MY SUGGESTIONS - HOW TO MAKE DTUBE VIRAL
6 years ago by maneki-neko (67)
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How about videos that play through to the end without stopping? That would be a good start and it's that that keeps me from spending more time on DTube. After 5 mins I'm at 1:48 of your video. I feel like I'm putting up with early adopter syndrome, but the Internet and bandwidth are mature now and it's a big ask to have users put up with this kind of performance.
I love the community aspect and the fact that it's got me into thinking of myself as a creator, but it's frustrating.
As for the longevity thing, yes, that's a big issue. I've been uploading to YouTube now and having my videos unlisted or private, just in case my hard drive crashes.
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Cam's I happened to be watching and reading the comments on @maneki-neko's video and noticed your playback issues. As a DTube moderator, I've heard virtually no complaints since their recent upgrade to CEPH backend on playback, so wondered if perhaps you had your player set to source as opposed to 480? Just a thought, but curious as we've not had a single playback complaint since that upgrade a month or so back.
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It's still happening regardless of backend upgrade. I've been putting up with it all week
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true story
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I dont like to pay for storage... but view counter would be great...
Other then that I promote D.tube everyday by uploading everyday and giving my business card, wearing my Steem shirt everywhere and talking to people about it.... but does d.tube upvote my videos?? Rarely!
Lasse
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Well that's why it could be voluntary to pay for storage - I think we have taken for granted the Youtube model where they foot the bill for any amount of insane video storage - and it's proven to be a rather shoddy business model as they have had to try to monetize their site at all opportunities, and they still dont turn that much profit.
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Not sure how that would work, anyway, we pay d.tube as they take a share of the rewards made on d.tube posts.
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No they dont take a cut anymore, they got enough SP to not need to do it anymore.
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Ok, I didn't know that, so what is the idea of voluntary payment, will to elaborate?
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Well the concept is simple, we have an option to pay maybe 1 steem per so much storage space - I dont know what this would cost to pay a server but basically i figure if you made videos everyday you could compress them before uploading and probably pay 1-5 steem per month to store a months worth of vids...
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How long are the videos on D.tube stored now??? I saw an interview with the creator but this was not clear...
In general I am just interested in D.tube from a content creators perspective... what they do with their HUGE Steem delegation, I don't really care about... anyway I don't understand the model you describe.. as long as it works I am happy.
Lasse
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They only play for about a week or so - it depends how many requests there are - more requests and it will be available longer but the more time passes they sort of get 'buried'
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Good points. Following.
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The more they adopt it the more its value will be...
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Great ideas
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I may be wrong, but if each poster had an IPFS server with their videos, then videos would not disappear.
This was a good video:
An idea that I think would work to keep videos avaliable is thumbups would store the video on the users server. IE I up vote this video, A copy is then stored on my PC and be available. If this was implemented, this video would be distributed on 185 computers.
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https://steemit.com/izlude/@izlude/preventing-your-dtube-vids-from-disappearing-aka-hosting-a-node
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Great stuff shared by you...Thank you!!! Upvote!!!
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I'm not sure that mass implementation will ever be possible for anything on the Steem network, not for a very long time at least.
The little things aren't what's keeping people from using a website like this. It's the big things.
When I try to talk to someone about joining Steemit/Dtube it sounds great at first. Vlog/Blog and make money.
Then of course they ask: but how?!?
That's when I try to explain it in the most elementary way I know how and they get squirmy and their eyes glaze over and then roll into the back of their heads.
The blockchain world is too complex for viral capacity or mass implementation. This website has to be at like a kindergarten user-level for most people to be on-board. I don't mean that as an insult, but people are lazy and don't want to have to think, and this stuff is all extremely complex.
I think these are great suggestions once this website becomes more user-friendly, but until then, no dice!
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Did you watch the video? I'm not sure we are talking about the same topics..
As far as user friendliness -
You literally have to make an account - post a profile picture - then write a blog.
What website are you referring to?
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I did watch the video. We are talking about the same thing. Inevitably you have to be able to navigate Steemit before you jump into Dtube. They are inter-connected.
I think that tech savvy people just assume that things are easy on here because they are easy for them. Even uploading your damn profile pic is stupidly complex, as you have to rip it from a url.
Honestly, that's so dumb. That one stupid step is enough to turn someone away.
And you can't exactly simplify it to "make an account, post a pic, write."
How about, pay to have an account, or wait weeks and weeks and likely forget you even signed up, get a million digit password that the average person will likely NOT save somewhere else, and then eventually lose. (Ya get to pick your passwords on most normal sites ya know) Then once you jump through the hoops of all that, figuring out the exact size that your URL-based images should be (which I still haven't quite figured out), then going to the main feed to see who to follow only to find that most of the people on there are nonsense, and being confused as to how they are making $800 a post, not realizing that they are self-voting via bots.
If, as a normal person, you make it through all of that, there is no clear info on networking, it took me months before I realized I could join a Discord and meet people that way. People likely don't have friends on here, and finding people to follow on Dtube is...difficult...especially if you aren't super into Steem yet or disinterested in crypto.
I am somewhat of a luddite and it's a God-damned miracle I have been able to learn and navigate this place.
I have fairly computer-savvy friends whose eyes still bug out when I try to explain how you get paid. Sorry friend, but it's far from simple.
