls BTC. All that matters is that it is chipping away at the foundation of the bankster's global fiat banking system. Anything that does damage to that system or weakens it is a boon for liberty's cause. I really don't care who created BTC. All that matters is that the current control system is being destroyed.

What we need to guard against is making sure that the current control system is not replaced with a worse one. As long as the Internet exists as it does now, we do not have to worry about that outcome either. The system as we know it is imploding. What is coming will be painful, but it is needed. It is our medicine whether we like the taste of it or not.

but I am concerned about what the govts and banks are going to do... if they stop conversion to fiat and withdrawal to bank accounts, how will all this crypto money be spent?

That is exactly my warning. The government, the banks, control the conversion of crypto to fiat. They can and will shut that down.

There is a certain irony that we have to convert to fiat to use crytocurrency. This is the way it is now but as more people trade goods and services for crypto it will make fiat obsolete.

Yes, step one is done. The next step is making the current banking payment systems obsolete by walking away from them. Once some more big time merchants support full crypto exchanges without converting it to USD, things will get more and more interesting.

that makes all of this a huge huge bubble. I'm not saying it's a bubble. I'm just concerned about what the government is going to do

People will use cash to buy from a willing seller. Then finally money is no more relevant. People transfer cryptocurrency amongst each other. They don't even use cash.

My point is that most real world stuff is not yet available for sale using crypto, I am not saying this will remain as it is always but we don't exactly know when such a day will come. If regulations play spoilsport, then it will definitely become an issue in largescale crypto adoption

Upvoted to get past the bots. /bow

Lol

Bitcoin must stay independent if we want to use it in the future

Definitely this is for our future ......

Fantastic post...

Bitcoin is meant to be uncontrollable and should be for the common people... sadly, it is now within the claws of the moneyed and major corporations. Maybe it is time to move on, EOS perhaps?

EOS is not meant for daily payment transaction--not a typical cryptocurrency. It is not designed with privacy in mind, though it is soon to be powerful for Smart Contract purposes.

If you're looking for a cryptocurrency for every day utility and is fully untraceable, look no further than Verge currency--it's very cheap at the moment yet it is so powerful. Buy now or cry later!

Yes EOS for smart contract purposes and with that they can build a platform for buying much like OMG being built around ETH. And if EOS can resolve the issue of scalability then it will got to the moon!
Anyway, thanks for sharing Verge, I've been hearing a lot about it. Will take a look...

EOS, Cardano and Stellar are the future of Smart Contract. XRP and Lumens are the future of currency transfer. Verge is the future of privacy coin. Last but not the least, Steem is the future of content sharing.

What is then TRON the future of?

TRON has no future ahead of it. It is merely another pump-and-dump crap coin. Stay away from those trash unless you're in it for the short term profit.

The fight for crypto-sovereignty is on! Thanks for sharing these valuable updates.

Let's see how long BTC will continue to be trustable in the eyes of the cryptocurrency aficionados... The gatekeepers are rising making huge returns of the cream that rises to the top and miners get the biggest returns.

Maybe it is time for the world to come tot he realization that a fully decentralized P2P platform has much more to offer in terms of sovereignty? *** Bitshares*** and its family are about to spread like mycelium mushrooming all over the world, to everyone's advantage and empowerment.

Namaste :)

That's why I support Bitcoin Cash!

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I'll keep holding crypto and buying silver.

While technically any decentralized crypto currency should be difficult to take down, I think the way bitcoin is designed is opening a door for state owned attacks. You could easily squeeze out the miners if you accept to lose money on mining - a state like China could probably do that. One you control the majority of miners, you could start to undermine faith in the network.

The future of bitcoin shall be determined by the forces of supply and demand.

Turning bitcoin into digital gold? That will spell the death of that cryptocurrency! Euthereum, Monero, Steem and several others will be waiting in the wings to step in, and step in they will! Thanks once again @dollarvigilante for this great interview.

I think bit cash is way better the bitcoin

Future is under control.

