"What was her name again, Hannah Chloe, she regretted that one, didn't she [...] well done diddlyroider, well done".
Timestamp: 8 minutes and onward.
At this point, with all the info that has come out to STILL name Hannah and promote this lie, it's so disgusting, and so insulting. Completely ignoring what Hannah said in her video and talk about regret, wtf?
Have I not made it clear enough what part 5 is about? You must know because you're using part 5 as clickbait. Another shitty thing to do btw.
Suggestion: Make a voice call with Dom Bower soon and get things sorted out. This conflict only benefits The Narc.
I think Dom is totally on your side, Michael, and did not mean to spread the Narc's lie. His words were not thought through. That being said I can see why you and Hannah are offended.
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I agree with this. It's an old video Michael, he probably didn't realize. Take care you all.
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I think you have missunder stood my mocking of diddlyroider and thought i was insulting hannah. she did have a relationship with harley, in the sense of she knew him, she helped him, he pestered her and forced himself on her in a way. and in this video i say "its not gone too well for diddy, single male virile ... sterile in third world countries charming young girls.... I am not saying diddlyrider should not have friends with young teen girls, but he does have a Reputation.. i cant remember what that reputation is..."
then i make the quip about hannah saying she regretted that one. regretted in that she regretted ever being one of the people that hung out with him.
if you see that as a massive insult and promoting a lie, i am sorry. and happy to make a formal appology on my channel to you if you so wish. no beef
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I understood that you were mocking diddlyroider, but the way you talked about her takes away from the seriousness of what he has done. Of course you don't know all the details, but I think you'll understand once you've seen part 5.
There have been so many videos repeating his lies saying things like, "Hannah regretted it, Hannah lied, and if a crime was committed why didn't she report it to the police?" The thing is that she actually has reported it to the Police, people just don't know that yet.
As you can see by Hannah's account here on Steemit, she doesn't even use her name anymore because of all of this. She left YT in 2016 and just wanted to be forgotten, but is still brought up, named and shamed. What is it that Hannah should regret? She hasn't done anything wrong, she was targeted by a criminal.
There was no "relationship", or "affair" as Eisel liked to call it. I know these words can mean different things, but in this context they're both inappropriate. Hannah barely knows the narc. She never "hung out with him", he has shown up at public events and filmed her like the stalking creeper he is. The only way he could get Hannah to "hang out with him" was to pretend like he needed her help to make channel art/ebook cover.
Anyway, please no apology video. Your apology here is more than enough, and we appreciate your support in general. No beef :)
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Yay! Now this is how proper adults handle conflict!, bravo!
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You are both lovely people, I'm glad you worked it out <3
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I could be wrong, but I think the 8 minutes and onwards is an old video. I don't think your unmasking series was out then. I disliked Harley, but even I was beveling his lies about Hannah back then. I don't think Dom holds them believes anymore. I think Dom just made a slight mistake.
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I think we all have to keep in mind that real people with real pain are involved. Feeling invalidated even unintentionally is extremely hurtful. Authentic and honest communication will help.
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Exactly. People think this is all entertainment and fun and have no idea what kind of hell Hannah has been through. I literally lost 15kg because I completely lost my appetite during the time, watching someone trying to destroy someone you care about and having a whole community cheering him on.
It's especially frustrating because we can't get justice through the legal system, so I've had to take matters into my own hands. I have a lot better things I'd like to spend my time on than this bs!
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I hope that's the case. It's extra disappointing being Dom, because he's one of the few "normal" guys in the vegan yt community. He's not Eisel or Charles, who are clearly pretty troubled individuals.
I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it was that people believed the lies. And how frustrating it is for me that I have to waste my time and energy on an absolute loser in life, a complete nobody. Trust me, I have far better thing to spend my time on. People like Dom naming Hannah and talking about regret is not helping, old video or not. Hannah left the platform two years ago, I think she deserves to not be brought up anymore.
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Agreed, it’s time to leave her be, and only share the best of who she is if she is ever mentioned. I do think that Dom overstepped here, but it was very good that he owned it.
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I understand because I’m personally living it right now. The amount of mental strength we need to stay calm and keep functioning is enormous.
Non Serviam!
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That’s just my opinions but I think he wasn’t making fun of Hannah even if he seems to talk about it like a joke in the video, he was sarcastic about Harley . I remember watching dombowe’s video about hannah’s Video on Harley, that was before the unmasking series and he was on Hannah’s side. So I can’t tell about this video, I do understand you feeling, after all what happened those kind of words can hurt, but you should talk in private with him, that’s looks like a misunderstood. Please ( my English is weird, sorry I’m not a native )
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yep, i was saying she regretted having a relationship with harley. i was talking the piss out of harley. sorry michael if you think i said some lies about hannah. indeed this was an old video pasted onto the end of a recent one.
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I know this has to be hard on Michael, I’m sure Dom has no idea how hard or he would have worded things differently. We are all here supporting Michael’s efforts to get justice. I’ve been duped by Harley and Charles Marlowe and I’m ashamed about that now and will do everything in my power to do my part (even if it’s just sharing videos) to get the TRUTH out there. I’m sure Dom will do the same regardless of the misunderstanding.
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I thought it was a new video so it was completely unbelievable to me that someone like Dom would still make jokes about the situation after everything that has come out.
You have to remember, even taking the piss out of the narc, the way Dom spoke about Hannah, he's still buying into the narc's story. This is exactly what he wants. I promise you, you'll be shocked to learn how much he has twisted the facts to make his story believable.
These people are master manipulators, I wanted to believe Eisel too even though I had a bad feeling about him, it was easy to think nobody liked him simply because he opposed the cult mentality in the community. But this is the exact same tactic the narc use to manipulate people, claiming that he's disliked because he's so "real" and "transparent" when the reality is that he is the most fake person around.
Everything about these people is fake. After Eisel exposed himself I've really started to question his background. All this education he supposedly have doesn't really add up with where he is in life. All we have is his words for it and a CV he has written, we haven't actually seen any hard evidence of anything. And his stories about all these professors supposedly being so amazed by his intellect, haha, right.
Anyway, it's going to be good to debunk all the lies, of course a bunch of new lies will be made up after, but this time the narc won't have the credibility he used to so it won't matter.
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Anyone who thinks qualifications and intellect are the same thing has clearly missed something. As far as I can see Eisel speaks---really--slowly while talking rubbish and a small number of people think they've got the next Einstein on their screens. It's not so much a mystery that he does it but it's genuinely scary that anyone can listen to him and come away with the impression that he's an intellectual. He's a pretentious, conceited git. But again YT seemed to become a place where people support rubbish for reasons that are beyond me.
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He's right about one thing though, stupidity is real.
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