My point was that it is impossible for this place to just suddenly be adapted by the masses, more specifically Dtube, because it is all so interconnected. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Steemit and its associated apps will likely be a fancy Reddit that you actually get paid to use.
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This video was about how to make Dtube videos go viral and reach a wider audience.
Also - Steemit hosts profile pics now - you dont need an outside url anymore. Also - it clearly says 'store your password - Steemit can not recover your password'. However- that was not the topic of this video.
The point of this video was how Dtube can host videos with a much higher chance of going viral on the internet - you do not currently need an account to watch Dtube - and files having longevity would make them rank much higher on google, and would be able to be shared on social media etc.
There is a waiting period for new accounts so the site doesnt get flooded with spammers/hackers overnight. The cryptographic password exists so people dont make their password 'password', as of course they would, and lose large sums of money to simple hacks. And the site does host pictures now, as I explained.
I am interested in how we an grow this site and blockchain experience into the best it can possibly be, not simply complaining about the necessary aspects of the first working social media blockchain. I agree that Steemit is not ready for mass implementation, not until hardfork 20 at least. But again - not the topic of my video.
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I get that. I watched your video.
The bottom line is though, a Dtube video going viral is useless here because you have to join in order to have any effect. It's not like YouTube where people can make money just from views. It's the interaction that makes money.
So one of my Dtube vids goes viral, that's neat. They don't even keep a viewer counter anymore, so I guess it's good if people who have never heard of Dtube, finally hear of Dtube, but ultimately, if they are interested, they would be turned off by the user difficulty of the website. That was my point.
I wasn't saying those things to bitch, and believe it or not, I understand why those things are the way they are. But most people won't. Like the average person is REALLY dumb and expects things to be REALLY easy. Blockchain in general is terribly complicated, and I don't see mass implementation on the horizon really at all.
It's not because I am negative or don't want it/don't hope for it.
Anyone who has invested time/money into Steem wants to see it grow, but I am also realistic. Most of the people I have talked to about Steemit like the idea of it, but it's just too complicated for them. Even if they made the interface more user friendly, the concept of the payouts alone are mind-boggling, and that's something that is likely not going to change.
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And I understand you are talking about Dtube, but Dtube still runs on Steem and users will likely still need to understand Steemit in order to utilize Dtube properly.
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Pretty sure we're in total agreement then. I realize that a vid going viral wont necessarily bring more profit to the user, but it would be an AMAZING improvement in my opinion to watch a video 6 months down the road and actually put Dtube on somewhat of a playing field with YT and Vimeo. Which would bring much more interest here etc.etc.
Good points.
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Hi@maneki-neko .... Nice job friends and like you you dtube
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Nice video!
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A language filter could help a lot as well.
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thanks
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Totally agree with the view count as that would be a benefit. We know DLive does this, but DTube hasn't yet. We believe this would be implemented by the end of their first year (hopefully).
As for your first point, we believe this should be an option for the creators that want their content to be stored and are willing to pay for file storage space, yet not everyone either wants to pay or maybe doesn't earn as much upvotes to make it a viable option.
How about sub-channels for your account? Organizing and sorting what type of videos you make and which categories they go in (like all these videos with be categorized as "Japan trip" and then ones from Hawaii in other sub-channel, etc.).
Btw, let us know when you're in Bangkok. Would be up for a meet-up one night! Hit us up on here or Discord - travelling-two#5596
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Can we earn money from dtube like steemit ??
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Steemit and Dtube are built on the same blockchain, so, Yes!
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Great suggestion these are the problems which was s hindring the success of steemit because at the end of the maybr for storage or know people response on your video people have to go back to YouTube and other platform.
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Which software/app you're using for making thumbnails
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I use gimpshop, which is totally free for windows. Its a little wonky but it works really well!
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Good info
Posted using Partiko Android
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I would be happy to seed my own videos from my own computer, but I can't work out how to do it. Bitchute provides magnet links I can put in WebTorrent, so I'm using that.
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great insights
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Hmm amazing place to visit soon, cool man
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THANK YOU. This video gave me some info I did not have. The whole "7 days and its disappeared" thing totally...I totally missed it...things make more sense now. I also vote for the view counter.
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Cool, Following.
DTube could also sort out the uploading.
I just had my last video Crash twice and it's very frustrating.
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You know, I think Steemit had a system of visits, and Dube too, but I think that was taken away, I do not know why, but that's very useful because so many people watch your video but they do not give you a vote :'( ahh I know why they removed it ...
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Great video man! I totally agree with you. I have been making videos on YouTube for a long time. It is awesome to get people who comment on my old cooking videos. "Hey Matt, I just made your cinnamon rolls, my whole family loved it" etc. etc. etc. Imagine if we could get that kind of interaction on DTube! It would be epic.
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For Dtube to succeed it needs to have trusted progressive news sources, while killing the BS from the propaganda,lies , are lies . truth is truth.
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Interesting thought.
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That's why I do my best to upload my video to youtube as well, to make them there for ever. It was before seen how many view and it turned off, I hope it will comeback, it will be good to know how many views we have again.
The thing I'm doing to make dtube viral is making hangout videos with dtubers, if you like to participate in an interview, I will be happy to interview you as well. ☺
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Sure thing Clix!
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nice
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