Bitcoin has no future.

great post

hello, @dollarvigilante
Upvote & Re-steem

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It's pretty easy to switch from bitcoin to any other currency. If their plan is to ruin bitcoin we can just switch BTC to whatever. You can't really stop the idea or the technology. It's a beautiful thing, I just want to get a notice before the shit hits the fan. Either way I don't think there should be any panic. This technology is disruptive and so is the free market. They can't stop it, they can't silence it, they can't control it.

I wanna try it !
Any tips for beginners from more experienced players ??

There is no future in bitcoin get out of it.

I'm always waiting your useful posts thank you for sharing

Bitcoincash is the best alternative for Bitcoin.

Investing in Dogecoin too

BTC is digital gold, LTC is digital silver. Upvoted and thanks.

And XRP is for banks, ETH is for DAPPs and TRX is for Entertainment. Yes, all these cryptos will have niche markets in the future, there is room at the top for them all!

I believe Bitcoin will inevitably lose its sovereignty. In a world where power is governed by those who control money, governments and banks will inevitably establish Bitcoin under its control. If they are unsuccessful in doing so, they will find a way to ensure it does not thrive.

Instead of buying bitcoin buy Ripple(XRP). Projected rate of xrp is $10 this year.

XVG is on the Verge of creating the biggest Ripple in the history of cryptocurrency.

Have anyone heard or invested in the new cryptocurrency Ripple?

It's a little late for Ripple. Buy Stellar Lumens instead.

Yes

It´s better if we don´t know who made or who owns bitcoin.

Does anybody REALLY knows why some comments are getting so powered, while other, quite valid, on my opinion, responses remain unnoticed?? please educate me

Learn about Steam Power here:

How about learn how to spell Steem Power correctly?

How about fuck off?

How about lol?

Nice video.. I like the trx, xrp, xdn and dtc :)

wonderful work

nice and good

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To make the bitcoin userfriendly they must complete the nightning network project. Now transaction fees are killing us.

Just use Bitcoin Cash, not bankster hijacking loopholes.

At times when government is hunting you, privacy coins like Verge are the safest place to store your crypto asset.

Watched the interview... Very informative. I'm amazed at how those globalists are forming bitcoin mafias to take over that space. I'm glad you're exposing them.

8 megabit or bust!

Bitcoin is dead unless they reduce the transaction latency somehow. You can't wait for an hour or two to get your transaction confirmed. :(

nice work good joob

Right now i think ripple might surpass bitcoin in terms of growth.

BTC was the Crypto Pioneer. But more proficient coins like ETH and XRP will pass BTC this year.

Absolutely fantastic interview. I could listen to Jeff speak for hours.
Great knowledge from an amazing human being.

we are watching very closely... won't take our eyes off btc for a second.

I love anarchast mate, by the way fuck the banksters!

TANGLE ALL THE WAY 💨

miner centrality :(

thank you so much for the information.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Is that bcash record starting to sk-sk-skip again? You need a new DJ.

interesting how the obvious fud post gets upvoted. The fact that the EOS comment isn't #1 is reassuring considering this is Dan's site. :)

Thanks for great content Jeff as always! This Steemit community is awesome I am new and I thank God I found Steemit the people here are AWESOME 👏🏻

It would be interesting to hear about some of the shenanigans in this space.

can't wait to watch it :)

bitcoin the future star

Please support for comments and analysts

Interesting and useful, as always Jeff.

Bitcoin should watch out for altcoins like ethereum and litecoin

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Bitcoin is a bubble soon or later it will burst

I've got out before it implodes aand got in bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash is the true Bitcoin

INTERESTING but right now most of the cryptos are not for commoners.
KEEP POSTING AND PLEASE TAKE MY VOTE
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THANK YOU

People invested in Bitcoins to get away from all this manipulation.

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hello friend your post is very interesting talk about the digital currency in the news will be news. The future of Bitcoin, the acceptance of users and countries gained its reputation and became a dogitsl coin of great reputation.
Regards
dont forget fellow me
also give me up voto .let me help others persons

The future is showcased today, and we are in the front row! Tks @dollarvigilante

Bitcoin Trolls = CIA stooges...

Good post, I am a photographer, it passes for my blog and sees my content, I hope that it should be of your taste, you have my vote :D greetings

BTW I Think STEEM IS A Good Coin Too and also Monero . i really Like Monero

(Btc Is Going Crazy But Come on Guys every one would like to have as much possible amount Of BTC Right or Not ?

Its all about that steem and TRX guys!!! oh and dont forget EOS!!!!

We are going to see a big rise of Bitcoin in 2018.
This is for sure. But Bitcoin has lost the purpose to be a currency. The volatility is just too high. As Buffet says would you go buy in a shop something with a barrel of oil?

It is however an excellent product to speculate with and this is what most of us are doing at the moment.

Other Cryptos could become a functionning currency and I am absolutely convinced that we will see major steps into this direction in the near future.

Will it be an independent or private coin? I am not sure. But what I could imagine is that Gouverments and Central Banks bring out their own crypto money in the sense of Dollarcoin or Eurocoin. This makes sense. Since they could jump on the crypto technology train without losing control over the value of it and having volatility under control.

This does not mean that cryptos like Bitcoin and others will disappear.

They will still be around for speculation, investment purposes. For the value that community decides to attribute to them.

Especially Bitcoin, since a lot of people have a lot of money in it at the moment.

Was looking into ARK as an alternative to "offline mining", really DPOS, as NEO (binance allocated) has a high buy in price to make this work. ARK is a great coin with a lot of potential for short term growth. Recently doubled in price but check out some of their guides on how to vote for delegates. You don't need to be online, and your coins are 100% safe. Not a mining pool type scenario.
https://blog.ark.io/how-to-vote-or-un-vote-an-ark-delegate-and-how-does-it-all-work-819c5439da68

http://calculator.reconnico.com/

Its architecture will definitely give LTC and BCC a run for their money in the long run. I wont comment on BTC as upside in that is really just based on institutional money injection, which is coming very soon. Gonna start making some posts about this soon.

Also want to write something on people using Monte Carlo Brownian motion derived financial models to predict future prices. There is some really poor maths being assumed on this.

Listened to this earlier today, your words are proven. Thx for the education.

If the banks buy to much Bitcoin's, thy will be sell it at one Day to Crash the Bitcion System.

As long as the Internet exists as it does now, we do not have to worry about that outcome either. The system as we know it is imploding.Now, LTC's improved speeds are not sufficient to huge scale, but that just means they face the same issue as bitcoin, only further down the road.

Best Time to buy doge and Redd these two Companies have signed contracts with some of the online marts.

thanks for advise

I still prefer bitcash

muy buen post @dollarvigilante saludos desde Venezuela, ya te segui espero que pases por mi ultimo post y te guste mucho, saludos.

I'm control you and ur coins. Dont care im not bad :)

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Bitcoin Is really taking over the world and will be so amazing and rewarding.. Much love to @technology.. Thanks to @dtube, @jeff,@berwick,@dollars,@vigilante,@dtube,@ipfs

I think BTC will survive the next years, but at the end, BTC will end like AOL in the internet world and other big players will rules the crypto currency market.
Regarding the banks, I think they will launch their own cryptos in the near future. Ripple is only the first example.
My recommendation: Have a close look on the market and do not miss the change.

Bitcoin is intended to be wild and ought to be for the average citizens... tragically, it is presently inside the paws of the rich and real organizations.

Great read, thanks!

Bitcoin is good ,very good :D

BTC is screwed long-term. It's from 2009 people! It'll eventually go obsolete.

I love seeing you posts popup on Steemit, love the content!

My problem with bitcoin and even more with other crypto currencies is that they are not regulated and insider trading is absolutely legal :-(
Since very few people hold a huge amount of bitcoin they can manipulate the market very easy.
Until this is changed all crypto is nothing more than roulette.

thank you

Ripple rises too

some people are in for the decentralization and just for the money...

btc is future

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这个世界,金钱和权利一样掌握在少数人的手里。

Bitcoin must stay independent if we want to use it in the future

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I think that we'll end up with a nasty struggle between 2 opposing groups struggling against each other. A small privileged minority wanting to centralize and a majority was wanting to keep our technology distributed. If you think about it, it's not much different from what's going on in the world outside our sphere.

Really nice info on bitcoin fees

dear The Dollar Vigilante
You simply just rock.